TOT ExperiMENT Log

Yes sir

Most US sources make primo at 200mg/ml now. No reason to hold back when they know that everyone wants to avoid pinning a whole liter of oil every week.

Ill have to look around a little more. I’ve only seen one place that has it but it ships from Europe. Are we allowed to say a brand name here?

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Pinning 5mg of Test at 200mg/ml would be .025ml…

@iron_yuppie what is the concentration of your MENT?

I made the first batch at 50mg/ml. Will likely make two more batches, one lower for trt, and one at this same concentration for blasting.

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What about lipids/BP/HCT and the impact MENT may have on these parameters?

Within the last few bloods you’ve posted your lipids have been sub-par. Not horrible… But certainly not optimal.

All my numbers improved on MENT vs on testosterone. If they go wonky again on blast it wouldn’t be much different than if I had simply stayed on regular trt. After the blast is over I’ll drop back down to an even lower dose of the MENT for cruise and we’ll see where everything is. I also have bloods scheduled for May (or June? Have to check my calendar) and that’ll give me an idea of how the blast is impacting numbers.

Just thought this was interesting… especially 1:40 area…

Edit: this was 3/2020…

What would you consider as such a dose? The studies done used very low amounts, more than 10x less than you are currently using. Even 5 mg seems to be high. Also, besides libido, do you feel any mood or cognition side effects? Other 19-nors as you know have a strong impact on the CNS.

Just curious.

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I did 2.5mg before and likely will go down to 1mg and see how that works. At that dose I may need to add something like 50-100mg of primo each week. The lack of DHT wasn’t an issue for a few weeks at a time, but eventually it would become noticeable. Still plan to run multiple more experiments over the next year.

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From what I recall dosages looking at androgen replacement were unable to acquire maintenance regarding bone mineral density. Perhaps dosing was too conservative?

It seems a replacement dose in theory would be around 350-700mcg/day given literature that exists and relative compound potency. Perhaps this doesn’t play out within real world application. Perhaps a higher dose (i.e 1mg/day) would be required for adequate replacement?

Go to Reddit and you’ll see guys ramming 350-700mg/wk of this stuff…

From what I’ve been able to ascertain, any amount of primo/mast is enough to drop HDL; particularly within those predisposed #me.

I’ve always been curious to trial this as a TRT substitute at around 1mg/day. See the impact it has on lipids, fasting glucose, LFT’s, kidney function, haematological parameters

Possible, that’s why I wanted to get yuppies opinion on this. Could very well be that 500 mcg is not enough.

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Any updates on how this is going? I’m on the fence right now. Have trest on hand but can’t decide if I wanna run it over the summer or save it for winter bulk. Do you feel it’s a good addition to a lean gain cycle? Was considering doing ment, HGH and EQ together or EAQ and mast with my trt and saving the ment for winter. Thoughts?

So MENT and GH is going to be a no from me. I tried it and my BP spiked to 180/110 within three days. I know another guy who had the same response. For now I am putting a skull and crossbones on that combination, at least until I get a handle on how those two are causing that reaction.

I would not under any circumstance run EQ and mast while on just trt. That is a one way ticket to Miseryville.

Use the MENT. It’s amazing. Don’t go crazy with the dose, don’t make it too complicated, just use it and pack on size. I can elaborate as much as you’d like, so any specific questions you have feel free to ask.

Hypertensive crisis, did you see a doc or present to the ER?

I might be able to get away with the TRT dose or a little higher. Maybe 250.wk. I’m a super converter. What do you think about running the MENT with EQ and Mast? Was thinking MENT at 10mg/day or so with mast at 200-400/week and EQ at 800/week. I’m currently on 2mg/day of HGH and would either leave it there or bump up to 4mg/day. The test I would either leave at TRT or bump up if I needed to.
So back to your cycle. How are you feeling? How is the Primo treating you? I believe it’s your first time cycling it? I enjoyed my primo cycle and will def be utilizing it again. I believe you are in a cut? How is that going? I always have a hard time cutting on cycle. I usually aim for leam gains or full out bulk. Any sides from MENT?