Trayvon Martin Pt. 3.. The Legacy Pt. 2

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Holly bejesus I had no idea DarkNinjaa was such a sizzling hot soul sista # oy-vay
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This hot sizzling sista says, ‘‘well, thank you :)’’

I dig you. It’s not every day you see a white man who ‘‘gets’’ what most don’t.
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Translation: You’re one of the “good” white people. [/quote]

Hell fucking yeah. A white person who doesn’t deny that racism still exists is definitely ‘‘good’’ in my books. Unlike most of you fuckers. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of you had accounts in Stormfront.
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I don’t think anyone is denying that it still exists. Racism will always exist on some level, however, a lot of us are saying that some here are overstating the white on black racism and choosing to completely act like black on white racism doesn’t exist.[/quote]

Interesting that you seem to think that because your perception is that racism isn’t very relevant that this stands as truth for all.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Holly bejesus I had no idea DarkNinjaa was such a sizzling hot soul sista # oy-vay
[/quote]

This hot sizzling sista says, ‘‘well, thank you :)’’

I dig you. It’s not every day you see a white man who ‘‘gets’’ what most don’t.
[/quote]

Translation: You’re one of the “good” white people. [/quote]

Hell fucking yeah. A white person who doesn’t deny that racism still exists is definitely ‘‘good’’ in my books. Unlike most of you fuckers. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of you had accounts in Stormfront.
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I don’t think anyone is denying that it still exists. Racism will always exist on some level, however, a lot of us are saying that some here are overstating the white on black racism and choosing to completely act like black on white racism doesn’t exist.[/quote]

Interesting that you seem to think that because your perception is that racism isn’t very relevant that this stands as truth for all.[/quote]

I have been threatened with violence three separate times because of my race. Have you ever encountered the same?

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Holly bejesus I had no idea DarkNinjaa was such a sizzling hot soul sista # oy-vay
[/quote]

This hot sizzling sista says, ‘‘well, thank you :)’’

I dig you. It’s not every day you see a white man who ‘‘gets’’ what most don’t.
[/quote]

Translation: You’re one of the “good” white people. [/quote]

Hell fucking yeah. A white person who doesn’t deny that racism still exists is definitely ‘‘good’’ in my books. Unlike most of you fuckers. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of you had accounts in Stormfront.
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I don’t think anyone is denying that it still exists. Racism will always exist on some level, however, a lot of us are saying that some here are overstating the white on black racism and choosing to completely act like black on white racism doesn’t exist.[/quote]

Interesting that you seem to think that because your perception is that racism isn’t very relevant that this stands as truth for all.[/quote]

I have been threatened with violence three separate times because of my race. Have you ever encountered the same?[/quote]

Yes, and worse.

Your point?

How does that change what I wrote? You are acting like because YOU ALONE don’t see racism against blacks as a significant social issue, that this stands as truth for all.

Why?

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Holly bejesus I had no idea DarkNinjaa was such a sizzling hot soul sista # oy-vay
[/quote]

This hot sizzling sista says, ‘‘well, thank you :)’’

I dig you. It’s not every day you see a white man who ‘‘gets’’ what most don’t.
[/quote]

Translation: You’re one of the “good” white people. [/quote]

Hell fucking yeah. A white person who doesn’t deny that racism still exists is definitely ‘‘good’’ in my books. Unlike most of you fuckers. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of you had accounts in Stormfront.
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Translation: Everyone else is racist.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Holly bejesus I had no idea DarkNinjaa was such a sizzling hot soul sista # oy-vay
[/quote]

This hot sizzling sista says, ‘‘well, thank you :)’’

I dig you. It’s not every day you see a white man who ‘‘gets’’ what most don’t.
[/quote]

Thnx
:wink: in many ways I do

I never said it wasn’t a significant issue. Racism in any form is a significant issue. I merely said that its prevalence is overstated from one side, and that same side has plenty of members who believe literally that black people cant be racist.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

But how much safer are these neighbourhoods for other blacks?

Given the stat provided earlier that most black murders are predominately at the hands of other blacks, how safe are these neighbourhoods for any individual regardless of race?
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They are not safe for anyone but they are worse for whites because you immediately stand out as a mark. [/quote]

Actually, like he just pointed out, if blacks are the biggest VICTIMS in that situation, saying those places are worse for whites doesn’t seem to hold with what see in reality.

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Whites in the neighborhoods I mentioned (especially at night) are profiled as people with money looking for drugs by both the cops and criminals. A white guy is going attractive more negative attention than a black guy by the local thugs. And catching someones attention in these neighborhoods is not a good thing.[/quote]

That doesn’t mean that whites would get attacked more than blacks in those same neighborhoods.

