Sumo wrestlers don’t train and have meets?[/quote]
sure they compete, but they get to be their size by food, rest/recuperation/therapy/doing nothing, and genetics (maybe drugs, dunno. drugs would help make them lean and they dont really want that).
they want to be at as great a calorie surplus as possible. training inhibits this and it wouldn’t provide more muscle growth because they’re in such a high anabolic environment their muscles are already synthesizing as fast as possible.
at least AFAIK, because i dont really know much about sumos…
anyways, when looking at real world results and not using stupid examples i’d say that drugs are number 1, food is number 2, and training is number 3 when it comes to muscle size.
of course, looking nutrition and training in isolation is pretty stupid in the first place.
Yeah, I’m afraid I have to call bullshit on Sumo’s not training. Looks to me like you are just trying to troll or pick fights with ridiculous shit.
Sumo’s do a shitload of work by the looks of it.
You’ll have to try harder…
Discovery Channel: Sumo East and West
[i] Becoming a Sumo Wrestler
Sumo wrestling is not an occupation - it’s a way of life. It can take up to ten years to become a professional fighter, and requires a lifetime’s dedication.
Sumo wrestlers usually begin as teenagers. They join schools which teach the basics of Sumo, history, and technique. Scouts from professional Sumo ‘stables’ tour the schools to find the most promising recruits. The first criterion is weight. A Sumo wrestler weighs up to 280 kilos, so the scouts look for athletic boys with stocky builds and big bones. They do not recruit obese boys, because obesity often indicates lack of discipline, and the scouts do not believe they will be able to withstand the punishing Sumo regime.
Once the recruits are selected, they are committed to years of strict training. Sumo wrestlers are called rikishi. The youngest rikishi rise between 4 ? 5am. They begin with stretching and exercises.
The high ranking rikishi start training at around 9am. The junior rikishi assist them with their exercises or start preparing their meal.
Sumo Exercises
Shiko: A stomping exercise strengthens hips and legs. Most Rikishi do about 500 a day.
Teppo: An exercise for the arms and shoulders. A rikishi faces a large wooden pole and strikes it with the palms of his hands.
Suriashi: Another leg exercise, is performed in a crouching position with the arms bent at the elbows. The rikishi slides his feet forward, alternating legs.
Matawari: A stretching exercise, where a rikishi sits on the floor with his legs as far apart as possible, and then leans forward until his stomach touches the floor. Usually they require assistance, so, another rikishi will push him down farther or hold his legs apart.
Challenge Matches: These matches take place after warming up. They are just like the bouts you watch in tournaments, without the ceremonies. This is also an opportunity for lower ranked rikishi to challenge higher-ranked rikishi.
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Yeah, I’m afraid I have to call bullshit on Sumo’s not training. Looks to me like you are just trying to troll or pick fights with ridiculous shit.
Sumo’s do a shitload of work by the looks of it.
You’ll have to try harder…
Discovery Channel: Sumo East and West
[i] Becoming a Sumo Wrestler
Sumo wrestling is not an occupation - it’s a way of life. It can take up to ten years to become a professional fighter, and requires a lifetime’s dedication.
Sumo wrestlers usually begin as teenagers. They join schools which teach the basics of Sumo, history, and technique. Scouts from professional Sumo ‘stables’ tour the schools to find the most promising recruits. The first criterion is weight. A Sumo wrestler weighs up to 280 kilos, so the scouts look for athletic boys with stocky builds and big bones. They do not recruit obese boys, because obesity often indicates lack of discipline, and the scouts do not believe they will be able to withstand the punishing Sumo regime.
Once the recruits are selected, they are committed to years of strict training. Sumo wrestlers are called rikishi. The youngest rikishi rise between 4 ? 5am. They begin with stretching and exercises.
The high ranking rikishi start training at around 9am. The junior rikishi assist them with their exercises or start preparing their meal.
Sumo Exercises
Shiko: A stomping exercise strengthens hips and legs. Most Rikishi do about 500 a day.
Teppo: An exercise for the arms and shoulders. A rikishi faces a large wooden pole and strikes it with the palms of his hands.
Suriashi: Another leg exercise, is performed in a crouching position with the arms bent at the elbows. The rikishi slides his feet forward, alternating legs.
Matawari: A stretching exercise, where a rikishi sits on the floor with his legs as far apart as possible, and then leans forward until his stomach touches the floor. Usually they require assistance, so, another rikishi will push him down farther or hold his legs apart.
Challenge Matches: These matches take place after warming up. They are just like the bouts you watch in tournaments, without the ceremonies. This is also an opportunity for lower ranked rikishi to challenge higher-ranked rikishi.
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i get accused of trolling around here quite a bit.
anyways
shiko is stomping. they do about 500 a day. the stomping is sport specific and wont contribute a whole lot to fast-twitch muscle growth.
teppo is striking a pole. they’d hafta do a helluva lot of these to get huge from them due to the lack of eccentric, and their increasing bodyweight in arms will only build a little bit of muscle in their shoulder supporting structure.
suriashi is sliding your feet in front of you.
matarawi is a stretch. this will not induce muscle growth.
all this stuff sumos do is crap when it comes to muscle growth, and if you’ll look in the archives on this site you’ll find articles inwhich there is mention that 1) sumos dont train well at all, and 2) some guys get hyooj just because of their genes and the fact that they like food. but dont ask me to find those again cuz the time expended would be much.
anyways, none of this negates my point because sumos do spend most of their time eating and sleeping and doing nothing, and their training doesn’t provide that good of stimulus for muscle growth or caloric burn.
they get big cuz of the calorie surplus, genetics, and maybe drugs (kinda doubtful though due to leaning effects, but i dont know much about drugs anyways).
[quote]DPH wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
There’s tons of people out there who have some of the worst diets there are but who are strong as fuck.
They are called college athletes.
they’re getting plenty of calories and enough protein to make progress[/quote]
Yeah, well I guess I was under the assumption that you were getting enough calories, just through shitty food. It’s kind of a dumb point though, because why would you want to be without one or the other (as has been said before).
To be honest probably both. If you stopped now and ate a healthy diet and just did normal activities you wuold be muscle at a very very slow rate, almost stand still. Diet would have to be perfect.
If you worked out and ate like junk, probably much of the same.
[quote]Chinups wrote:
Ask yourself this. Which one cuold u do alone???
To be honest probably both. If you stopped now and ate a healthy diet and just did normal activities you wuold be muscle at a very very slow rate, almost stand still. Diet would have to be perfect.
If you worked out and ate like junk, probably much of the same.[/quote]
Are you high? If you just eat you would build zero muscle. Working out even with the shitiest diet imaginable would bring significant results.
What’s your kick, pot, shrooms, acid? Love acid but I think weed’s good for a general sooth if you don’t abuse it, because then it doesn’t work as well.