Trayvon Martin Pt. 2 'The Legacy'

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Just look again.

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Looks like the path they drew corresponds with being all sidewalk to me, although the one section looks like it is intermittent. Could just be an optical illusion due to camera angles though. At no point does the path that is laid out come from between two close buildings as far as I can see.[/quote]

You don’t see the NW perimeter apartments? The space in between? There’s no walkway there. You’re not still looking at the T-intersection picture are you?
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NW = the top left portion of the photo :)[/quote]

Yessir.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Just look again.

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Looks like the path they drew corresponds with being all sidewalk to me, although the one section looks like it is intermittent. Could just be an optical illusion due to camera angles though. At no point does the path that is laid out come from between two close buildings as far as I can see.[/quote]

You don’t see the NW perimeter apartments? The space in between? There’s no walkway there. You’re not still looking at the T-intersection picture are you?
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I edited my post but apparently not quickly enough. I see it, my mistake.
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Ok. Yeah, that’s where he’s reported Martin first emerging from.

[quote]installglass wrote:

I didn’t grow up in the third ward. I did however grow up in a very rough area and I tend to be concerned on occasion about people based on outside appearances. I’m not saying that I’m right either but I won’t lie and act like I don’t. I honestly find it hard to believe that anyone doesn’t do it on occasion.
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I don’t.

I mean, if someone is coming in for a job interview, then yeah…but on the street?

Are you kidding?

It gets to over 100 degrees around here. No one is looking at guys in a tank top as “thugs” unless they are very conservative and have no experience with any urban culture at all.

I think being that frightened by a guy with a mohawk denotes a problem.

Seriously.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

I didn’t grow up in the third ward. I did however grow up in a very rough area and I tend to be concerned on occasion about people based on outside appearances. I’m not saying that I’m right either but I won’t lie and act like I don’t. I honestly find it hard to believe that anyone doesn’t do it on occasion.
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I don’t.

I mean, if someone is coming in for a job interview, then yeah…but on the street?

Are you kidding?

It gets to over 100 degrees around here. No one is looking at guys in a tank top as “thugs” unless they are very conservative and have no experience with any urban culture at all.

I think being that frightened by a guy with a mohawk denotes a problem.

Seriously.[/quote]

OK, I can’t say what you do or don’t do. You are your own person.

Let me ask you a question though. This happened to me recently. I am white and live in a fairly mixed race neighborhood. I came home one evening after being out with some friends. When I arrived home (in the dark) there were 5 people in my driveway with sagging pants making a lot of noise. It appeared to me that they didn’t belong there as this was my property and all.

Question. What would you do?

Let me ask you a question though. This happened to me recently. I am white and live in a fairly mixed race neighborhood. I came home one evening after being out with some friends. When I arrived home (in the dark) there were 5 people in my driveway with sagging pants making a lot of noise. It appeared to me that they didn’t belong there as this was my property and all.

Lmao cmon maaaaan 5 dudes with baggy pants just standing in a driveway making “noise”? Really? Making noise doing what? Beat-boxin?

[quote]Cover_corner wrote:
Let me ask you a question though. This happened to me recently. I am white and live in a fairly mixed race neighborhood. I came home one evening after being out with some friends. When I arrived home (in the dark) there were 5 people in my driveway with sagging pants making a lot of noise. It appeared to me that they didn’t belong there as this was my property and all.

Lmao cmon maaaaan 5 dudes with baggy pants just standing in a driveway making “noise”? Really? Making noise doing what? Beat-boxin?[/quote]

OK speaking at a volume that was much louder than is necessary.

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

I didn’t grow up in the third ward. I did however grow up in a very rough area and I tend to be concerned on occasion about people based on outside appearances. I’m not saying that I’m right either but I won’t lie and act like I don’t. I honestly find it hard to believe that anyone doesn’t do it on occasion.
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I don’t.

I mean, if someone is coming in for a job interview, then yeah…but on the street?

Are you kidding?

It gets to over 100 degrees around here. No one is looking at guys in a tank top as “thugs” unless they are very conservative and have no experience with any urban culture at all.

I think being that frightened by a guy with a mohawk denotes a problem.

Seriously.[/quote]

OK, I can’t say what you do or don’t do. You are your own person.

Let me ask you a question though. This happened to me recently. I am white and live in a fairly mixed race neighborhood. I came home one evening after being out with some friends. When I arrived home (in the dark) there were 5 people in my driveway with sagging pants making a lot of noise. It appeared to me that they didn’t belong there as this was my property and all.