In fact, it stands to reason that the LAST THING a true criminal would want is to approach the person who attracts so much attention like you just wrote.

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Also there are people who resent whites in these neighborhoods too.[/quote]

This does not mean a white person will be attacked more than a black person in those same situations.

In fact, all evidence seems to show blacks are at the greatest risk.

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As far as the black on black crimes stats, white people stay out of these neighborhoods unless they have to go there. That is, unless you have to work there like my friend now and me 10 years ago.[/quote]

How does this show whites are more at risk of physical harm than a black person there?[/quote]

Blacks are the biggest victims solely because there are more of them there.

Of course less whites are assaulted/robbed/etc in those neighborhoods, they avoid those neighborhoods whenever necessary.

Please, use common sense for once.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I never said it wasn’t a significant issue.
Racism in any form is a significant issue. I merely said that its prevalence is overstated from one side, and that same side has plenty of members who believe literally that black people cant be racist.[/quote]

Let me make it more clear then, why do you think that because YOU ALONE think that “its prevalence is overstated from one side” that this stands as truth for all?

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
and that same side has plenty of members who believe literally that black people can’t be racist.[/quote]

Give it up bro, no matter how much truth to this there is…it will NEVER be admitted to.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

Blacks are the biggest victims solely because there are more of them there.

Of course less whites are assaulted/robbed/etc in those neighborhoods, they avoid those neighborhoods whenever necessary.

Please, use common sense for once. [/quote]

More personal attacks.

It was said that there are more places that white people can’t go because of racism than blacks…when nothing being shown represents this.

If BLACKS are attacked mostly BY BLACKS then saying whites are at more risk or there are more places whites can’t go because of racial attacks makes no sense.

Please respond without the personal attacks if you can.

Chris Rock makes it funny.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Actually, like he just pointed out, if blacks are the biggest VICTIMS in that situation, saying those places are worse for whites doesn’t seem to hold with what see in reality.

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Of course there are more black victims there. The majority of the people in that neighborhood are black and white people know not to go there.

This does not mean a white person will be attacked more than a black person in those same situations.

In fact, all evidence seems to show blacks are at the greatest risk.
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The evidence shows more blacks are victims because there aren’t any white people in this neighborhood to begin with. You don’t go where you’re not wanted.

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How does this show whites are more at risk of physical harm than a black person there?[/quote]

The same way you said you know people won’t drive through parts of the south because of the hate the locals have for blacks. You were contending that there are places where blacks don’t feel comfortable because of the resentment harbored toward them. It works both ways.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

I don’t think anyone is denying that it still exists. Racism will always exist on some level, however, a lot of us are saying that some here are overstating the white on black racism and choosing to completely act like black on white racism doesn’t exist.[/quote]

Black on white racism?

Well, Jb, the day the blacks will be in control of the justice system and can send as many whites as they like to jail, even for crime they didn’t commit, the day the blacks can keep whites out of job by the millions, the day the blacks can control the media, the White house, the Senate, and write laws citizen must abide by, the day the blacks create a black supremacy system, that only caters to blacks and to some minorities, then, yes, Jb, I will agree with you that black on white racism exist.

Please do not confuse prejudice with racism.

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

The same way you said you know people won’t drive through parts of the south because of the hate the locals have for blacks.[/quote]

You mean because of the hate crime stats I just posted from the FBI? Uh, yeah. That usually counts as a good resource.

You have not shown the same for white people in those areas.

Do you have proof that whites are more at risk of racial hate crimes?

No, I actually didn’t say that at all. I was responding to people saying that WHITE people have more places they can’t go because of race than black people.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I never said it wasn’t a significant issue.
Racism in any form is a significant issue. I merely said that its prevalence is overstated from one side, and that same side has plenty of members who believe literally that black people cant be racist.[/quote]

Let me make it more clear then, why do you think that because YOU ALONE think that “its prevalence is overstated from one side” that this stands as truth for all?[/quote]

I am pretty sure I am not alone as there have been plenty of people hear who have agreed with me. I know plenty of people who agree with me, black and white, that I have had honest conversations with. C.L. Bryant agrees with me. Bill Cosby agrees with me. Bill OReilly agrees with me.

Now let me ask you something, do you believe that racism towards whites is common in the black community?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

Blacks are the biggest victims solely because there are more of them there.

Of course less whites are assaulted/robbed/etc in those neighborhoods, they avoid those neighborhoods whenever necessary.

Please, use common sense for once. [/quote]

More personal attacks.

It was said that there are more places that white people can’t go because of racism than blacks…when nothing being shown represents this.

If BLACKS are attacked mostly BY BLACKS then saying whites are at more risk or there are more places whites can’t go because of racial attacks makes no sense.

