Sadly the agenda will continue to be pushed until we’re all like Detroit. Strictest gun rules, no one can have them but those obtained illegally, THEN we’ll be safe. Follow that by no jobs and the political correctness crowd going full steam, that’s a trifecta of pain for average America.[/quote]
What makes you think you can’t own a gun or even concealed carry in Detroit? Michigan actually has pretty middle of the road gun laws, being a shall issue state. Shall issue meaning you have the right to a licensed pistol unless proven otherwise.
[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
“You are convinced that, and aint nothing I say, nothing I preach, nothing I do, is going to convince you that George Zimmerman is not guilty. But youre wrong, and the only reason you think this way is because youre black.”
^Wow, that’s quite a clip. I’m curious how his congregation reacted to being addressed in such a manner, being told that they can’t see beyond the race issues because they’re full of hate.
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Not sure maybe you guys should go to his crooked ass church and make some donations so he can keep linen his pockets. Maybe help buy him a nice new cadilac [/quote]
lol, yes, yes, I’ll do just that. Thanks for the wonderful suggestion.
You realize I hope that there is actually a very large contingent of black Americans out there who full on despise self proclaimed “leaders” like Sharpton and Jackson who continually take advantage of people’s deep rooted fears and actually reinforce poor race relations in this country (All while living insanely lavish lifestyles on the dime of their congregations)?
Is it really so odd to you (thus seeing this particular reverend in a negative, “crooked” as you put it, light) that a black man can view the court case with a non-racially filtered sense of objectivity?
Also since I have been gone for a bit and dont want to dig, curious, has anyone brought up the Roderick Scott case from 09 that has come back to light? Curious to how some of those on here who keep using the ‘if the shoe was on the other foot’ defense with the racial swap want to explain that case and it’s lack of media attention.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Maybe because Europeans created a contradictory racist system that systemically discriminates against those of colour?[/quote]
LOL. Just lol. You need to spend some serious time reading about HUMAN history dude.
If you want to delude yourself into believing that a) Europeans created racism or that b) it has only been “those of colour” that have been discriminated against, you are free to remain in the dark as to the truth. That said, before spouting off non-sense you might what to read a bit more.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Also racism is so instilled in the train of thought in alot of American’s it seems natural where as it is definiteley learned . [/quote]
No shit. You had generations of evil men that had to justify why their means of economic production (slaves) should stay just as they were, and the government should continue to deny them their basic human rights. SO these people instilled an idea that slaves were less than human, therefore they had no human rights. (You’ll see similar justification for immoral acts throughout history and even today when talk about abortion.) Many of the different civilations throughout history that took slaves had the same perspective, whether it be religious views, skin color, whatever. They justified their immoral acts by removing “personhood” from the victims.
After generations of this, it takes time, and more generations to eliminate that. Just like it is going to take generations for Jim Crow sections of America to recover from the piss poor schools and social structure.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Also having white privilege works into our favour because theres been many times when police officers will let you off with warnings instead of charging you because you are lighter skinned.[/quote]
Prove this with any sort of factual information or stop with this.
I’ve seen enough white people get busted, searched illegally (myself included), pulled over, and hassled by police to know this is utter bullshit.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
A good point raised by many black scholars is why do they not portray middle class black families on tv. They mostly show rappers or ball player’s when their are more middle class black families then ball players. [/quote]
I grew up watching this:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
has anyone brought up the Roderick Scott case from 09 that has come back to light? [/quote]
Pokes a couple holes in the “if Zimmerman was black he would have been found guilty” lines that have been posted here…
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Also having white privilege works into our favour because theres been many times when police officers will let you off with warnings instead of charging you because you are lighter skinned.[/quote]
Prove this with any sort of factual information or stop with this.
I’ve seen enough white people get busted, searched illegally (myself included), pulled over, and hassled by police to know this is utter bullshit.[/quote]
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Maybe because Europeans created a contradictory racist system that systemically discriminates against those of colour?[/quote]
LOL. Just lol. You need to spend some serious time reading about HUMAN history dude.
If you want to delude yourself into believing that a) Europeans created racism or that b) it has only been “those of colour” that have been discriminated against, you are free to remain in the dark as to the truth. That said, before spouting off non-sense you might what to read a bit more.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Also racism is so instilled in the train of thought in alot of American’s it seems natural where as it is definiteley learned . [/quote]
No shit. You had generations of evil men that had to justify why their means of economic production (slaves) should stay just as they were, and the government should continue to deny them their basic human rights. SO these people instilled an idea that slaves were less than human, therefore they had no human rights. (You’ll see similar justification for immoral acts throughout history and even today when talk about abortion.) Many of the different civilations throughout history that took slaves had the same perspective, whether it be religious views, skin color, whatever. They justified their immoral acts by removing “personhood” from the victims.
