That is a great concept! Would the reverse order have any benefits?
I don’t know about the Leg Curl part, but a Seated CR and Standing CR (or Toe Press) superset is awesome. I do the Seated CRs slow, with a 3-sec static stretch at the bottom. From that dead stop, 1) accelerate to the top, 2) hold that static for 1 sec, and 3) lower slowly into the stretch position. I’ll do a 7-8 rep set of these that lasts 1:25-1:40.
After that, I move right over to the Standing machine* and do 15-20 rhythmic reps (but NO BOUNCING out of the bottom — momentary stop at the bottom and again accelerate to the top with a static contraction there)
[*On the Standing CR, you will only use 50-60% of the weight you’d use if it were the starting exercise]
Again we agree! I have a Nautilus Next Gen Seated Calf(which i am selling) which keeps your legs extended, and all the movement is done by your feet alone via a tilting plate
Reverse order?
Why not?
You may have need to adjust the resistance
FYI
It is important to flex the toes during static leg curls.
This leads to a severe lactic acid burn in the calves.
Awesome
Calf training is very important for women.
This is why a dress is the most important clothing ensemble a woman possesses!

We’ve got a leg guy! lol
Proves women are smarter!
No woman would like a man based on his legs!
Did you know that heels originate from aristocratic men using them to easier ride a horse, some hundreds of years ago? ![]()
Salute the man who introduced
to women
Many years ago Dr. Ellington Darden wrote of a famous baseball pitcher named Nolan Ryan. This particular pitcher was a powerful pitcher, and as Dr. Darden correctly surmised, Nolan Ryan placed enormous strain on opposing sides of his body while pitching. Dr. Darden was the only person to ever write about “contra-training,” contra meaning against. Dr. Darden used contra with right and left leg - only - calf training. This was done purposefully to facilitate recovery. This style of training has always intrigued me.
Reading Ken Hutchins’ Ultimate Exercise Protocol revealed one trainee who inroads so much he did only chins and leg press. I too have found the slow motion leg press starting very incrementally slow to be incredibly taxing. I decided to alternate leg press and calves. Even a set of calves done to complete failure led to heavy breathing and increased heart rate a few minutes after completed.
So instead of contra lateral, I went with uni-lateral only for one-legged calf raises.
I use the leg press for calf raises … up with 2 legs, remove one leg, slow 30 second eccentric with a STRAIGHT leg, then, back up with 2 BENT legs for much faster pulse reps till it burns, then, 30 second eccentric with one STRAIGHT leg.
I can’t find much on the internet by Dr. Darden regarding Contra-Lateral training. The only mention that turned up was in an Amazon review of his book with the title “Grow”, published in 1993. I gather he promoted something he called Contra-lateral training in that book? (I don’t own a copy, so I cannot confirm.)
Contra lateral training also doesn’t seem to be mentioned in his book The New Bodybuilding for Old School Results, which was his more recent and more comprehensive treatise on the HIT approach to training. So maybe this was an idea that he experimented with years ago, and then abandoned? Perhaps Dr. Darden can weigh in and give us an update on his current thinking regarding contra lateral methods.
Sounds like if i’m reading it right, you’re using negatives in those as much as lateral training. Fantastic way to add intensity, especially done super slow
High heels have caused woman more problems than you can shake a stick at!
Scott
They are a gold mine for podiatrists.
I was gonna say the same thng…most women that I know do not like heels, their feet are killing them at the end of the day
I haven’t used contra-lateral training in more than 20 years. I wrote about it in Bigger Muscles in 42 Days, which was published in 1992 (see pages 86-109). Contra-lateral training works your body in a criss-cross manner: one side of your upper body alternated with the other side of your lower body.
And yes, I originally designed it for Nolan Ryan when he pitched for the Texas Rangers.
Contra-lateral training was effective. But it was also cumbersome to keep up with and record your workout-by-workout specifics.
Most trainees did not want to prepare and take the necessary time to organize and progress through such workouts. So, in 2000 or so, I quit applying it.
Scott,
You are old enough to know better!
Quit shaking a stick at women’s legs! ![]()
Admire the beauty of the fairer sex!

And, fashion designers
Pretty much!
I gotta give a shout-out to Ken Hutchins! He helped me realize that I am an alpha trainee! I simply can’t tolerate much intense exercise conducted in a SuperSlow manner! YMMV! Please read The Ultimate Exercise Protocol! Other than his admission that he may be wrong on cardiovascular conditioning, his book is a must read!
I am a HiT “intensity junkie! Not-to-Failure will not even maintain muscle/strength for myself!
I have cut down on intensity for the neck. I cut forearm work out. Only worthwhile forearm exercises are hammer curls and neutral grip work. An extremely-slow parallel-grip pulldown eliminated all need for my separate forearm work. I lay off ab work. Every now and then I do the big 3 McGill core exercises and not to failure!
The recovery aspect is never practiced seriously! I am the exception. I can make my heart rate rise along with increased breathing rate by just one set of one leg calf raises.
We are bipedal humans. One legged training makes sense! Uni-lateral calf training is similar t contra-lateral calf training. Both facilitate recovery.
I press out with locked knees a sufficient resistance to do a extremely slow eccentric rep for ONE (1) leg. Then at the bottom I use bent legs to do several pulse reps (faster mid-range reps) until an intense burn sets in. Then, one final 1-leg 30-second eccentric with the same leg as previous. You cannot recover quickly from this. My
rate and breathing markedly increase! Fast twitch fibers were worked!