Question. What would you do?
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Easy, ask them all to line up so he could inspect their mouths for cavities and smell their arm pits to gauge their high gene levels.

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

I didn’t grow up in the third ward. I did however grow up in a very rough area and I tend to be concerned on occasion about people based on outside appearances. I’m not saying that I’m right either but I won’t lie and act like I don’t. I honestly find it hard to believe that anyone doesn’t do it on occasion.
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I don’t.

I mean, if someone is coming in for a job interview, then yeah…but on the street?

Are you kidding?

It gets to over 100 degrees around here. No one is looking at guys in a tank top as “thugs” unless they are very conservative and have no experience with any urban culture at all.

I think being that frightened by a guy with a mohawk denotes a problem.

Seriously.[/quote]

OK, I can’t say what you do or don’t do. You are your own person.

Let me ask you a question though. This happened to me recently. I am white and live in a fairly mixed race neighborhood. I came home one evening after being out with some friends. When I arrived home (in the dark) there were 5 people in my driveway with sagging pants making a lot of noise. It appeared to me that they didn’t belong there as this was my property and all.

Question. What would you do?
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I would drive up, start driving into the my drive way and if they didn’t move then I would say something.

Uh, that would happen no matter what the people were wearing.

[quote]Cover_corner wrote:
Let me ask you a question though. This happened to me recently. I am white and live in a fairly mixed race neighborhood. I came home one evening after being out with some friends. When I arrived home (in the dark) there were 5 people in my driveway with sagging pants making a lot of noise. It appeared to me that they didn’t belong there as this was my property and all.

Lmao cmon maaaaan 5 dudes with baggy pants just standing in a driveway making “noise”? Really? Making noise doing what? Beat-boxin?[/quote]

Have you spent much time around the city?

In Chicago you can walk into situations like this nightly. Doesnt mean anything bad’s gonna happen, but youre a godam retard if you dont up the caution level a bit.

LOl at being scared of people because of sagging pants.

I do believe that falls in line with exactly what people are upset about with this case.

[quote]Cover_corner wrote:
If 5 dudes with baggy pants are in your driveway, man up and ask them to leave “your property”. But do not chase them a few hundred feet and then allow yourself to get caught up in a physical altercation. They just might be “real” thugs and have a gun of their own to use and not skittles. If all else fails? Call George.[/quote]

I am confused as to what their clothing has to do with anything.

Dear Lord…and they were BLACK!!!

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

I didn’t grow up in the third ward. I did however grow up in a very rough area and I tend to be concerned on occasion about people based on outside appearances. I’m not saying that I’m right either but I won’t lie and act like I don’t. I honestly find it hard to believe that anyone doesn’t do it on occasion.
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I don’t.

I mean, if someone is coming in for a job interview, then yeah…but on the street?

Are you kidding?

It gets to over 100 degrees around here. No one is looking at guys in a tank top as “thugs” unless they are very conservative and have no experience with any urban culture at all.

I think being that frightened by a guy with a mohawk denotes a problem.

Seriously.[/quote]

OK, I can’t say what you do or don’t do. You are your own person.

Let me ask you a question though. This happened to me recently. I am white and live in a fairly mixed race neighborhood. I came home one evening after being out with some friends. When I arrived home (in the dark) there were 5 people in my driveway with sagging pants making a lot of noise. It appeared to me that they didn’t belong there as this was my property and all.

Question. What would you do?
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I would drive up, start driving into the my drive way and if they didn’t move then I would say something.

Uh, that would happen no matter what the people were wearing.[/quote]

Really? What if it was 5 elderly women on rascals, all gathered around their friend lying on the ground who just suffered a stroke? Seems kinda rude to just drive up and expect 'em to move…

[quote]Cover_corner wrote:

…5 dudes with baggy pants just standing in a driveway making “noise”? Really? Making noise doing what? Beat-boxin?[/quote]

Lol. Okay that was funny. Hahaha!!

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, I would judge someone’s HYGIENE and relate that to their potential character/nature long before “sagging jeans vs a suit”.[/quote]

Another common way people are profiled. People with bad hygiene can be completely harmless just as someone with baggy pants can be completely harmless. The point is that the person with bad hygiene or baggy pants is MORE likely to steal or burglarize than the person wearing the suit. [/quote]

You’re likely to get robbed. The person with baggy jeans is more likely to trip and fall when trying to get away.

