Trayvon Martin Pt. 2 'The Legacy'

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:
I called the police.
[/quote]

LOL!!

Because there were people with sagging pants in your drive way just…standing there?

Dude, if the cops came in less than four hours, I am pissed off.

I am amazed at the society that thinks this is the proper behavior as opposed to, “excuse me…that’s my driveway!”.

Wow.

Yes, I do believe all of this falls in line with this topic.[/quote]

I’m done. It was a commentary on people profiling each other. You can think I’m an ass for being worried that the people in my driveway were people to be concerned about. As it turns out by the way. They were to attend a party down the road and decided that my driveway was ok to park in even though it wasn’t theirs. The police did arrive and when he asked them to move they threatened “kick his ass”. He eventually got them to leave but I’m fucking happy it wasn’t me that attempted it.

I used man-up because it’s seems to me that for “you” that’s what it would take. Me? Grew up in th city and have no fear of asking them to move along.

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:
I called the police.
[/quote]

LOL!!

Because there were people with sagging pants in your drive way just…standing there?

Dude, if the cops came in less than four hours, I am pissed off.

I am amazed at the society that thinks this is the proper behavior as opposed to, “excuse me…that’s my driveway!”.

Wow.

Yes, I do believe all of this falls in line with this topic.[/quote]

I’m done. It was a commentary on people profiling each other. You can think I’m an ass for being worried that the people in my driveway were people to be concerned about. As it turns out by the way. They were to attend a party down the road and decided that my driveway was ok to park in even though it wasn’t theirs. The police did arrive and when he asked them to move they threatened “kick his ass”. He eventually got them to leave but I’m fucking happy it wasn’t me that attempted it.
[/quote]

Dude, I’m actually glad you had the nuts to explain this.

I don’t hate you for it or think you are “an ass”.

I think you are devoid of any cultural knowledge of the people you are judging though.

Seriously, calling the cops because men are standing there?

Really?

You would do the same if they were white and wearing college sweaters?

They responded that way BECAUSE YOU CALLED THE COPS.

I would be pissed if someone called the fucking cops on me for standing there also.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, I would judge someone’s HYGIENE and relate that to their potential character/nature long before “sagging jeans vs a suit”.[/quote]

Another common way people are profiled. People with bad hygiene can be completely harmless just as someone with baggy pants can be completely harmless. The point is that the person with bad hygiene or baggy pants is MORE likely to steal or burglarize than the person wearing the suit. [/quote]

See, you just made a mistake.

You lumped “baggy pants” in with bad hygiene…which makes no logical sense.

I didn’t do that. Regardless of what the guy is wearing, I would look at HYGIENE above all else.

If you got to a night club in third ward, there will be hundreds of people in saggy pants with top of the line cologne in nice cars.[/quote]

I never said baggy pants and bad hygiene have any relation whatsoever. [/quote]

Oh really:

Bad hygiene OR baggy pants.

I mean, you did write that.[/quote]

Yes OR.

As in: baggy pants more likely to burglarize than a guy in a suit OR (read the OR a couple times for it to sink in) someone with bad hygiene more likely to burglarize than a guy in a suit.

What is so difficult to understand about this? I am not saying anything related to people with baggy pants having bad hygiene.

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, I would judge someone’s HYGIENE and relate that to their potential character/nature long before “sagging jeans vs a suit”.[/quote]

Another common way people are profiled. People with bad hygiene can be completely harmless just as someone with baggy pants can be completely harmless. The point is that the person with bad hygiene or baggy pants is MORE likely to steal or burglarize than the person wearing the suit. [/quote]

See, you just made a mistake.

You lumped “baggy pants” in with bad hygiene…which makes no logical sense.

I didn’t do that. Regardless of what the guy is wearing, I would look at HYGIENE above all else.

If you got to a night club in third ward, there will be hundreds of people in saggy pants with top of the line cologne in nice cars.[/quote]

I never said baggy pants and bad hygiene have any relation whatsoever. [/quote]

Oh really:

Bad hygiene OR baggy pants.

I mean, you did write that.[/quote]

Yes OR.

As in: baggy pants more likely to burglarize than a guy in a suit OR (read the OR a couple times for it to sink in) someone with bad hygiene more likely to burglarize than a guy in a suit.

What is so difficult to understand about this? I am not saying anything related to people with baggy pants having bad hygiene. [/quote]

LOL

“The point is that the person with bad hygiene or baggy pants is MORE likely to steal”
stills means exactly the same no matter how you try to back track now.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, I would judge someone’s HYGIENE and relate that to their potential character/nature long before “sagging jeans vs a suit”.[/quote]

Another common way people are profiled. People with bad hygiene can be completely harmless just as someone with baggy pants can be completely harmless. The point is that the person with bad hygiene or baggy pants is MORE likely to steal or burglarize than the person wearing the suit. [/quote]

See, you just made a mistake.

