Trainer Re-Created The Colorado Experiment

Yeah even though they are posed differently, you can see some more thickness in the upper body of the first two, particularly Petrella. Although the different poses make it very hard to evaluate how much was gained and the lack of flexing in the lower body makes it hard to notice any positive changes if there were any. Also the bottom guy seems like he made literally no change. Probably too high of a Bodyfat percentage to begin with to be optimally primed for building any muscle in a short time frame. I really hope they have some better evaluation photos somewhere lol

I see wider lats and thicker chest in the bottom 2 pics

Do you see anything regarding that guy’s waist?

Yes, it’s thicker too

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It seems the top guys before a he’s poking his chest out/standing at attention and his after a he’s somewhat hunched forward.

Middle guy seems to be standing somewhat at attention for the before and seems pretty dang bent over and flexing for the after.

The last guy definitely seems like he did eat a lot as you mentioned.

Strong table muscle lol

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Pics can be deceiving I will say that, I am sure it’s hard to replicate the before pic with an after pic a month later…therefore I try to give the benefit of the doubt

It’s very easy. I’ve done it myself with a 6 year old holding the camera lol

This was already pointed out though, maybe in 1992 it would have been hard, but in 2021 it’s not. They are already in the same room with same clothing (basically). Posture is an easy one.

looks at before picture hey billy, quit hunching, just stand normal - boom. Successful after photo.

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They all seem to have similar differences in posing too. Kinda like they were coached for the before and after pictures. I think the 3rd guy may have not been following the Colorado experiment, his looks more like the Jones routine (and I mean Alex not Arthur).

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Also, if you’re adding 10-14lbs of muscle in this short of time, why isn’t everybody doing it? Hell, from what I’ve seen most of the members who came from dardens original forum aren’t even running the programs he offers to a T. Most are butchering them and adding subtracting or just dabbling here and there with it.

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Agreed :joy:

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I followed Arnold and Franco’s program back in the 80s…gained nothing, followed Lee Haneys program in the 90s, gained nothing…followed Yates program in the 2000s and got very strong and fat…followed Mentzers heavy duty and got deconditioned and fat…took a few year layoff because I was frustrated that never gained on any program…started, Dardens Hit and started losing the fat, gone from 225 to 205 in 3 years, imo that’s progress for me

As for the Colorado experiment…its too hard and can only be performed for about a month because of the systemic draining of the body, then you need a week off before trying a different program

No program is perfect

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This guy is not in the above photos, did he perform the experiment???

No that’s online news ā€œInfowarsā€ host Alex Jones, that’s a before and after photo he took for his supplement, Super Male Vitality. It’s gained some online notoriety and is something of a meme at this point. He’s just making a joke

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That was just a joke. Alex Jones sells supplements and runs a propaganda based news show (IIRC, it was on YouTube recently, but got removed). He is the gay frogs guy if you have heard of that.

A few years back he posted this transformation to sell some product. He quickly got roasted as there is not much change other than his skin color.

:laughing:…i thought I heard that name before

First of all I’m a Nautilus and Jones nut but even so when the first and original Colorado experiment came out I said it was a fraud. Viator had lost tons of weight due to an accident and Jones capitalized on a guy who was already big before the accident and tried to make it appear his gains were all from the experiment. As for this new Colorado experiment I have some of the same concerns voiced in the thread. What really is the problem here , if there is one , is some of the responses like this.
ā€œ what even is a Nautilus machine?
It’s the Scientology of resistance training!
Or
What even is a Nautilus machine? Sounds like something from the Matrix Trilogy?
That’s fine by me As I don’t care what people think of Nautilus but let’s not act like nothing disparaging was said.

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So you draw the line at comparisons using wild/exotic/dramatic religions, but not wild/dramatic/exotic movies lol

I think they’re just having some lighthearted fun. The comments have given me a pretty good laugh. If the pictures had been taken better, the teasing probably wouldn’t be so bad, and even so, it’s pretty light and seems to be all in good fun

Hello All,

I was recently tagged in this post and apparently haven’t been on the forum in 8 years. Is Professor X still around? lol. Only the old school guys will get that.
I will do my best to try and explain some of the details with what we did. It’s been very surprising all the places this case study has showed up on the internet.

