I’ve noticed that when the anxiety gets really bad taking dim seems to reduce it, however after doing that a few days in a row the effects seem to have started diminishing. Still really oily and my ring is now getting tight on my finger. Resting heart rate even while sleeping has gone up now so I suspect elevated estrogen. Just feel really foggy and tired in general. I’m going to test total/free t and e2 tomorrow now that things should be leveled out.
The question though is- with these symptoms, if my estrogen comes back high how should I change my protocol? The test level seems right as I’m not overly aggressive and my dick works now. So I really would rather avoid lowering it.
I have both arimidex and aromasin at my house, which one would be better to use? I’m thinking aromasin but regardless since I’m doing daily I would dissolve either in vodka and take an equal amount daily with my injection. What would be a good starting dose? Depends entirely on the e2 level I suppose?
I’ve heard about this anxiety so many times from so many men. The only solution I have heard from two or three gents with the same issues were their dose was too low and the other was thyroid was needing help.
Other was switching to the cream helps. Check out JP he recently posted. I think for him it was the oil. He tried many doses and waited months each time.
His excersize tolerance, anxiety; sleep issues never resolved. We got him on the scrotal cream. He started with 1 click and is now on 2. He has zero issues today. That’s after two years of hell using cypionate.
I’m still not against the cream at all, however if I recall my current urologist only prescribes enanthate and cypionate (not sure about the cream, this is just what the nurse said). I’m trying not to rock the boat with him too much yet. Still don’t have a great read on him, however I know he tests shgb and estradiol, hematocrit and what not so that’s a good sign.
Overall I’m feeling better than I did when I started. I feel that things are getting a bit better however I’m just not quite “there” yet. I’ve noticed the anxiety I used to have 8-12 hours after injection is not something I notice very much anymore so that’s nice. But with how hot and sweaty and bloated I’m feeling I have a very strong feeling my e2 lab will come back at least somewhat elevated. It was last tested at 32.5 however that was four weeks in, leaving two weeks of build up after that before reaching a steady state. An extra 200mg or so of testosterone is bound to raise that 32.5 up I think. Probably sitting in the mid 40s if I had to guess.
Basically I want to do everything I can on the injections first before switching to creams. I’ve tried all the different oils however I’m open to the fact that could still be a cause. Now that t should be stable I want to try getting estrogen between 22-30 to see what difference that makes, if any. That way I have all the data points to take to my urologist to show him that the cream may potentially work better. Honesty if it did that would be great but just want to make sure first. Injections are incredibly cheap with my insurance.
Bro 20-30 won’t help. 40+. Look around and see how well the guys with 40+ are doing versus men at 20-30.
I have Paypal. I’ll bet 100$ to a total stranger that you will not resolve symptoms at that range friend.
Still haven’t taken an AI and I’ll take your word for it.
Strangely enough, yesterday and today my libido has absolutely exploded. It’s almost too much. I’m curious to see what my test results are (measured yesterday). Can’t even get work done, just thinking about nasty shit at work all day. I haven’t felt like this in forever. I need my heart to behave this time around because I could definitely get used to this
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How long should I wait before maybe checking with defy or somewhere about my thyroid? Libido is good and strength is up but I feel dog tired all day. Even with 8 hours sleep. It’s hard just to keep my eyes open half the time, really so it’s effecting me quite negatively. I forced myself to the gym today and did the rowing machine for about 40 minutes but just felt mentally tired the whole way through. It’s like my mind and body have switched places in terms of energy levels
So I got my labs back and I’m confused. It seems my TT has skyrocketed while my free testosterone has gone down a few points, indicating an issue with shbg. Why is my shbg jumping so high suddenly? Thyroid related? Input would be much appreciated
@enackers do you have any idea what is up here?
Could be lab error as well. Before making any drastic changes it may be helpful to do a second round of bloods just to be sure.
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Did you time the lab differently than last time? I wouldn’t worry too much. Even if free t is that high you are totally fine. Guys cycle for months at a time and keep free t way above 50. I would take another test and double check.
The lab was done within an hour of the last one, but the first one was done 4 weeks in while this one was done 7 weeks in. So at four weeks it makes sense that my TT wasn’t at its final level for this dose.
All I’m worried about is the fact that my shbg would have had to had almost doubled within 3-4 weeks for this to happen. Not really sure how it relates… does prolactin have anything to do with shbg? Just trying to figure out if it has something to do with the fatigue really
Also concerned about a lower free t in relation to the higher estradiol
Re-test or you’re going to have constant anxiety over something that may not even be real
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Same tests or is it worth adding shbg?
Re-do the ones you aren’t sure are correct and add some other stuff in there as well. Can’t hurt
Sounds good, getting blood drawn tomorrow to retest testosterone and estradiol along with CBC, lipids (have not been checked for a while), prolactin and shbg
It seems my body is going crazy, no idea how to interpret this guys
It may help to remind everyone what your protocol is and what was changed recently.
The labs don’t look crazy. Seems like the usual high SHBG labs with high total T, not high free T, mid range E2.
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Mentally good, stronger in the gym. Also a bit puffy, still having stomach issues. Morning wood doesn’t really show up unless I have to pee and I’m not super horny or anything most of the time. Just don’t want to sprout gyno again because that surgery is too expensive for me to do twice