You lumped “baggy pants” in with bad hygiene…which makes no logical sense.

I didn’t do that. Regardless of what the guy is wearing, I would look at HYGIENE above all else.

If you got to a night club in third ward, there will be hundreds of people in saggy pants with top of the line cologne in nice cars.[/quote]

I never said baggy pants and bad hygiene have any relation whatsoever. [/quote]

Oh really:

Bad hygiene OR baggy pants.

I mean, you did write that.[/quote]

Yes OR.

As in: baggy pants more likely to burglarize than a guy in a suit OR (read the OR a couple times for it to sink in) someone with bad hygiene more likely to burglarize than a guy in a suit.

What is so difficult to understand about this? I am not saying anything related to people with baggy pants having bad hygiene. [/quote]

LOL

“The point is that the person with bad hygiene or baggy pants is MORE likely to steal”
stills means exactly the same no matter how you try to back track now.[/quote]

I’m not back tracking kiddo, I stand by that statement 100%.

Some of these posts reminds me of a quote I read back in college.
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity”
MLK

Take it easy gentleman.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:
I called the police.
[/quote]

LOL!!

Because there were people with sagging pants in your drive way just…standing there?

Dude, if the cops came in less than four hours, I am pissed off.

I am amazed at the society that thinks this is the proper behavior as opposed to, “excuse me…that’s my driveway!”.

Wow.

Yes, I do believe all of this falls in line with this topic.[/quote]

I’m done. It was a commentary on people profiling each other. You can think I’m an ass for being worried that the people in my driveway were people to be concerned about. As it turns out by the way. They were to attend a party down the road and decided that my driveway was ok to park in even though it wasn’t theirs. The police did arrive and when he asked them to move they threatened “kick his ass”. He eventually got them to leave but I’m fucking happy it wasn’t me that attempted it.
[/quote]

Dude, I’m actually glad you had the nuts to explain this.

I don’t hate you for it or think you are “an ass”.

I think you are devoid of any cultural knowledge of the people you are judging though.

Seriously, calling the cops because men are standing there?

Really?

You would do the same if they were white and wearing college sweaters?

They responded that way BECAUSE YOU CALLED THE COPS.

I would be pissed if someone called the fucking cops on me for standing there also.[/quote]

No, I wouldn’t have done the same. It is my point. I didn’t feel safe and I made that judgement based on outward appearance.

They didn’t act that way because I called the cops. They acted that way because they were assholes.

I would not decide it’s ok to park in the driveway of a home that I have no ties to. If the police show up I don’t attempt to start an altercation with them. I would never threaten to hurt or injure anyone let alone a police officer who is asking me to vacate a property that I have no ties to.

And… Zimmerman should have stayed in his car?

I’m not saying he shouldn’t have. I’m saying the same people who say he should have stayed in the car are telling me to approach 5 people standing in my driveway. I’m not armed and outnumbered. Significantly.

[quote]Cover_corner wrote:

Lmao cmon maaaaan 5 dudes with baggy pants just standing in a driveway making “noise”? Really? Making noise doing what? Beat-boxin?[/quote]

Have you spent much time around the city?

In Chicago you can walk into situations like this nightly. Doesnt mean anything bad’s gonna happen, but youre a godam retard if you dont up the caution level a bit. [/quote]

yes, born in a city and used sports to get out of my sitaution. But speaking of cities, I must say, it’s rare to see many “driveways”. But maybe that’s just me.[/quote]

Ok, so late at night, same scenario, but right in front of the stoop to your apartment rather than in your driveway. I’d be cautious.

Notice i didnt say i’d pull a gun or call the cops, but my level of alertness would increase for sure.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Seriously, calling the cops because men are standing there?

Really?
[/quote]
Ya, what were you thinking?
Calling the cops because 5 men, who were thugs, were trespassing on your property at night.
What a pussy.

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Seriously, calling the cops because men are standing there?

Really?
[/quote]
Ya, what were you thinking?
Calling the cops because 5 men, who were thugs, were trespassing on your property at night.
What a pussy.[/quote]

What made them thugs?

Could you explain this? They were at a house party and were standing in his drive way.

You ask them to move.

case solved.

i don’t see where the “thug” part came in or how you proved they were “thugs”.

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:
I called the police.
[/quote]

LOL!!

Because there were people with sagging pants in your drive way just…standing there?

Dude, if the cops came in less than four hours, I am pissed off.

I am amazed at the society that thinks this is the proper behavior as opposed to, “excuse me…that’s my driveway!”.

Wow.

