Training with a Weakling....

I started training with a friend of mine from school, he’s about that size as well. I’m just keeping him motivated and correcting his form on mostly everything. You can’t really make sure they won’t “quit” on you… You either come to love training or you hate it. I’ve been training since the 8th grade, so it’s basically in my DNA now.

Set him up on a good diet plan, do some role playing of you taking his girl and just bench pressing him, etc… Also, does he know just being bigger won’t help him defend himself, in the “bar fight” end of things? Maybe he should be at an MMA or boxing gym.

[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
Ooh Wez, I’m loving the new avvie ;D

But cereal… 5’8 and 120?! Shit, I’LL steal his girl.[/quote]

Didn’t you say your bf is a pretty small guy?

So, is the guy not only small, but also a noob to lifting? If so, he could probably use all the technique practice he can get. I wouldn’t recommend anything too complicated.

Sorry I abandoned this thread for the last couple days. My internet connection was down.

Anyway, here’s what’s gone on so far…

Monday (International Chest Day)
At work, I fed him a nice big bowl of cavatelli, and a steak for dinner. Right before our shift ended, I had him pound a protein shake.
Left work, and headed through a blizzard, to the gym.

We had a great chest/back workout. This kid did not question me one time. He did everything I told him to do, right down to putting the weights back after we were finished with each lift. By the time we walked out of there, the kid (And myself as well) had nothing left to give. We were both completely spent.

Tuesday
At work, the kid ate a bowl of spaghetti, and a big chicken breast (Without me having to force him). Then later, a big bowl of rice. At the end of shift, a protein shake.
We left work, and headed through the same seemingly never-ending blizzard, to the gym.

Biceps/Triceps tonight. I asked the kid how he was feeling and he replied “My back and chest are sore as fuck…and I like it”. “Ahhhh…Just the way it should be”, I told him. After that, I didn’t hear one more complaint about soreness or fatigue all night.

I went through my usual biceps/triceps routine, with him tagging along and doing his best to keep up. He seemed to really enjoy all of the triceps moves, which is a good sign (to me anyway). By the time we got to hammer curls (My last biceps lift), the kid was out of gas. He asked if he could sit that one out, and I told him no. I said “pick up a weight you can handle, and do what I’m doing”. He didn’t bitch and moan about it, though…Just grabbed some 20s, and gutted out 3 really really tough sets. He struggled mightily, but didn’t give up.

Overall, I’d say “So far, so good”. I’ve got him tracking ALL of his food for this week, and we’re going to get him on a plan starting next week. After tonight’s workout, he mentioned that he now understands the need to shovel in more calories during the day, so he’ll have the fuel to get through his workouts.

I also bought him a little notebook, identical to the one I carry around at the gym, so he can keep track of what weights/sets/reps he’s doing on each lift. This has helped me a lot, so I figured it would do the same for him.

Sometime next week, I’m going to take him to the mall to pick up some protein, and have the talk about how he can’t buy a whole new physique from GNC. I don’t want to see him spend a fortune on supplements, only to be disappointed with the outcome. I refuse to let this kid make the same mistakes that I’ve made in the past.

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
Ooh Wez, I’m loving the new avvie ;D

But cereal… 5’8 and 120?! Shit, I’LL steal his girl.[/quote]

Didn’t you say your bf is a pretty small guy?[/quote]

Maybe she is dating a small guy now…But I’m working on changing that. :wink:

@op: I just went through this today.

Dude wants to work in with me and my GP on Back day. Big waste of time. We spent more time deloading weight than anything else. Never Again!!!

My GP is smaller and not as strong - no biggie! I DL 405 for reps and he’ll do 315 - no problemo dropping one wheel. This dude wants us to take off all the wheels and drop on two 25lb plates.

My suggestion is to give him a program. If he wants to do it he will. When he’s developed some dedication and can move decent weight then he can work out with the big boys.

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
My suggestion is to give him a program. If he wants to do it he will. When he’s developed some dedication and can move decent weight then he can work out with the big boys.[/quote]

That thought definitely occurred to me when the guy first asked. But I couldn’t escape the thought of how much better off I would be if somebody would have done for me what I’m doing for him.

Giving him a program won’t teach him good form. Giving him a program won’t give me the personal satisfaction of helping him progress. And giving him a program certainly won’t give him the occasional kick in the ass that most (if not all) need every once in a while.

Plus, I would definitely hate to see him go to the gym, with my program in hand, and suffer a serious injury while using bad form on one of the big lifts. Call me a softie, but I would feel personally responsible for something like that.

I’m not sure if anyone still cares, but Wednesday was (always is) Leg Day. I thought that would be the time that the kid lets me down. I figured there was a good chance that with the fun of working arms and chest over with, and the grueling hard work of leg days starting, his excitement would wane…Thus diminishing his effort level.

