Trayvon Martin Pt. 3.. The Legacy Pt. 2

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Where was the uproar?

http://www.wbaltv.com/Police-Bowel-Accident-Leads-To-Fatal-Beating/-/9380084/11031708/-/vlaj0d/-/index.html

[/quote]

What is your point?
Did the police let him go?
Is there a large segment of your population who say the guy is innocent and was just trying to discipline the child?

Are there tons of idiots asking the guys prosecutor why he isn’t trying to prosecute another case instead of that one?

Do you feel justice won’t be served?[/quote]

My point is, like the 6 youths killed THIS MONTH in Baltimore, this has nothing to do with justics or betterment at all.

People are screaming for change in the TM case yet a 21 year old father beats his 5 year old to death and no one says a word.

6 people under the age of 25 are killed THIS MONTH in ONE city and no one says a word.

Am I the only one seeing the issue here?

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

[/quote]

No it wouldn’t be a national controversy. As said all the time, and as derailed by every closet racist, the crime isn’t the issue. The response and reaction is. Plenty of hispanics would’ve either said that’s fucked up jorge should go to jail, or hell yeah he killed that ni**s. Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed then looking around like why are you calling us racist.
[/quote]

Justifying? Justifying how our justice system works? [/quote]
Is there a need for a question mark? I clearly stated what they are justifying, then you make up your own justification. Again proving the point of racism because your trying to rationalize what I said by totally avoiding the issue. I’ll say it again.

“Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed”

Last I remember you weren’t on the jury. The same people screaming “OJ IS GUILTY!!!” are all of a sudden screaming “I trust the court systems got it right this time.” What all of a sudden they(you) are incapable of an opinion? All of a sudden you can’t speculate? I’ve heard two of Aaron Hernandez teammates siding with him, and they were heavily ridiculed. He hasn’t even went to court yet. Maybe he should rename himself Aaron Zimmerman.

That’s all it took was the reasonable possibility that Martin did that. Obviously we can’t be sure as there is not enough evidence, so if the court system is supposed to work then it played out like it is supposed to.

Someone told me while arguing about this in a barbershop, “I wish Martin was afforded the same rights as Zimmerman.”

All I could muster was, “You mean mobs of people wanting to lynch him, his family, friends, lawyers, &c. based off the perceived color of his skin?”[/quote]

No what they meant was the right to walk home without getting killed, but that went over your head right?

I guess all the mobs wanting to lynch him is worse then one guy actually killing him.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

[/quote]

No it wouldn’t be a national controversy. As said all the time, and as derailed by every closet racist, the crime isn’t the issue. The response and reaction is. Plenty of hispanics would’ve either said that’s fucked up jorge should go to jail, or hell yeah he killed that ni**s. Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed then looking around like why are you calling us racist.
[/quote]

Justifying? Justifying how our justice system works? [/quote]
Is there a need for a question mark? I clearly stated what they are justifying, then you make up your own justification. Again proving the point of racism because your trying to rationalize what I said by totally avoiding the issue. I’ll say it again.

“Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed”

Last I remember you weren’t on the jury. The same people screaming “OJ IS GUILTY!!!” are all of a sudden screaming “I trust the court systems got it right this time.” What all of a sudden they(you) are incapable of an opinion? All of a sudden you can’t speculate? I’ve heard two of Aaron Hernandez teammates siding with him, and they were heavily ridiculed. He hasn’t even went to court yet. Maybe he should rename himself Aaron Zimmerman.

That’s all it took was the reasonable possibility that Martin did that. Obviously we can’t be sure as there is not enough evidence, so if the court system is supposed to work then it played out like it is supposed to.

Someone told me while arguing about this in a barbershop, “I wish Martin was afforded the same rights as Zimmerman.”

All I could muster was, “You mean mobs of people wanting to lynch him, his family, friends, lawyers, &c. based off the perceived color of his skin?”[/quote]

No what they meant was the right to walk home without getting killed, but that went over your head right?

I guess all the mobs wanting to lynch him is worse then one guy actually killing him.

[/quote]

So, you have absolutely no idea about any facts of the case other than race huh?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

Black people cannot enslave another group of people. THAT’S POWER. [/quote]

They sure can.

Blacks have been enslaving other ethnicities of black for centuries in Africa.

Where you get this silly notion that blacks are incapable of performing incredible acts of evil as a group towards other groups I will never understand.
[/quote]

I bet DN honestly believes millions of slaves were acquired solely by white men just sailing over on their boats and snatching 'em from their beds, one at a time.