Please respond without the personal attacks if you can.[/quote]

Trust me, he won’t.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Interesting.

It would seem perception is relevant.

It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.

JK[/quote]

Did you read his and my follow up posts? He lived in a decent part of Newark. I bring my family to the area for dinner on Sunday nights.

I still have my NJIT alumni email account. These are some of the advisories we’d get regularly. And this was NOT in the worst part of Newark. Shitty , crime ridden area, but not the worst.

At about 5:00PM on Friday, February 1, 2008, a NJIT student was robbed at gunpoint on the stairway entering the Lock Street subway station. The suspect armed with a handgun is described as a Hispanic male, 5’6" - 5’7", thin build, wearing a black leather jacket, grey hoodie, black baseball cap, and jeans. There were four other black males with the suspect. The Department of Public safety, Newark Police Department and New Jersey Transit Police Department are participating in the follow-up investigation. Additionally, the Department of Public safety is in the process of developing plans with the New Jersey Transit Police department to obtain a live feed from the security cameras posted in the station. Updates will be provided if further information is obtained.

A student was robbed at knife point by two male suspects at 156 Central Avenue, which is near the intersection of Central Avenue and Dr. Martin Luther King Boulevard. The student was not injured. One suspect was wearing blue jeans, dark blue hooded jacket with a head rag, 17-21 years of age, 160 lbs, 5�¢??, 7�¢?? in height. The second male was wearing a camouflage hooded jacket with solid tan below the neck line, 17-21 years of age, 160 lbs, 5�¢??, 7�¢?? in height. The matter is being investigated by the Newark Police Department and the NJIT Department of Public Safety.

An NJIT student reported to Public Safety that he was the victim of a robbery on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at approximately 4:15 PM. The student stated that he was approached by three unknown black males as he was boarding a subway car in the Warren Street subway station. The suspects demanded his iPod. The student complied with the demand and the suspects fled the area. The student was not injured in the incident.

Two incidents involving NJIT students:

  1. At approximately 10:00 PM three NJIT students were returning to their residence at 289 Martin Luther King Blvd., after shopping at the Pathmark Supermarket located on Bergen Street in Newark, NJ. As the students approached the area of Warren and Newark streets, several unknown juvenile males appeared from the bushes and struck one of the students in the chest and head as the other two students fled the area seeking Police assistance. The injured student was transported to UMDNJ where he was treated and released.
  2. At approximately 1:45 PM a NJIT student was the victim of a strong arm robbery occurring on the Warren Street subway platform. The student was approached by three juveniles who demanded his money. As the juveniles were fleeing the area, the student alerted the Public Safety Officer assigned to Lock Street and all three juveniles were apprehended and charged. The student was not injured in the incident.[/quote]

I thought you were arguing that whites were more at risk than blacks?

You are just posting crime stats…the first one involving a hispanic male.

What point are you making again?[/quote]

You asked what neighborhoods whites should stay out of, the above is evidence of one of them.

The victims are almost always Indian and white. They don’t post it in these advisories but it’s a small college and you end up hearing about the victims from your classmates. Also, I was replying to ZeCarlo that not all neighborhoods in Newark are as safe as his. But I think he already knows this.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

I am pretty sure I am not alone as there have been plenty of people hear who have agreed with me.[/quote]

Once again, why do you think your perception equals truth for all?

It doesn’t matter if 1,000 people agree with you. Why do you think your perception stands as truth for all people in the country?

Common? No, not in my city. I don’t know many black people at all who sit there and even worry about white people.

Houston is about as mixed as you can get.

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

You asked what neighborhoods whites should stay out of, the above is evidence of one of them.[/quote]

Yes, and apparently evidence that BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD STAY OUT EVEN MORE.

What have you shown that proves that white people have a rougher time there?

[quote]The victims are almost always Indian and white. They don’t post it in these advisories but it’s a small college and you end up hearing about the victims from your classmates. Also, I was replying to ZeCarlo that not all neighborhoods in Newark are as safe as his. But I think he already knows this.
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I asked about RACIAL HATE CRIMES.

You don’t seem to have many to show.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
South carolina:

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And you do realize I could google and find many more black on white crimes since that is far more the norm than the other way around? So this is moot. You have to look at both sides and not just what fits your agenda or message.[/quote]

And one would be a white female friend of mine that was mugged at gun point by a black man. But, that doesn’t count.[/quote]

Talking about Houston, my experience with it was filling up my rental car by Hobby Airport.

Three black youths, in thug wear, screamed by in a crappy american car, one leaned out, screeamed “fucking Joooooo!” and chunked a red slurpy on me, then sped off.

Super-pleasant place, Houston.[/quote]

Question…how were you dressed?