I was wrong. He gave just as much effort Wednesday as he did Monday and Tuesday…And I was proud. We spent a ton of time on squat form, and will probably have to do the same next week, but I expected that.

He’s eating right, and giving everything he’s got in the weight room. At this point, I have no complaints about my little protege. If he continues with this sort of dedication, he’ll start seeing some noticeable progress very quickly.

[quote]Wezcattoy wrote:
I’m not sure if anyone still cares, but Wednesday was (always is) Leg Day. I thought that would be the time that the kid lets me down. I figured there was a good chance that with the fun of working arms and chest over with, and the grueling hard work of leg days starting, his excitement would wane…Thus diminishing his effort level.

I was wrong. He gave just as much effort Wednesday as he did Monday and Tuesday…And I was proud. We spent a ton of time on squat form, and will probably have to do the same next week, but I expected that.

He’s eating right, and giving everything he’s got in the weight room. At this point, I have no complaints about my little protege. If he continues with this sort of dedication, he’ll start seeing some noticeable progress very quickly.
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Good to hear. I live in Ohio as well, this snow has sucked pretty bad all week =p.

[quote]Teddy057 wrote:

[quote]Wezcattoy wrote:
I’m not sure if anyone still cares, but Wednesday was (always is) Leg Day. I thought that would be the time that the kid lets me down. I figured there was a good chance that with the fun of working arms and chest over with, and the grueling hard work of leg days starting, his excitement would wane…Thus diminishing his effort level.

I was wrong. He gave just as much effort Wednesday as he did Monday and Tuesday…And I was proud. We spent a ton of time on squat form, and will probably have to do the same next week, but I expected that.

He’s eating right, and giving everything he’s got in the weight room. At this point, I have no complaints about my little protege. If he continues with this sort of dedication, he’ll start seeing some noticeable progress very quickly.
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Good to hear. I live in Ohio as well, this snow has sucked pretty bad all week =p.
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Yeah, it’s been pretty terrible, but it’s clearer now. Where are you at in Ohio? I’m in Youngstown.

Take it easy on little guys.

I started out as a little guy. 120lbs.

By started out I mean born.

[quote]Nards wrote:
Take it easy on little guys.

I started out as a little guy. 120lbs.

By started out I mean born.[/quote]

Wow…To squeeze that out of a vagina is amazing.

Your mother was either a grizzly bear or a whore.

I guess we’re brothers then.

[quote]Wezcattoy wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
Take it easy on little guys.

I started out as a little guy. 120lbs.

By started out I mean born.[/quote]

Wow…To squeeze that out of a vagina is amazing.

Your mother was either a grizzly bear or a whore.[/quote]

Lol

Waitaminute!
I get it now. This is one of those “I have a friend who is having trouble getting it up.” type things right? There is no friend, am I right?

I demand the banter between Nards and Wezz continues until I tire of it.

A grizzly… lol

Look, some guys just say that they train really hard, eat right, but that may be just going through a rep/set scheme while eating what their mother cooks. If you are a well read person about this, or know and are on your way to big gains, just teach him how YOU train, eat and everything, in a way that a) he changes his habits, or b) he just realizes this is not for him, because he doesn’t have the values and the balls to go through what is needed to get really big.

Edit: if someone doesn’t have a severe hormone defficiency or a really bad injury, he should be 100% able to break 120-130 or those milestones man, that’s a fact.

[quote]Nards wrote:
Waitaminute!
I get it now. This is one of those “I have a friend who is having trouble getting it up.” type things right? There is no friend, am I right?[/quote]

Swing and a miss…Do I look like I’m under 150 pounds in my pics?

Good fun, though…I look forward to more nonsensical interactions in the future.

[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
Look, some guys just say that they train really hard, eat right, but that may be just going through a rep/set scheme while eating what their mother cooks. If you are a well read person about this, or know and are on your way to big gains, just teach him how YOU train, eat and everything, in a way that a) he changes his habits, or b) he just realizes this is not for him, because he doesn’t have the values and the balls to go through what is needed to get really big.

Edit: if someone doesn’t have a severe hormone defficiency or a really bad injury, he should be 100% able to break 120-130 or those milestones man, that’s a fact.[/quote]

This is essentially what I’ve been doing. He does exactly the same workout I do, every day.

Some of our goals are different, however, so our diets are definitely not the same.

So far, he seems to be going with option A) changing his habits. I’m very impressed with the determination he’s been showing thus far.

[quote]Wezcattoy wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
Waitaminute!
I get it now. This is one of those “I have a friend who is having trouble getting it up.” type things right? There is no friend, am I right?[/quote]

Swing and a miss…Do I look like I’m under 150 pounds in my pics?

Good fun, though…I look forward to more nonsensical interactions in the future.[/quote]

Well, um, maybe they’re not your pics! Take a look at mine! Do you honestly think I’m that good looking and built like a condom crammed with walnuts?!?!