[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Have you every asked all these people who aren’t thugs why they dress like that?[/quote]
Why would I have to?
I already know it is because it is STYLE AND A TREND.
[quote]
Does it help them get jobs? Does it help with the job they have? Or possibly are they trying to look like the thugs they idolize/grew up around?[/quote]
Uh, most of the guys I know who dress like that have jobs. They just don’t sag “as much” on the job.
I doubt most people in this area of Houston would call that “thug” if they see it…because it is too common.[/quote]
Really and what you call this style and trend? What are they imitating? What look are they going for?
Those aren’t just for X I would like others opinions since talking with X is like talking to a rock
Gotti wore a suit and tie. He wasn’t a thug.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I see no one is jumping to tell me what made that man a thug in that picture.[/quote]
Thats because you see no one saying that saggy pants MAKE a thug.
This is a funny game we play.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Please describe to me Trayvaughns Body language that day…[/quote]
He walked in a manner described as Skittley.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Have you every asked all these people who aren’t thugs why they dress like that?[/quote]
Why would I have to?
I already know it is because it is STYLE AND A TREND.
[quote]
Does it help them get jobs? Does it help with the job they have? Or possibly are they trying to look like the thugs they idolize/grew up around?[/quote]
Uh, most of the guys I know who dress like that have jobs. They just don’t sag “as much” on the job.
I doubt most people in this area of Houston would call that “thug” if they see it…because it is too common.[/quote]
McDonald’s doesnt count.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Really and what you call this style and trend? What are they imitating? What look are they going for? [/quote]
Hip Hop.
Problem?
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I see no one is jumping to tell me what made that man a thug in that picture.[/quote]
Thats because you see no one saying that saggy pants MAKE a thug.
This is a funny game we play. [/quote]
Exactly. Now a hoodie is something different.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am now wondering if a white guy dressed exactly the same as the above is a THUG also.[/quote]
Uh, yes he would be perceived that way.[/quote]
By whom?[/quote]
White people. Black people. Everyone.
Its hilarious that you think white people cant look at other white people and profile them in the same manner. [/quote]
Had plenty of white guys dress like that in my Hs and college. Why did they do it? They wanted to look like thugz. Were they? No
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Really and what you call this style and trend? What are they imitating? What look are they going for? [/quote]
Hip Hop.
Problem?[/quote]
So thugz? Or wanna be thugz. Thanks for supporting What others have been saying No problem here
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Had plenty of white guys dress like that in my Hs and college. Why did they do it? They wanted to look like thugz. Were they? No [/quote]
How do you know?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am wondering if he was smiling [/quote]
Body language is important, as was said. Mannerisms, vernacular, gate… Everything is part of the package.
And no, lol, if dude was carrying around study material it would soften the “image”. That said if this guys was walking on a college campus people would look at him differently than if it was back alley too.
It all depends on a lot more than dress. So people with good judgment look beyond dress, when possible.
No one is saying everyone should look like Poindexter, not at all. People should do your thing. Just don’t be surprised when you get judged for it really.
Just like when you see a dude in a tight T, tanned up, blow out hair and acting a fool in the club. Jersey Shore TV show has made anyone with a tan, any sort of build and a Ed HArdy shirt a douchebag to a lot of people, before they talk to them. Emo kids?
Expression through style is just that, but people are going to judge. That will never change.
And wtf does thugz mean? What does thug mean? I know the etymological history of the word but has it taken on a new connotation? Has it become code for the n-word?
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Really and what you call this style and trend? What are they imitating? What look are they going for? [/quote]
Hip Hop.
Problem?[/quote]
So thugz? Or wanna be thugz. Thanks for supporting What others have been saying No problem here[/quote]
Hip Hop styles now mean “thugs or wannabe thugs”?
This is ridiculous.
This board has jumped the shark if guys like you speak for the majority here.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
And wtf does thugz mean? What does thug mean? I know the etymological history of the word but has it taken on a new connotation? Has it become code for the n-word? [/quote]
You are acting like a moron on purpose here. You are much smarter than this garbage, and you know it.
Stop trolling with this shit.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
It all depends on a lot more than dress. So people with good judgment look beyond dress, when possible. [/quote]
I was attacked for saying the same in different words. I agree…so this is also why I asked what exactly these people were doing in that “drive way scenario” that made them THUGS if he knew there was a house party nearby.
This is why women get profiled as sluts, men get profiled as thugs, and rightfully so:
Simple enough, right MMM?
Even writing it out in crayon cant make this any more elementary for you.
Dont bother commenting if you dont watch the whole thing.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I see no one is jumping to tell me what made that man a thug in that picture.[/quote]
Thats because you see no one saying that saggy pants MAKE a thug.
This is a funny game we play. [/quote]
Exactly. Now a hoodie is something different. [/quote]
Everyone knows only cold-blooded killers and child-rapists wear hoodies, dont even play.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am wondering if he was smiling [/quote]
Body language is important, as was said. Mannerisms, vernacular, gate… Everything is part of the package.
And no, lol, if dude was carrying around study material it would soften the “image”. That said if this guys was walking on a college campus people would look at him differently than if it was back alley too.
It all depends on a lot more than dress. So people with good judgment look beyond dress, when possible.
No one is saying everyone should look like Poindexter, not at all. People should do your thing. Just don’t be surprised when you get judged for it really.
Just like when you see a dude in a tight T, tanned up, blow out hair and acting a fool in the club. Jersey Shore TV show has made anyone with a tan, any sort of build and a Ed HArdy shirt a douchebag to a lot of people, before they talk to them. Emo kids?
Expression through style is just that, but people are going to judge. That will never change. [/quote]
People with good judgement also know that in some cases, profiling can help you avoid some pretty shitty people.
The key is to have the ability to see past that if they can prove you wrong. We arent discussing getting to know these people right now though.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Expression through style is just that, but people are going to judge. That will never change. [/quote]
But an educated person, which Zimmerman clearly is not, would understand that if he is perceiving something that he needs to know why he perceives it. He needs to come to terms with the forces that shape his judgement. That’s why racial profiling does not work. It’s why cops are not supposed to use it. It is inefficient. So if Zimmerman were an educated person he would have asked himself, “why do I believe black boys are all criminals? Why do I have a hard on and need to get these ‘assholes’? Why do I really believe that that black kid in a hoodie is suspicious?” The unexamined life is not worth living. If Zimmerman were educated he would know who said that. Even more importantly, he would have taken it to heart.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
It all depends on a lot more than dress. So people with good judgment look beyond dress, when possible. [/quote]
If you live in a city of millions, it’s rarely possible.
