According to posters here, they would be accepted immediately as NOT THUGS by what they wear alone.
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Stop making things up. No one said “they would be accepted immediately as NOT THUGS by what they wear alone.”
But yes, their suits do help them not look like the fictional thugs that these people were purported to be.[/quote]
Then please define this for me because every time I ask this question based on a picture posted, no one can answer.
What is THUG about the way the guys were dressed in the previous picture posted?
Most guys I see dressed like that aren’t committing a crime. [/quote]
Most guys that are known thugs around my town, dress like those two guys. So if you don’t want to be labeled as they are why would you dress like them?[/quote]
I asked you specifically what makes that style of dress alone, without looking at anything else, make you call them a thug.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
You are making it seem like the south holds all the bigots. I have not seen any of this you talk about and I regularly visit Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama.[/quote]
WTF?
I know black people who won’t even drive through those parts of the country and you haven’t seen any?
I don’t agree that the South holds all the bigots, but let’s get serious here. I live down here and have driven through those areas too many times to count in my life. It’s there…IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THEY ARE THROWING IT AT.
It has gotten better…but mostly because you can’t drag black men down the road behind your truck without it becoming news anymore.[/quote]
And you do not think this happens with white people in parts of the inner cities? As a social experiment I nominate any white person here to walk through Overtown in Miami after midnight.
The problem with your arguments and opinions is that they are so far off base and grounded in the fact that your opinion and percieved reality is the one true reality. [/quote]
or try to buy gas in “the wrong neighborhood” in Baton Rouge. Oh wait…
According to posters here, they would be accepted immediately as NOT THUGS by what they wear alone.
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Stop making things up. No one said “they would be accepted immediately as NOT THUGS by what they wear alone.”
But yes, their suits do help them not look like the fictional thugs that these people were purported to be.[/quote]
Then please define this for me because every time I ask this question based on a picture posted, no one can answer.
What is THUG about the way the guys were dressed in the previous picture posted?
Most guys I see dressed like that aren’t committing a crime. [/quote]
Most guys that are known thugs around my town, dress like those two guys. So if you don’t want to be labeled as they are why would you dress like them?[/quote]
I asked you specifically what makes that style of dress alone, without looking at anything else, make you call them a thug.
You have not answered this.
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The way they are dressed would lead me to wonder question why they would want to dress like thugs. Because proven thugs I have seen on the news or in person (ie drug dealers, car thiefs, gang members) dress like that. Therefore because proven thugs dress a certain way that is outside the typical societal norms (like biker gang attire), then when you mimic their way of dress, people assume you also mimic the lifestyle.
2pac=thug
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another of the self proclaimed thug
just sayin[/quote]
What are you saying…because Tupac died in the 90’s and society has changed quite a lot since then.
He was a rap icon so yeah, he had many contributions to the style of hip hop…but to act as if that culture hasn’t evolved in 20+ years is a little strange.
The way they are dressed would lead me to wonder question why they would want to dress like thugs. [/quote]
Maybe they aren’t “dressing like thugs”.
Like has been said many times over, do you really think if you asked them what inspired their dress code, they would say, “we are trying to dress like thugs”?
It is a part of a culture, not some attempt to be a THUG like you seem to think.
You just sound fearful of young black men who don’t dress in some way to take that fear away.
I would assume you would act the same if he was in a Gucci jump suit.
2pac=thug
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another of the self proclaimed thug
just sayin[/quote]
What are you saying…because Tupac died in the 90’s and society has changed quite a lot since then.
He was a rap icon so yeah, he had many contributions to the style of hip hop…but to act as if that culture hasn’t evolved in 20+ years is a little strange.[/quote]
And I am fully aware that you have probably stereotyped me as the racist white Mississippi boy. I am not going in to all my justifications for how I am not at all racist, and maybe you actually are not thinking that, however if you are, just know that you could not be farther off base.
And I am fully aware that you have probably stereotyped me as the racist white Mississippi boy. I am not going in to all my justifications for how I am not at all racist, and maybe you actually are not thinking that, however if you are, just know that you could not be farther off base.[/quote]
What does this have to do with some guy using nearly 20 year old pictures of Tupac to tell me what makes “sagging pants” a thug signal alone.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
“Yo we deserve respect, its our CULTURE”
“Whats thug about this? Its called FASHION”[/quote]
those dudes aren’t thugs. If that is the look they are going for they are failing. Dudes don’t even have colors on or a single tat visible, even wearing a tank…
I have no idea how those shorts stay up without a belt however.