Not like Africans were enslaving and trading other Africans to whites for gun powder and B-stock armaments by the hundreds of thousands… No they’re incapable of such things.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

[/quote]

No it wouldn’t be a national controversy. As said all the time, and as derailed by every closet racist, the crime isn’t the issue. The response and reaction is. Plenty of hispanics would’ve either said that’s fucked up jorge should go to jail, or hell yeah he killed that ni**s. Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed then looking around like why are you calling us racist.
[/quote]

Justifying? Justifying how our justice system works? [/quote]
Is there a need for a question mark? I clearly stated what they are justifying, then you make up your own justification. Again proving the point of racism because your trying to rationalize what I said by totally avoiding the issue. I’ll say it again.

“Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed”

Last I remember you weren’t on the jury. The same people screaming “OJ IS GUILTY!!!” are all of a sudden screaming “I trust the court systems got it right this time.” What all of a sudden they(you) are incapable of an opinion? All of a sudden you can’t speculate? I’ve heard two of Aaron Hernandez teammates siding with him, and they were heavily ridiculed. He hasn’t even went to court yet. Maybe he should rename himself Aaron Zimmerman.

That’s all it took was the reasonable possibility that Martin did that. Obviously we can’t be sure as there is not enough evidence, so if the court system is supposed to work then it played out like it is supposed to.

Someone told me while arguing about this in a barbershop, “I wish Martin was afforded the same rights as Zimmerman.”

All I could muster was, “You mean mobs of people wanting to lynch him, his family, friends, lawyers, &c. based off the perceived color of his skin?”[/quote]

No what they meant was the right to walk home without getting killed, but that went over your head right?

I guess all the mobs wanting to lynch him is worse then one guy actually killing him.

[/quote]

So, you have absolutely no idea about any facts of the case other than race huh?[/quote]

Obviously not, otherwise he could understand how millions of white people can justify a death with self-defense.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Where was the uproar?

http://www.wbaltv.com/Police-Bowel-Accident-Leads-To-Fatal-Beating/-/9380084/11031708/-/vlaj0d/-/index.html

[/quote]

What is your point?
Did the police let him go?
Is there a large segment of your population who say the guy is innocent and was just trying to discipline the child?

Are there tons of idiots asking the guys prosecutor why he isn’t trying to prosecute another case instead of that one?

Do you feel justice won’t be served?[/quote]

My point is, like the 6 youths killed THIS MONTH in Baltimore, this has nothing to do with justics or betterment at all.

People are screaming for change in the TM case yet a 21 year old father beats his 5 year old to death and no one says a word.

6 people under the age of 25 are killed THIS MONTH in ONE city and no one says a word.

Am I the only one seeing the issue here? [/quote]

You still haven’t answered the question. Let me rephrase it in TM terms for you…

Do you want them to march in front of the court house steps of that Father and ask them to change the verdict on his court case?

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Courts have convicted with significantly less.[/quote]

And released with significantly more. Interestingly, both the ones that come to mind occurred in Florida, Casey Anthony and O.J. Simpson.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Dark Ninjaa wrote:

Black people cannot enslave another group of people. THAT’S POWER. [/quote]

They sure can.

Blacks have been enslaving other ethnicities of black for centuries in Africa.

Where you get this silly notion that blacks are incapable of performing incredible acts of evil as a group towards other groups I will never understand.
[/quote]

I bet DN honestly believes millions of slaves were acquired solely by white men just sailing over on their boats and snatching 'em from their beds, one at a time.

Not like Africans were enslaving and trading other Africans to whites for gun powder and B-stock armaments by the hundreds of thousands… No they’re incapable of such things.[/quote]

No need to go that far back.

Blacks are still enslaving each other to this present day.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

[/quote]

No it wouldn’t be a national controversy. As said all the time, and as derailed by every closet racist, the crime isn’t the issue. The response and reaction is. Plenty of hispanics would’ve either said that’s fucked up jorge should go to jail, or hell yeah he killed that ni**s. Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed then looking around like why are you calling us racist.
[/quote]

Justifying? Justifying how our justice system works? [/quote]
Is there a need for a question mark? I clearly stated what they are justifying, then you make up your own justification. Again proving the point of racism because your trying to rationalize what I said by totally avoiding the issue. I’ll say it again.

“Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed”

Last I remember you weren’t on the jury. The same people screaming “OJ IS GUILTY!!!” are all of a sudden screaming “I trust the court systems got it right this time.” What all of a sudden they(you) are incapable of an opinion? All of a sudden you can’t speculate? I’ve heard two of Aaron Hernandez teammates siding with him, and they were heavily ridiculed. He hasn’t even went to court yet. Maybe he should rename himself Aaron Zimmerman.

