Hey gents,
Just wanted to see what your favorite types of training were on cycle. So post up your favorite training/workout split and what you use it for (eg. size, strength, cut, maintain.)
Feel free to post the amounts of sets and reps too. It might be interesting to see what kind of volume each of us are used to while on and off.
Marvelous thread idea Devil- Being that I have not done a cycle yet I cannot post a routine. However when I do go on, I will be doing DC. You could read up on World’s, “High Dose, short Cycle” thread. He ran DC throughout most of his cycle, and fell in love. Until he left for training, he ran a bastardized DC template among other out-of-the-gym exersises with the aid of a-drol and winn.
Mingledorff
Well, I’ve never been on gear before, but I have done stuff like Chad Waterbury’s High Frequency training where eventually I ended up training like 3 hours total a day doing by doing 2 full body workouts per day, 4 days a week for 4 months and didn’t burn out at all. Anyhow, I was thinking of something like this:
Monday - Chest, Biceps, Traps
Tuesday - Legs, Shoulders, Calves
Wednesday - Back, Triceps, Traps
Thursday - Chest, Biceps, Calves
Friday - Legs, Shoulders, Traps
Saturday - Back, Triceps, Calves
Sunday - Rest
That way every muscle gets hit often since I will have a much quicker recovery from the last workout.
As for sets and reps, what I plan on doing is picking 3 - 5 exercises per bodypart, which will inversely effect the amount of sets within a range of 3 - 5 as well. So if I do 3 exercises, I will do 5 sets of each exercise for each body part, 4 sets of 4 exercises, and 3 sets of 5 exercises, and so on.
Basically, I plan on taking the first two body parts listed from each day I listed and I will do a set of each and rest, then do however many of that exercise and move on to the next one. Once I am done working out the first two body parts, I wind down by hitting something simple like traps or calves. I will most likely do 3 exercises for 3 sets for traps and calves.
I will be doing low rep work (3 - 8 reps) for the first 3 days of the week, then high rep work for the 4th - 6th day of the week (9 - 15 reps), and then switch that around the next week so my body doesn’t get used to it.
As for exercises, I will usually start off with the powerlifting exercises like bench, squat, and deadlift so that I get to do those fresh and hopefully be able to make those skyrocket. My goals are to hit a 500 bench, 800 squat and 800 deadlift during the cycle.
I may also rotate what I do what day. For example:
Refer to the chest workout as workout 1, leg workout as workout 2, and back workout 3.
Week 1 will do workouts in the order of 1, 2, and 3 twice in a row, then rest one day. Week two will do workouts in the order of 3, 1, 2 twice in a row, then rest one day. Week 3 will do workouts in the order of 2, 3, 1, etc.
At the beginning of week 7, I will add one set onto everything for more volume, which should help the gains continue.
I like mixing things up so that I can have my parameters constantly rotating so they’re never the same.
Nutrition-wise, I work at a University, so I get to eat at their cafeteria, meaning I have limitless access to food. I plan on eating 500+ grams of protein a day and pushing 6k calories or so. All of the small guys I see that say they want to start gear get told that they will need to eat at least 5k calories to get good results, I figured I’d go for about 6k.
I take 10g of creatine mono, 2 servings of Superfood, 1 multi, 12 Flameout pills, 6 beta-alanine pills, and 150 grams of protein powder a day (100 in whey isolate, the other in a blend) a day.
My goals are pure size. I wish to reach 260 lbs at 8% or less bodyfat (or at least be at 260 when I’m at 8% bodyfat… in case I overshoot it) I have high goals for this cycle, so I will push like hell to obtain them.
And for the final part, the cycle:
Weeks 1 - 4: 100mg/ED Test Prop Kick start, tapering down by 25mg/ED every week as the longer estered test kicks in
Weeks 1 - 12: 300mg/E3D Test Cyp
Weeks 1 - 12: 50mg/ED Tren Ace, tapering up 5mg/ED every week until I either hit a ceiling where I cannot handle a higher dose due to sides, or until I hit 75mg/ED which is the most I could use per day and not run out.
The whole cycle itself is run along with .25mg EOD of Adex as well as 250IU E3D of HCG. I will be using a 6 week stasis, 9 week taper alongside Nolva for the taper.
my proposed cycle and work out will be in about 2-3 weeks i wanted to start the first of next month but I will start whenever I get my a’dex (only thing left to add to my stash)heres what it looks like
going for not so much size but a maintance of lean mass.
work out
cardio 2-3 hours days 1,3,5
moderate lifting days 2,4 with light cardio warm up and cool downs
max effort lift day 6
day 7 eat and sleep all day no one bothers me for nothing.
diet will be very restrictive until that day 7 feast with ephedrine thrown in for appetite control during the week.
want to know the cycle or just the work out?
I did this when I was on my deca cycle and had alot of fun with it.
I didnt keep track of reps or anything just moderate days I made sure I still had some left in the tank and on the max effort I was crawling out the gym after.
when on and bulking ill do 2 body parts a day mon-fri at max intensity. Cardio 20 mins after each lifting session. When off the same thing but 1 bodypart a day. Depending on the gear, you can recover much quicker so train balls to the wall.
The way I see it intensity should be self-regulating when your strength/endurance is being enhanced.
My training is no different when on to when not - all that will change is my volume/intensity will dip post cycle till i normalise, and naturally increase session to session while on cycle.
Other than that, whatever i am doing training wise is independant of my cycles… other than making the most of recovery/strength i get.
JJ
I suppose training all varies cycle to cycle, goal to goal and whatever is working for me at the time.
I personally love high volume training, unfortunately i am old now 
and cant get away with it.
When i was 19 i trained 6 days a week at least 25 sets per bodypart, everything 3 times a week!! and i still grew haha
At the moment, on a total of 1.5g combined gear a week test, dbol, wintrol i am using a mike mentzer type approach with dorian yates type torture methods.
For example, holding for extended periods of time at the peak contraction of a movement.
Split is a simple chest,tri’s / back,bi’s / legs, shoulders 3 so in the gym 3 days a week and cardio done at the moment 5 days a week, calories now at around 6500.
Getting back to basics really at the moment, looking through my logs at what worked in the past and recreating it with modifications.
For example, at age 23 i did a program involving very heavy dumbell curling. Over that year my biceps grew well. So i am currently re-creating that, low controlled reps using around 80lbs per arm for 4-5 reps, 2 sets. Then if im not too fatigued a few sets of ‘bicep’ pull ups with a hundred or so pounds on my lifting belt until i git failure.
To save rabbling on, my motto is if it worked when not on cycle, do it on cycle, just do it heavier - thats whats working for me.
Test
Some good posts, gents!
Keep 'em coming.
Just wanted throw in my normal PCT ritual.
Usually cut my volume a lot. And do heavier weights for less reps. Trying to hit one muscle group per day. Like Mon-Chest, Tue-Legs, Wed-Arms, Thu-Back, Fri-Shoulders. I also try to get in and out of the gym in under an hour. Usually more towards the 30-45 minute time range. I also drop cardio to practically nothing. 1 sometimes 2 days a week. But I keep hitting abs 2x a week. Also cut back on the carbs a lil and up the protein.
I pretty much followed my training I was doing off cycle [it was working so well] when I went back on. However, I totally hit a wall with my CNS. So I’m going to back off for a week or ten days and so some bodybuilding crap and I just pump myself up.
You can overtrain and overreach even on AAS