[quote]Cover_corner wrote:
If 5 dudes with baggy pants are in your driveway, man up and ask them to leave “your property”. But do not chase them a few hundred feet and then allow yourself to get caught up in a physical altercation. They just might be “real” thugs and have a gun of their own to use and not skittles. If all else fails? Call George.[/quote]

Man up? I’m going to use “the neighborhood I grew up in” argument too. Where I grew up. You could get the shit kicked out of you for appearing different than the people in the neighborhood. eg. white. I’m not manning up and have the possible “real” thugs hurt me. I called the police. My point is that I profiled them and you just did too saying they could be thugs. I won’t say that I was right for doing it but if they (in the dark) looked similar to me I would have assumed it was people that I knew and maybe they were trying to figure out where to go as I wasn’t home. We all profile people to some extent.

I have a viewpoint on the Zimmerman case probably not too much different than yours. That’s also not what I was talking about and didn’t get involved in that part of this discussion because I don’t want to argue over that.

My point was only about profiling. We all do it at times. Right or wrong it happens to be nature.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]installglass wrote:

I didn’t grow up in the third ward. I did however grow up in a very rough area and I tend to be concerned on occasion about people based on outside appearances. I’m not saying that I’m right either but I won’t lie and act like I don’t. I honestly find it hard to believe that anyone doesn’t do it on occasion.
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I don’t.

I mean, if someone is coming in for a job interview, then yeah…but on the street?

Are you kidding?

It gets to over 100 degrees around here. No one is looking at guys in a tank top as “thugs” unless they are very conservative and have no experience with any urban culture at all.

I think being that frightened by a guy with a mohawk denotes a problem.

Seriously.[/quote]

OK, I can’t say what you do or don’t do. You are your own person.

Let me ask you a question though. This happened to me recently. I am white and live in a fairly mixed race neighborhood. I came home one evening after being out with some friends. When I arrived home (in the dark) there were 5 people in my driveway with sagging pants making a lot of noise. It appeared to me that they didn’t belong there as this was my property and all.

Question. What would you do?
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I would drive up, start driving into the my drive way and if they didn’t move then I would say something.

Uh, that would happen no matter what the people were wearing.[/quote]

Really? What if it was 5 elderly women on rascals, all gathered around their friend lying on the ground who just suffered a stroke? Seems kinda rude to just drive up and expect 'em to move…
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I would still just pull into the drive way.

I see fat people on rascals all day long at Wal Mart. They are the worst thugs on the planet.

I saw one rape a whole box of Oreos in line once…in public.

Fuck 'em.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Cover_corner wrote:
If 5 dudes with baggy pants are in your driveway, man up and ask them to leave “your property”. But do not chase them a few hundred feet and then allow yourself to get caught up in a physical altercation. They just might be “real” thugs and have a gun of their own to use and not skittles. If all else fails? Call George.[/quote]

I am confused as to what their clothing has to do with anything.

Dear Lord…and they were BLACK!!![/quote]

In the dark you couldn’t tell but you could make out what they were wearing

[quote]installglass wrote:
I called the police.
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LOL!!

Because there were people with sagging pants in your drive way just…standing there?

Dude, if the cops came in less than four hours, I am pissed off.

I am amazed at the society that thinks this is the proper behavior as opposed to, “excuse me…that’s my driveway!”.

Wow.

Yes, I do believe all of this falls in line with this topic.

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Cover_corner wrote:
If 5 dudes with baggy pants are in your driveway, man up and ask them to leave “your property”. But do not chase them a few hundred feet and then allow yourself to get caught up in a physical altercation. They just might be “real” thugs and have a gun of their own to use and not skittles. If all else fails? Call George.[/quote]

I am confused as to what their clothing has to do with anything.

Dear Lord…and they were BLACK!!![/quote]

In the dark you couldn’t tell but you could make out what they were wearing
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In the dark, people can tell I have teeth if I smile.

I am still not clear on what the issue was.

Lmao cmon maaaaan 5 dudes with baggy pants just standing in a driveway making “noise”? Really? Making noise doing what? Beat-boxin?[/quote]

Have you spent much time around the city?

In Chicago you can walk into situations like this nightly. Doesnt mean anything bad’s gonna happen, but youre a godam retard if you dont up the caution level a bit. [/quote]

yes, born in a city and used sports to get out of my sitaution. But speaking of cities, I must say, it’s rare to see many “driveways”. But maybe that’s just me.