That’s all it took was the reasonable possibility that Martin did that. Obviously we can’t be sure as there is not enough evidence, so if the court system is supposed to work then it played out like it is supposed to.

Someone told me while arguing about this in a barbershop, “I wish Martin was afforded the same rights as Zimmerman.”

All I could muster was, “You mean mobs of people wanting to lynch him, his family, friends, lawyers, &c. based off the perceived color of his skin?”[/quote]

No what they meant was the right to walk home without getting killed, but that went over your head right?

I guess all the mobs wanting to lynch him is worse then one guy actually killing him.

[/quote]

So, you have absolutely no idea about any facts of the case other than race huh?[/quote]

Obviously not, otherwise he could understand how millions of white people can justify a death with self-defense.
[/quote]

I don’t understand how you guys can be so level headed with such levels of stupidity and ignorance being displayed in this thread.

I salute you.

And when Zimmerman releases a fucking book entitled “How I would have shot that nigger.” I may start screaming he is indeed a racist murderer and that he is guilty like OJ.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

[/quote]

No it wouldn’t be a national controversy. As said all the time, and as derailed by every closet racist, the crime isn’t the issue. The response and reaction is. Plenty of hispanics would’ve either said that’s fucked up jorge should go to jail, or hell yeah he killed that ni**s. Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed then looking around like why are you calling us racist.
[/quote]

Justifying? Justifying how our justice system works? [/quote]
Is there a need for a question mark? I clearly stated what they are justifying, then you make up your own justification. Again proving the point of racism because your trying to rationalize what I said by totally avoiding the issue. I’ll say it again.

“Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed”

Last I remember you weren’t on the jury. The same people screaming “OJ IS GUILTY!!!” are all of a sudden screaming “I trust the court systems got it right this time.” What all of a sudden they(you) are incapable of an opinion? All of a sudden you can’t speculate? I’ve heard two of Aaron Hernandez teammates siding with him, and they were heavily ridiculed. He hasn’t even went to court yet. Maybe he should rename himself Aaron Zimmerman.

That’s all it took was the reasonable possibility that Martin did that. Obviously we can’t be sure as there is not enough evidence, so if the court system is supposed to work then it played out like it is supposed to.

Someone told me while arguing about this in a barbershop, “I wish Martin was afforded the same rights as Zimmerman.”

All I could muster was, “You mean mobs of people wanting to lynch him, his family, friends, lawyers, &c. based off the perceived color of his skin?”[/quote]

No what they meant was the right to walk home without getting killed, but that went over your head right?

I guess all the mobs wanting to lynch him is worse then one guy actually killing him.

[/quote]

So, you have absolutely no idea about any facts of the case other than race huh?[/quote]

Let me guess

Zimmerman had just finished saving some 6 year old kids from falling off a swing.
Zimmerman was gleefully laughing as he drove around the shooting kids with a watergun.
Zimmerman saw a young teenager and thought he could save him ala Dangerous Minds
Zimmerman screamed out the car hey “Want to learn some math?”

Trayvon was a thug that took thug pictures.
Trayvon had a picture with a gun, so he was the one with the gun that night
Trayvon saw him driving and told him “Get the fuck out the car I want to fuck you up”
Trayvon being the super athlete caught up to his car after 2 blocks pointed the concrete at him

Everything after that is just speculation. You’re right race had nothing to do with it the kid deserved to die

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

Black people cannot enslave another group of people. THAT’S POWER. [/quote]

They sure can.

Blacks have been enslaving other ethnicities of black for centuries in Africa.

Where you get this silly notion that blacks are incapable of performing incredible acts of evil as a group towards other groups I will never understand.
[/quote]

I bet DN honestly believes millions of slaves were acquired solely by white men just sailing over on their boats and snatching 'em from their beds, one at a time.

Not like Africans were enslaving and trading other Africans to whites for gun powder and B-stock armaments by the hundreds of thousands… No they’re incapable of such things.[/quote]

There was only one white major slave trader in Africa. The rest were black. At the time of the Civil War there were 137 black slave owners in the US. In Niger, the practice of slavery was not outlawed until 2003, however a recent study found that 8% of the population are still slaves.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

[/quote]

No it wouldn’t be a national controversy. As said all the time, and as derailed by every closet racist, the crime isn’t the issue. The response and reaction is. Plenty of hispanics would’ve either said that’s fucked up jorge should go to jail, or hell yeah he killed that ni**s. Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed then looking around like why are you calling us racist.
[/quote]

Justifying? Justifying how our justice system works? [/quote]
Is there a need for a question mark? I clearly stated what they are justifying, then you make up your own justification. Again proving the point of racism because your trying to rationalize what I said by totally avoiding the issue. I’ll say it again.

“Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed”

Last I remember you weren’t on the jury. The same people screaming “OJ IS GUILTY!!!” are all of a sudden screaming “I trust the court systems got it right this time.” What all of a sudden they(you) are incapable of an opinion? All of a sudden you can’t speculate? I’ve heard two of Aaron Hernandez teammates siding with him, and they were heavily ridiculed. He hasn’t even went to court yet. Maybe he should rename himself Aaron Zimmerman.

That’s all it took was the reasonable possibility that Martin did that. Obviously we can’t be sure as there is not enough evidence, so if the court system is supposed to work then it played out like it is supposed to.

Someone told me while arguing about this in a barbershop, “I wish Martin was afforded the same rights as Zimmerman.”

All I could muster was, “You mean mobs of people wanting to lynch him, his family, friends, lawyers, &c. based off the perceived color of his skin?”[/quote]

No what they meant was the right to walk home without getting killed, but that went over your head right?

I guess all the mobs wanting to lynch him is worse then one guy actually killing him.

[/quote]

So, you have absolutely no idea about any facts of the case other than race huh?[/quote]

Let me guess

[/quote]

You don’t have to guess…this lays it all out chronologically.

http://www.dlas.org/...merman-verdict/

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

[/quote]

No it wouldn’t be a national controversy. As said all the time, and as derailed by every closet racist, the crime isn’t the issue. The response and reaction is. Plenty of hispanics would’ve either said that’s fucked up jorge should go to jail, or hell yeah he killed that ni**s. Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed then looking around like why are you calling us racist.
[/quote]

Justifying? Justifying how our justice system works? [/quote]
Is there a need for a question mark? I clearly stated what they are justifying, then you make up your own justification. Again proving the point of racism because your trying to rationalize what I said by totally avoiding the issue. I’ll say it again.

“Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed”

Last I remember you weren’t on the jury. The same people screaming “OJ IS GUILTY!!!” are all of a sudden screaming “I trust the court systems got it right this time.” What all of a sudden they(you) are incapable of an opinion? All of a sudden you can’t speculate? I’ve heard two of Aaron Hernandez teammates siding with him, and they were heavily ridiculed. He hasn’t even went to court yet. Maybe he should rename himself Aaron Zimmerman.

That’s all it took was the reasonable possibility that Martin did that. Obviously we can’t be sure as there is not enough evidence, so if the court system is supposed to work then it played out like it is supposed to.

Someone told me while arguing about this in a barbershop, “I wish Martin was afforded the same rights as Zimmerman.”

All I could muster was, “You mean mobs of people wanting to lynch him, his family, friends, lawyers, &c. based off the perceived color of his skin?”[/quote]

No what they meant was the right to walk home without getting killed, but that went over your head right?

I guess all the mobs wanting to lynch him is worse then one guy actually killing him.

[/quote]

So, you have absolutely no idea about any facts of the case other than race huh?[/quote]

Let me guess

Zimmerman had just finished saving some 6 year old kids from falling off a swing.
Zimmerman was gleefully laughing as he drove around the shooting kids with a watergun.
Zimmerman saw a young teenager and thought he could save him ala Dangerous Minds
Zimmerman screamed out the car hey “Want to learn some math?”

Trayvon was a thug that took thug pictures.
Trayvon had a picture with a gun, so he was the one with the gun that night
Trayvon saw him driving and told him “Get the fuck out the car I want to fuck you up”
Trayvon being the super athlete caught up to his car after 2 blocks pointed the concrete at him

Everything after that is just speculation. You’re right race had nothing to do with it the kid deserved to die [/quote]

Lol. Golden. You are too much man. Too much.

Sounds like you have a thing for teenage boys.

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Ill sum up this whole thread:

Person 1- “blah blah blah tangible facts with accompanying documentation as proof blah”
Person 2- “blah blah blah emotional response with no actual supporting proof blah blah”
Person 1- “blah blah blah more statistically backed numbers to recite person 1’s claims blah”
Person 2- “blah ‘culture’ blah blah ‘you wouldn’t understand cause you’re not black’ blah blah”
Person 1- “blah blah more facts with accompanying data blah blah”
Person 2- “blah blah OUTRAGE blah blah puts fingers in ears, holds breath and stomps around blah”

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Where was the uproar?

http://www.wbaltv.com/Police-Bowel-Accident-Leads-To-Fatal-Beating/-/9380084/11031708/-/vlaj0d/-/index.html

[/quote]

What is your point?
Did the police let him go?
Is there a large segment of your population who say the guy is innocent and was just trying to discipline the child?