Yes, I do believe all of this falls in line with this topic.[/quote]

I’m done. It was a commentary on people profiling each other. You can think I’m an ass for being worried that the people in my driveway were people to be concerned about. As it turns out by the way. They were to attend a party down the road and decided that my driveway was ok to park in even though it wasn’t theirs. The police did arrive and when he asked them to move they threatened “kick his ass”. He eventually got them to leave but I’m fucking happy it wasn’t me that attempted it.
[/quote]

Dude, I’m actually glad you had the nuts to explain this.

I don’t hate you for it or think you are “an ass”.

I think you are devoid of any cultural knowledge of the people you are judging though.

Seriously, calling the cops because men are standing there?

Really?

You would do the same if they were white and wearing college sweaters?

They responded that way BECAUSE YOU CALLED THE COPS.

I would be pissed if someone called the fucking cops on me for standing there also.[/quote]

No, I wouldn’t have done the same. It is my point. I didn’t feel safe and I made that judgement based on outward appearance.

They didn’t act that way because I called the cops. They acted that way because they were assholes.

I would not decide it’s ok to park in the driveway of a home that I have no ties to. If the police show up I don’t attempt to start an altercation with them. I would never threaten to hurt or injure anyone let alone a police officer who is asking me to vacate a property that I have no ties to.

And… Zimmerman should have stayed in his car?

I’m not saying he shouldn’t have. I’m saying the same people who say he should have stayed in the car are telling me to approach 5 people standing in my driveway. I’m not armed and outnumbered. Significantly.
[/quote]

If they are on your property you have the right to complain, but if those same group of guys were walking from the party at the house to a car past yours would you have called?

[quote]installglass wrote:

I would not decide it’s ok to park in the driveway of a home that I have no ties to.[/quote]

I have had my next door neighbors throw parties at their house and people are in front of my drive way. I may get pissed about it for a second…but calling the cops because they were standing there and did nothing wrong BEFORE asking them to move?

That is just a tad on the “too scared and showing some racism” side.

[quote]
If the police show up I don’t attempt to start an altercation with them. I would never threaten to hurt or injure anyone let alone a police officer who is asking me to vacate a property that I have no ties to.[/quote]

I wasn’t there, but I know for a fact that if someone called the cops BEFORE saying anything to me, I would be pissed also.

I don’t know this particular fact but why was Trayvon at the complex. Is it his home? If so was he there for longer then a few neighborhood watch meetings?, and if so how come Mr. Neighborhood watch man didn’t know him.

hmmmmmmm

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
I don’t know this particular fact but why was Trayvon at the complex. Is it his home? If so was he there for longer then a few neighborhood watch meetings?, and if so how come Mr. Neighborhood watch man didn’t know him.

hmmmmmmm[/quote]

He was visiting his father and didn’t live there. He usually lived with his mom but had visited before.

[quote]installglass wrote:
I didn’t feel safe and I made that judgement based on outward appearance.

[/quote]

What exactly made you not feel safe?

They were at a house party near you, right?

What made you feel “not safe”?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Seriously, calling the cops because men are standing there?

Really?
[/quote]
Ya, what were you thinking?
Calling the cops because 5 men, who were thugs, were trespassing on your property at night.
What a pussy.[/quote]

What made them thugs?

Could you explain this? They were at a house party and were standing in his drive way.

You ask them to move.

case solved.

i don’t see where the “thug” part came in or how you proved they were “thugs”.[/quote]
Did you read the part where they threaded to kick the police officers ass when he asked them to move?

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Seriously, calling the cops because men are standing there?

Really?
[/quote]
Ya, what were you thinking?
Calling the cops because 5 men, who were thugs, were trespassing on your property at night.
What a pussy.[/quote]

What made them thugs?

Could you explain this? They were at a house party and were standing in his drive way.

You ask them to move.

case solved.

i don’t see where the “thug” part came in or how you proved they were “thugs”.[/quote]
Did you read the part where they threaded to kick the police officers ass when he asked them to move?[/quote]

Uh…wouldn’t that be SEVERAL MINUTES OR EVEN HOURS after seeing them?

What made them thugs enough to call cops when he did NOT say anything to them before hand?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:
I didn’t feel safe and I made that judgement based on outward appearance.
[/quote]
What exactly made you not feel safe?

They were at a house party near you, right?

What made you feel “not safe”?[/quote]
There were a group of loud strangers hanging out in his driveway late at night.
I think that’s cause enough to not feel 100% comfortable.

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:
I didn’t feel safe and I made that judgement based on outward appearance.
[/quote]
What exactly made you not feel safe?

They were at a house party near you, right?

What made you feel “not safe”?[/quote]
There were a group of loud strangers hanging out in his driveway late at night.
I think that’s cause enough to not feel 100% comfortable.[/quote]

You are justifying someone calling POLICE because people are STANDING THERE GOING TO A NEAR BY HOUSE PARTY instead of just asking them to move?

Wow.