[quote]desolator wrote:
Didn’t know the lats are divided in upper and lower half. Maybe by upper lats, you mean that small muscle under the armpit? Rhomboid I think it’s called, or maybe teres?[/quote]
Teres major. Does the same thing as the lats, just higher up on the back.
well, what do you think of just two excercises (to rotate each session)to death :-)???
maybe one for “thickeness” , enother for back “width”?
about volume; imo, if you really pull the weights (no matter of %,70 or 90% of your 1RM) until real failure then rest 10/30 sec then pull to death ,rest, and pull again with all your soul, you don’t have much energy/will/atp to do again, you rest five minutes -you really need 5 minutes imo- and then move to enother excercise (in which you 'll use a 15/30% ligheter load if you use this excercise for first…) to perform to death (like first excercise).
after the second set -if you really hammer your body- you just wanna come back home,muscles fibers are well damnaged,rest,eat and wait until you feel ready for enother battle (3,4,5 days).
if you wait enough you 'll see in next training section a little improvement in reps/load or tul.
this means your damnaged muscles get new scar tissue (microns?) to cover the damnages (hypertrophya).
I see the difference in training lats and upper back (trapezio,romboideo,infraspinato etc etc), however, heavy compound (multi-joints) excercices ,very IMO, take care also of assistance muscles.
I never trained traps,never did shrugs , just rowing/tbar/pulldowns but my traps are there (of course if you wanna Ronnie Coleman traps is enother story; genetic PLUS huge amount of steroids).
Okuma, about deads,I did it for years because of football but I found my back improved without them , so, don’t feel embarazed for NOT deadlifting LOL