Total Body VS. Split

I am opening this thread in hopes of getting other posters opinions on total body routines versus split routines. My main question on the subject would be, “are there times when split routines or total body routines would be more effective for accomplishing a certain goal.”

Might total body training be more effective for someone trying to lose fat or might split routines be more effective for someone who is trying to prioritize a certain strength quality(such as training for strength or correct imbalances).

I have had trouble deciding between which type of routine to do based on a given goal. Would one work better when trying to accomplish one thing and maybe another work better while trying to accomplish another. This is my delema.

I am hoping some other posters out there might share there opinions about which type of routine worked best for them while trying to accomplish a certain goal. Figuring out where you are and where you want to go seem to me to be the first two things a trainee would seek before entering into or choosing a program. Once they find that is would be reasonable to assume the next thing to figure out would be how to get there.

I hope some of those magnificent, smart, articulate, and just dam cool strength coaches here on T-Nation could share there opinions on the matter, but hopefully some other posters out there will have some insight as well.

Thanks in advance.

Noi simple answer. Both can be great for all goals. It depends on how they are set up. The parameters.

Sorry but you could use a 7 day a week split with the right volume and load. or a 3 or 2 day a week total body program to in a sense shoot for the same goal.

The thing I find is to switch it up from time to time. keeps nthings fresh and working

Just my 2 cc,

Phill

[quote]brotzfrog10 wrote:
I am opening this thread in hopes of getting other posters opinions on total body routines versus split routines. My main question on the subject would be, “are there times when split routines or total body routines would be more effective for accomplishing a certain goal.”

Might total body training be more effective for someone trying to lose fat or might split routines be more effective for someone who is trying to prioritize a certain strength quality(such as training for strength or correct imbalances).

I have had trouble deciding between which type of routine to do based on a given goal. Would one work better when trying to accomplish one thing and maybe another work better while trying to accomplish another. This is my delema.

I am hoping some other posters out there might share there opinions about which type of routine worked best for them while trying to accomplish a certain goal. Figuring out where you are and where you want to go seem to me to be the first two things a trainee would seek before entering into or choosing a program. Once they find that is would be reasonable to assume the next thing to figure out would be how to get there.

I hope some of those magnificent, smart, articulate, and just dam cool strength coaches here on T-Nation could share there opinions on the matter, but hopefully some other posters out there will have some insight as well.

Thanks in advance.[/quote]

I think the main factor for most people in choosing split vs. total body is recovery time. If you recover fairly quickly and/or have enough time in your schedule for recovery, then full body workouts would probably be the way to go. Afterall, your body does function as a single unit, why not exercise that way if the opportunity is there? Just my humble opinion.

I started a total body routine about six months ago, and have very positive opinions about it.

Number one, I have noticed less joint pain (knees and shoulders), presumably because of a greater variety of exercises.

Number two, I have notice my basic lifts all increase at a greater rate than anytime in the last four years (although I strained my shoulder/deltoids fairly nicely recently, which is setting me back a bit on bench and the oly lifts).

Number three, it is allowing me to devote more time to the oly lifts each week.

My basic template is three days a week. I do a pulling movement (clean, snatch, deadlift), a squatting movement (back squat, front squat, overhead squat, pistols, bulgarian squats, or step ups), a hamstring movement (GHR, good mornings, romanian deadlifts), then a pressing movement (bench, db bench, dips, ring presses, ec.), then a back movement (pull ups, bent rows, seated rows, ring rows).

One day a week I will double up squat exercises, the next hamstring exercises or oly movements, and the next day pressing movements. I occassionaly add an overhead press (snap press, push press, military, etc.) but only infrequently.

On a fourth day of the week, I will do some moderate cardio, followed by light “supplemental work” such as kettlebells, 4-way neck machine, turkish get ups, additional pull ups, calves, etc.

I also train martial arts two to three days per week, and modify my loads and volume to accommodate this, and how I feel generally.

In short, since going to whole body routine, I think I have generally increased my weekly training load and training volume, while reducing my load and volume for a given muscle group or movement during any given workout. I have improved in total strength, and reduced the amount of joint pain and muscle soreness.

I have been doing full body workouts for over 15 years and I love them. I think guys think that you have to train the whole body as hard in one session as you would if you split up the body into parts. This is not the case.

What happens is that even though you are doing a full body program, certain parts of the body get nailed a lot harder than others. You do compound stuff for certain areas and assistance or isolation for others. Then on the next workout, you simply rotate the areas of focus. I call my plan a “Reverse Push-Pull” and will give some details

The reverse push-pull routine is not so much a routine as it is a template of a routine, which can be tailored to meet the needs of the individual. The basic objective of this template is to combine compound movements with assistance/isolation movements in a full body workout.

The templates are as follows:

Day “A” 1st part of workout: Compound Pushing Movements, Presses, Dips, and Squats

2nd part of workout: Assistance/Isolation Movements for Back, Biceps and Hamstrings

calves, abs, & stretching

Day “B” 1st part of workout: Compound Pulling Movements, Rows, Cleans, Deadlifts, Chins

(*Note: For the past few months I have started the B session with overhead squats-it seems to be a great warm-up)

2nd part of workout: Assistance/Isolation Movements for Chest, Shoulders, Triceps & Quads

calves, abs, & stretching

On the compound movements, do straight sets to near positive failure or until targeted reps are achieved. Keep written records of every set and rep and strive to increase weight and reps whenever possible. Select any exercises you like as long as they are compound movements. On the “A” day, I prefer incline presses, narrow grip bench presses, overhead presses, full squats & front squats. If I want some variety, I can substitute JM presses for the narrow grip presses or I can do the narrow grip presses from the bottom position in the power rack.

On the “B” day, I prefer bent over rows, high pulls, deadlifts, power shrugs, hyperextensions and hammer curls.

You can put these movements in any order you desire or can rotate them on a regular basis. I have found that if I do my presses first, I still have plenty of energy to do my squats, but if I squat first, then my overall energy and strength is greatly diminished and my presses suffer as a result.

On the assistance/isolation movements you select a couple of exercises and perform them in more of a “bodybuilding fashion” which can include supersets, drop sets, pre-exhaust, etc. You can also use compound movements combined with isolation movements such as performing strict lateral raises followed immediately by overhead presses to failure or leg extensions followed by non-lock front squats. An aspiring powerlifter can use the assistance/isolation time to strengthen their sticking points, perform power rack exercises, grip work and targeted tricep and lat work.

The workouts are performed in a sequential fashion, meaning you perform the “A” session, rest as needed, then perform “B”, rest as needed and repeat. I have always believed in having flexibility in your rest and recovery times. Just because 72 hours have passed, does not necessarily mean you have fully recovered from your last workout. You have to factor in the quality of your food intake, your rest, stress levels

In addition I do two conditioning workouts per week, which are normally done the day after a lifting session. On these days I run, jump rope, sled dragging, keg lifting, anything that missed on the previous day, ie some grip work or some Olympic technique work.

I have had great results with this plan.

Keith Wassung