Are there tons of idiots asking the guys prosecutor why he isn’t trying to prosecute another case instead of that one?

Do you feel justice won’t be served?[/quote]

My point is, like the 6 youths killed THIS MONTH in Baltimore, this has nothing to do with justics or betterment at all.

People are screaming for change in the TM case yet a 21 year old father beats his 5 year old to death and no one says a word.

6 people under the age of 25 are killed THIS MONTH in ONE city and no one says a word.

Am I the only one seeing the issue here? [/quote]

You still haven’t answered the question. Let me rephrase it in TM terms for you…

Do you want them to march in front of the court house steps of that Father and ask them to change the verdict on his court case?
[/quote]

No.

Now if you go back and read my posts beginning with the killings in Charm City you will get the context you are missing.

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Not everything is about Trayvon Martin for crying out loud.

100+ people have been killed in Baltimore this year, 6 of them being under the age of 25 and killed within the last 30 days.

Why aren’t people marching, tweeting, or otherwise screaming about this? Why does no one say a word when a 21 year old father beats his daughter to death?

Because that’s business as usual I guess.

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You know black people

Make broad generalizations about people based on their skin color,
Not racist.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
You know black people

Make broad generalizations about people based on their skin color,
Not racist.[/quote]

Only racist if you are white…remember, George Bush hates black people.

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The only minority juror in the TM case is talking on nightline tonight on abc

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Speaking of names, if this would have first been reported locally as “Jorge Mesa” claims self defense in shooting of Trayvon Martin, would it really have become a huge national story? Would it really have been grown into a movement?

Here’s my reasoning behind asking this hypothetical. In the earliest accounts it’s an supposedly a white guy kills black controversy. George Zimmerman. Gets the national inertia going before people are familiar with Zimmerman, his face, and heritage. His father being white, and his mother the Peruvian immigrant. Only later did “white,” when it became difficult to maintain as people began to recognize photos, become “white-Hispanic.” Instead of multi-racial Hispanic…His mother having, I don’t know, some mestizo/Afro-Peruvian heritage. Probably not exact, but these terms seem to change depending on who you are and where you are.

But, as a hypothetical, had his father been the Peruvian immigrant, and his mother white, he could’ve realistically been Jorge Mesa. In fact, that is his uncle’s name (mother’s side).

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No it wouldn’t be a national controversy. As said all the time, and as derailed by every closet racist, the crime isn’t the issue. The response and reaction is. Plenty of hispanics would’ve either said that’s fucked up jorge should go to jail, or hell yeah he killed that ni**s. Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed then looking around like why are you calling us racist.
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Justifying? Justifying how our justice system works? [/quote]
Is there a need for a question mark? I clearly stated what they are justifying, then you make up your own justification. Again proving the point of racism because your trying to rationalize what I said by totally avoiding the issue. I’ll say it again.

“Instead we have a million white people JUSTIFYING, and RATIONALIZING Trayvon getting killed”

Last I remember you weren’t on the jury. The same people screaming “OJ IS GUILTY!!!” are all of a sudden screaming “I trust the court systems got it right this time.” What all of a sudden they(you) are incapable of an opinion? All of a sudden you can’t speculate? I’ve heard two of Aaron Hernandez teammates siding with him, and they were heavily ridiculed. He hasn’t even went to court yet. Maybe he should rename himself Aaron Zimmerman.

That’s all it took was the reasonable possibility that Martin did that. Obviously we can’t be sure as there is not enough evidence, so if the court system is supposed to work then it played out like it is supposed to.

Someone told me while arguing about this in a barbershop, “I wish Martin was afforded the same rights as Zimmerman.”

All I could muster was, “You mean mobs of people wanting to lynch him, his family, friends, lawyers, &c. based off the perceived color of his skin?”[/quote]

No what they meant was the right to walk home without getting killed, but that went over your head right?

I guess all the mobs wanting to lynch him is worse then one guy actually killing him.

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So, you have absolutely no idea about any facts of the case other than race huh?[/quote]

Obviously not, otherwise he could understand how millions of white people can justify a death with self-defense.
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I don’t understand how you guys can be so level headed with such levels of stupidity and ignorance being displayed in this thread.

I salute you.

And when Zimmerman releases a fucking book entitled “How I would have shot that nigger.” I may start screaming he is indeed a racist murderer and that he is guilty like OJ.
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Well if i didnt remain level headed T-Nation would just edit my post anyway.

And i LOL’d at your book title.