After generations of this, it takes time, and more generations to eliminate that. Just like it is going to take generations for Jim Crow sections of America to recover from the piss poor schools and social structure.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Also having white privilege works into our favour because theres been many times when police officers will let you off with warnings instead of charging you because you are lighter skinned.[/quote]
Prove this with any sort of factual information or stop with this.
I’ve seen enough white people get busted, searched illegally (myself included), pulled over, and hassled by police to know this is utter bullshit.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
A good point raised by many black scholars is why do they not portray middle class black families on tv. They mostly show rappers or ball player’s when their are more middle class black families then ball players. [/quote]
I grew up watching this:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
has anyone brought up the Roderick Scott case from 09 that has come back to light? [/quote]
Pokes a couple holes in the “if Zimmerman was black he would have been found guilty” lines that have been posted here…[/quote]
You left Living Single and Sister Sister off that list Beans.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Also having white privilege works into our favour because theres been many times when police officers will let you off with warnings instead of charging you because you are lighter skinned.[/quote]
Prove this with any sort of factual information or stop with this.
I’ve seen enough white people get busted, searched illegally (myself included), pulled over, and hassled by police to know this is utter bullshit.[/quote]
Do you believe in the concept of white privilege?
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No.
I could accept the argument we have a caste system that gives “privilege” (I prefer the term advantage) to certain upper class individuals. Upper class individuals tend to be white, which is a function of non-white folks (mainly black people) being systematically wronged by our government for so many generations.
However, given enough time, and assuming people actually want to move forward instead on living in the past, the racial mix of the “privileged caste” could be even, and the privilege would still be there.
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Also having white privilege works into our favour because theres been many times when police officers will let you off with warnings instead of charging you because you are lighter skinned.[/quote]
Prove this with any sort of factual information or stop with this.
I’ve seen enough white people get busted, searched illegally (myself included), pulled over, and hassled by police to know this is utter bullshit.[/quote]
Do you believe in the concept of white privilege?
[/quote]
No.
I could accept the argument we have a caste system that gives “privilege” (I prefer the term advantage) to certain upper class individuals. Upper class individuals tend to be white, which is a function of non-white folks (mainly black people) being systematically wronged by our government for so many generations.
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That is the definition of “white privilege”.
I like discussing things with you because you can carry on a discussion without having to fall back on just personal attacks if someone questions what you think.
This society is governed by the majority. White privilege simply acknowledges that brings certain social advantages to that majority…like NOT being called a thug simply because how you dress is a trend usually seen in mostly people of your own race and nothing more.
You asked how I knew that blacks committed so many more crimes than whites. No one is arguing that crime statistics reflect every crime ever committed, so I fully agree that they do not represent the actual amount of crimes being committed. [/quote]
Then that questions why I was attacked by the usual posters for saying this…but as we can see, that seems to be the trend on this board lately.
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However, how do you know that the actual vs. the perceived is significantly different, huh?[/quote]
I would lend that towards common sense. There is no possible way that ALL crime that occurs is even reported let alone prosecuted…not to mention the fact that NON VIOLENT CRIMES are still crimes and much less likely to be reported.
Given that, we know without a doubt that the number of crimes reported or prosecuted represent only a PERCENTAGE of all crimes ever committed.
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You demand me to provide answers yet you haven’t answered one thing I’ve asked in anything close to a satisfactory manner. How do we know that crime statistics are only scratching the surface? How do we know that the reality is that even MORE blacks are committing crimes than statistics reflect?[/quote]
It doesn’t matter if they “scratch the surface” or not. The point is, not all crimes are even reported so there is no way you can say that “blacks commit most crimes”.
Blacks are profiled for crimes more which will increase those arrested and prosecuted in itself alone.
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Come on Professor X. You’re not engaged in an argument with some half-witted newcomer to this site who doesn’t know how you operate anymore. I’m going to continue to tear your arguments and your logic apart no matter what direction you try to spin this thing off on and no matter how you try to deflect things away from the actual issue at hand with all this bullshit sophistry of yours. Answer the goddamned questions put forth or get the fuck out.[/quote]
You aren’t tearing down my arguments though.
You are just cussing poorly on a site where there seems to be a group of people here to ONLY fuss with me personally instead of allow an actual discussion between us.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue someone who was trapped in an overturned truck, police said today.
What a moron. [/quote]
The people that have vilified Zimmerman?
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No Zimmerman.
How did trying to help, pan out the last time?[/quote]
How sad.
Zimmerman rescues a family from a wrecked truck and people still attack him.