First the photos. We just tried to take photos standing with the same background in as close to the same spot as we could. They were taken on our phones and if someone tilted differently, or stood differently it was completely accidental. We certainly aren’t professionals in this regard.

I was recently asked to do a podcast in which I explained before this we had performed 2 other case studies. At are gym ā€œSTG Strength and Powerā€ we are constantly trying to learn new things along with understand more and more about the rich history of the Iron Game. The first case study was 10 week were volume was increased over 5 weeks, then dropped down and increased again over the second 5 weeks. So basically every exercise done for 2 sets week 1, 3 sets, 4 sets week 3 etc. Essentially increasing demands via volume in an attempts to strategically overreach.
Unfortunately we had little to show for our efforts.

The second involved a routine from a gentlemen who is a friend and use to manage the World gym’s in California during their hay day in the 80’s. I had worked with him many years ago to attain good results and wanted to catch up with his latest research. The program included a lot of high rep work, occlusion training and the use of compression garments. The training was very uncomfortable but the pumps were incredible. However yet again after those 8 weeks I believe it was we were surprised we had little to show for it.

The Colorado experiment came to be because we believe we are the only gym in the world that can re-create it workout for workout and we were shutdown under are second lockdown order. We were told we couldn’t work for a month and the Colorado experiment for those who don’t know took a month. The biggest logistical challenge is getting spotters. Again for those who don’t know the routines involve a heavy emphasis on negative only sets. Even an averagely strong person would need two people in most cases to lift the resistance to you so the lifter can then lower. You would be surprised how quickly you can lose friends/training partners with this protocol. There are special Nautilus machines we have where you use the strength of your legs to move the weight to you so you can lower with your upper body. At the gym we have Flex, Pendulum, Hammer, Iron Core, Nebula, Westside, MEDX all the free weights you could ask for from Ivanko but the Old Nautilus will always be my first love. Especially if you are a taller lifter.

The results were surprising to us as well. I will try to answer some of the questions and address some of the comments. The lowest weight gain was 8 lbs and the highest was 14 lbs. Myself and the youngest trainee both but a quarter inch on our waists for that amount of weight gain. I am not sure who claimed it was all muscle. All we ever said was we were happy with what we accomplished over the month. As for the legs all 3 of us did increase circumference in the upper leg. However results there did lack behind the upper body. Several of the last half routines would only involve 1 or 2 sets of lower body work. Normally a set of Nautilus Duo-Squat at the very end. As hard as the routine was to get through we all noted more lower body work would have been ideal. Also no direct calf work is performed during the experiment. Not sure why but we did the program verbatim as it was done in 73. If I could take the photos over again I would take a lower camera angle to show the legs a bit better.

As for selling something. We have not sold any product or routine or e-book in regards to this. If you were to come to our gym you would train very hard, safe and on what we believe is some of the best equipment anywhere. The majority of our client base has orthopedic concerns and we have moved more to a medical model over the past few years. We were asked to send all information to a University in the UK which we did that will include all measurements, all training logs including every set, weight and time it took to do the routines. I also personally tracked everything I ate on MyfitnessPal so that can all be seen to. They hope to put it in an open source journal so everyone can read it free of charge.

For those who are skeptical by all means stay that way. It’s the best way to be in fitness world. Heck when I started in the early 2000’s everyone and do mean everyone was on a wobble board. lol. For those who are interested take a look at incorporating more negative only and negative accentuated sets into your routine. Before doing this case study I would have thought they were overrated. They can be done intensely, safely and they worked well for us. The 3 of us were mid 20, mid 30’s and mid 40’s which we felt was a nice bonus instead of just using a bunch of motivated 20 year old’s and can do and recover from almost anything.

Try it out. It’s hard as hell. It worked for us and I still don’t want to go through it again. We do have a very motivated young women who is going to attempt it and we look forward to seeing what happens to her.

All the best to all of you. Good Training.

Michael

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