TOT ExperiMENT Log

Dimer is basically impurity. So it’s a piece of the amino acid chain that wasn’t replicated correctly and as such it cannot be recognized by the body. So a GH that tests at 99.2% purity with .8% dimer is of really high quality. It’s unlikely to cause any additional side effects because of that. If it comes in at 3% dimer then expect skin irritation, red welts, lots of water retention, etc.

The tests aren’t faked if they’re coming from the well known guys. Both are in a country in Europe where steroids are legal and they do most of the testing for the UGL market. I can order 120iu kits right now with <1% dimer, verified by multiple tests, for a very reasonable price. Now it wasn’t made in a GMP facility and it’s not anywhere near pharma grade, but it’s a good enough replica of what GH should be.

So I listed only the values that were originally out of range. Everything else has always been in range and continues to be.

My conclusion is twofold.

MENT is a fully functioning replacement for testosterone.

Testosterone-induced erythrocytosis cannot be avoided for some of us. My HCT before I started trt was 51. I was always bound to be one of the guys who couldn’t use test for life.

This, for me at least, would be the reason. My work focuses on extractables & leachables in a pharmaceutical company and most of my job is identification- i.e., determining the molecular structure- of impurities in drug products and developing methods to quantify them. I’ve seen some nasty impurities, and also some unsettling data from ICP-MS or -OES (used to identify and quantify heavy metals) when a synthetic route is still in the R&D stages.

Considering this, keep in mind that injection into the body essentially bypasses most (if not almost all) of the body’s natural defense mechanisms. UGL gear is much more likely to have impurities than GMP-regulated pharmaceuticals.

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Has your blast begun? How is it going so far? What dosages did you settle on?

It has. I’ll update tomorrow.

Ment seems difficult and/or expensive to acquire in Australia

A friend of mine was looking around, he wanted some to dose his pet hippopotaus with it yet couldn’t find any within a reasonable price range.

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I would add tren to increase aggression. They are such a sweat non violent animal, a bit of tren at least helps them stand up for themselves.

What is the cost to import one from Africa? In the US, we can get them from Columbia. They are an issue there as an invasive species, so you can get them on the cheap. These all come from Pablo Escobar’s private Hippos that escaped after his death.

Pablo Escobar's hippos have invaded Colombia's waterways and need to be culled, study says, which are not native to Colombia, were,a private zoo at his Hacienda Nápoles ranch.

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Well, in Australia you have two choices: get raws and make your own, or don’t be poor.

Seriously, MENT is at least $100 a vial in the States, I can only imagine what you guys have to pay for it.

Scientific update

Alright, blast began a little over two weeks ago.

Primo 450/w
MENT 7.5mg/d

The MENT will be steadily moved up basically until I feel side effects. Tomorrow I hop up to 10mg, expecting around 15-20 is where I’ll have to stop. But that’s a guess based on what I’ve experienced so far.

Primo is low for now because I had to trash my whole previous supply due to extreme pip. So I’m slowly adding to my stockpile and I’ll likely move up to the 600-650 range within the next few weeks. We shall see.

GH gets added next week (hopefully). Probably start at 3iu eod and move up to 4-5-6 depending on sides. Not looking for a lot from the GH, just a little better recovery and maybe some visceral fat loss.

Sort of going with a recomp, but I don’t like that word because it implies something specific. The plan is to eat a little below maintenance for another few weeks, assess what the results are, and then move more into a sort of maingaining phase. Again, we shall see.

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Do you still have them? Could you reheat them, or mix them with a carrier oil to dilute them down. If I had primo with crazy pip, I would try cutting it until I could tolerate it. It is just so expensive to trash. I guess if you got down to like 25 mg/mL, I would just trash it (too much oil to inject).

Interested to see if any sides arise at the higher dosage. (hopefully not for your sake) I will be starting my MENT around the end of April after my TRT doc bloods. Was planning on running around 10-12mg/day. Will keep a tiny bit of test alongside. Haven’t decided if i will run anything else with it or not. I seem to be a pretty high converter so will be interesting to see if I develop any estrogen issues. Exited to see how this goes for you.

It has been two weeks since I pinned that batch, ventrogluteal. I have two hard knots still. The first nine days I couldn’t sleep on that side. No amount of diluting will make it serviceable, unfortunately.

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What was the concentration? I’m currently on 600/wk (pinned M/T)of 100mg/ml and it’s a lot of volume to pin. Super smooth though. Don’t even know it’s there.Trying to locate 200mg/ml but having no luck domestic. Done with ordering from overseas. Too much time and risk.

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Bummer man. I recently tried pinning quads. No pip, then like 2-3 days later I was like WTF is going on with my leg. At a certain point the gains just are not worth it.

Concentration is 200mg/ml, but that’s not the issue. You can get primo to hold at 225-250 with minimal solvents in MCT. Hell, the stuff I have now is 225 and it’s painless. The problem is the old stuff was made with EO and guaiacol, for reasons that are still unclear to me. And those two together are like straight fire into your muscle.

Mine is also 200mg/ml. I’m nervous to pin it but I was told it is painless. I’ll be running a very similar cycle but not starting until May. I’ll be interested in following this. I think I’m going to start the HGH at 2iu/day for 3-4 weeks, then 3iu, then 4iu max. I really don’t want a lit of water retention or carpal tunnel. I already have mild carpal tunnel.

Yeah the carpal tunnel is the one I’m trying to avoid. I wouldn’t love to be bloated, but I can handle that for a few weeks of it happens. But definitely being careful with the dose and not going to crazy at first.

Are you going to monitor your A1C? That’s another reason I want to start low. I ordered some Berberine which I am going to supplement during the cycle. Hoping it doesn’t give the same gastro issues metformin is known for.

It did for me, but I read that supposedly taking it 30 minutes prior to consuming anything was a way to avoid that. Never tried it though, gave up after the constant trips to the bathroom 30 seconds after eating anything lol

When I started the HGH i had to pin it three times per week at higher doses. Doing that I experienced water and a bit or carpel. Once I was able to pin daily even though using the same IU’s per week both the water and carpel are gone.

Sourced in the US?