This is more like it. (In real life you wouldn’t likely see the guns.) I would suggest not fucking with Russian Mafia… I’ve seen what happens to a shop lifter, lol.
The way they are dressed would lead me to wonder question why they would want to dress like thugs. [/quote]
Maybe they aren’t “dressing like thugs”.
Like has been said many times over, do you really think if you asked them what inspired their dress code, they would say, “we are trying to dress like thugs”?
It is a part of a culture, not some attempt to be a THUG like you seem to think.
You just sound fearful of young black men who don’t dress in some way to take that fear away.
I would assume you would act the same if he was in a Gucci jump suit.
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Na I would just think he was a doosh, but that’s beside the point. They wouldn’t say they were trying to dress like thugs, they would say they were trying to dress that way to impress girls, look like a badass, look cool, fit in or something like that. And they would probably be right. I know this because I played ball and was close friends with a black guy who was always a very white dresser, liked his Abercrombie and stuff like that. He goes to a majority black college and when he comes home he is tatted up, with sagging pants and a dew rag. Those are the reasons he gave when I asked him about his clothes, that and he was being picked on.
However it is not only white people that think that this style of dress portrays a certain message about your character. I have black mother of two and a black guy my age who work in my office who I have heard many times discuss how ignorant the individuals who dress like that make themselves look.
And I am fully aware that you have probably stereotyped me as the racist white Mississippi boy. I am not going in to all my justifications for how I am not at all racist, and maybe you actually are not thinking that, however if you are, just know that you could not be farther off base.[/quote]
What does this have to do with some guy using nearly 20 year old pictures of Tupac to tell me what makes “sagging pants” a thug signal alone.[/quote]
Put that quote on the wrong statement. My apologies.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
“Yo we deserve respect, its our CULTURE”
“Whats thug about this? Its called FASHION”[/quote]
those dudes aren’t thugs. If that is the look they are going for they are failing. Dudes don’t even have colors on or a single tat visible, even wearing a tank…
I have no idea how those shorts stay up without a belt however.
This is more like it. (In real life you wouldn’t likely see the guns.) I would suggest not fucking with Russian Mafia… I’ve seen what happens to a shop lifter, lol. [/quote]
See, for me, the overriding thing that makes me think they are idiotic piece of shit criminals is the total lack of trigger safety.
2pac=thug
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another of the self proclaimed thug
just sayin[/quote]
What are you saying…because Tupac died in the 90’s and society has changed quite a lot since then.
He was a rap icon so yeah, he had many contributions to the style of hip hop…but to act as if that culture hasn’t evolved in 20+ years is a little strange.[/quote]
nope, just saying he was a self proclaimed thug and dressed a certain way. just sayin
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
“Yo we deserve respect, its our CULTURE”
“Whats thug about this? Its called FASHION”[/quote]
those dudes aren’t thugs. If that is the look they are going for they are failing. Dudes don’t even have colors on or a single tat visible, even wearing a tank…
I have no idea how those shorts stay up without a belt however.
This is more like it. (In real life you wouldn’t likely see the guns.) I would suggest not fucking with Russian Mafia… I’ve seen what happens to a shop lifter, lol. [/quote]
See, for me, the overriding thing that makes me think they are idiotic piece of shit criminals is the total lack of trigger safety.[/quote]
HAHA!
Someone cracked a joke a million years ago about Asians.
This is more like it. (In real life you wouldn’t likely see the guns.) I would suggest not fucking with Russian Mafia… I’ve seen what happens to a shop lifter, lol. [/quote]
But what makes those guys ‘‘thugs’’? Would you think they were thugs had you passed them walking down the streets (minus the cloth hiding their faces of course)? Would you consider them ‘‘thugs’’, hadn’t you seen them with their guns?
I see nothing with the way they’re dressed (well, minus the cloth) that suggests those guys are up to no good. Shit, even Will Smith used to dress that way back in the 90s and he’s one of the tamest rappers out there.
I am not saying it makes them thugs, simply that if many common thugs dress a certain way that is outside the societal norm (again, same with biker guys) then that style of dress is given a negative perception (kinda like Ed Hardy shirts and idiocy). So if you don’t want receive the same negative connotation that the real thugs earned for that style of dress, then don’t dress like that. If you are fine with that connotation, then by all means, go ahead but don’t whine about it when people are not looking favorably upon you.
