Torn Between Scylla and Charybdis

[quote]chobbs wrote:

[quote]trivium wrote:
My time on the Oreo challenge was 16 minutes and 55 seconds.[/quote]
Please give the rules because I have an upcoming cheat meal lol[/quote]

The only rules are that you cannot pull the cookie apart, and you cannot dunk it in milk. Dave Tate posted times in an article on eliteFTS that will give you your lifter classification.

You can however drink as much milk as you want.

Also, it isn’t too bad. If you do regular Oreos it is just under 2000 calories.

Lift from 1/24/14.

Squat
5xBW
5x45
5x135
5x185
3x225
5x285
3x325 (Not super heavy feeling. Carried bar a bit higher for this by accident.)
4x365 (Big PR. No fail. Previous best was 2x360. Spotter said all were deep. Fell forward a bit on last rep.)
1x365 (Had others judge depth, and I got it. Fell forward a bit on this rep, but all said it was deep.)
3x325 (Felt heavy.)
5x285 (Again, felt heavy.)

Leg Press
10x400
10x490
10x600 (This was 10x580 last week.)
5x690 (This was 4x670 last week.)

I am very happy with this lift. I have never squattted over 360 before, so anything with 365 would have been a PR. I just didn’t think it would go as well as it did. It was an exceptional day. I felt strong with 365 for some reason (maybe better sleep and nutrition over the last few days?). I didn’t get all these failure thoughts today either. I just went at it. I actually chalked my back for this lift. I think it helped me keep the bar in one spot better. Gotta work on my form though. I haven’t weighed myself in forever. I don’t feel like I look sloppy though, so I suppose it doesn’t matter. Narrowed my stance a tiny bit for squats today. Also used a bar with knurling in the center this time. The bar was stiffer too. I am genuinely pleased with how 365 felt. I didn’t feel like I was being crushed, and I was able to get good breaths before my reps.

For leg press, I moved my feet out an inch or two. Not sure if this is responsible for the increase or not. I did my best, and that is good enough for me. I am thankful to finally know that I made the 3.5 plate squat, and that I got it for a single after I had already driven myself into the ground with it a few minutes prior. I am going to wait to say whether or not this is an every day max though.

I may do some stretching an mobility work tomorrow. I have to move home, and I want to do the “limber 11” if I can. Some of my joints are feeling a tiny bit beat up. Nothing serious, just achey every now and then in some positions.

I measured my squat stance. It is between 18 and 19.5 inches. That is where I felt comfortable at with bodyweight squats today.

I hope to catch up on everyone’s logs in the next day or so.

Good night everyone. Thanks for reading!

Damn dude. You are like a good knee wrap away from squatting 440.

[quote]csulli wrote:
Damn dude. You are like a good knee wrap away from squatting 440.[/quote]

Thanks man. I am starting to worry about my knee a bit. I made a thread in the injuries and rehab section. It isn’t stopping me in my tracks with pain, but I want to be cautious.

I have never used wraps or a belt. I am thinking that I may wait until my second or third meet to check them out(assuming this knee thing is nothing major).

Here is my lift from 1/28/13.

Exercise bike for 5 minutes.

Active range of motion in right knee and basic squatting with body weight.

Squat
5x40
5x130
5x180
5x220 (All felt good. Form was great. No pain or popping. Will repeat this on regular basis.)

Bench Press
5x45
30x45
5x135
3x160
5x200
3x225
6x250 (Very paused. No fail.)
3x225 (Elbows started to feel a bit beat up.)
5x200

Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
80 lb dumbbells for sets of 10/10/10/10/5 (These felt very light and easy.)

Kroc Row
110 lb dumbbell (biggest ones they had) for sets of 15/15/15/10/5.
(Had some pain with my knee having it on a bench, so for the set of 5 I just leaned over on the bench rather than putting my knee up on it.)

Felt good. I have seen two doctors for my knee in the last 3 days. I will update that later on.

I will lift later tonight at 8 or so and I will put up more about my knee.

Since my triceps/elbows felt beat up (probably from squatting) I may go a bit easier today with my typical triceps work. My legs are still sore as hell from squatting.

Thanks for reading. I have a few forums I still have to catch up on and post in, but otherwise I am catching up!

Oh shit I didn’t even realize you were doing all that beltless. Dude your squat is fucking good.

[quote]csulli wrote:
Oh shit I didn’t even realize you were doing all that beltless. Dude your squat is fucking good.[/quote]
Yeah holy crap man. A belt definitely gives a good amount of poundage on the squat. You can definitely smash over 405 with a belt and healthy knees.

Here’s a good joke.

How will you know if someone lifts without a belt?

He will tell you.

I went to visit an orthopedic surgeon. When I told him I lift weights, he treated me like I was a moron, and even asked me “why would anyone want to do that?” He also asked my girlfriend “where did you find this guy?” When he decided that I wasn’t a surgical candidate, and that he couldn’t make a quick buck off of me he told me that I have “generalized ligamentous laxity,” chronic patellofemoral syndrome, and that I should never deadlift or squat to depth again (to cover his own ass). He didn’t do shit with his physical exam, and didn’t even refer me to PT or anything. Basically gave me a big fuck you and shuffled me out the door.

I called a sports medicine complex that has PT and an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in sports medicine. He said I need to have a referral. I went to see my PCP and he said that since I am an athlete he wants to help me fix everything up so I can go back to what I love. I am scheduled for an MRI and am pending a referral to the complex that has the PT and sports med surgeon.

Thanks for reading guys. It is motivating for me to be able to network with everyone on here and keep up with your logs.

Yesterday’s lift (1/29/14).

T-Bar Row
10x25
10x50
10x75
10x100
10x125
10x150
10x175 (Some back was involved in this lift.)
10x150
10x150 (For the last two reps my partner stood on the bar to add extra weight haha.)
10x125
10x125
10x100
10x100
10x100
10x100

Rope Push Down
10x50
10x50
10x50
10x50
10x40
10x40
10x40
10x40
10x30
10x30

Did 5 minutes on exercise bike to get some blood to my knee. I can’t really even say that it was uncomfortable. I am going to do some more today. Maybe I will go get some items to do the limber 11, and some RTC work. I need to be more proactive about this stuff. I don’t want to get all messed up.

Had a tiny bit of discomfort with my triceps, but that was expected as I mentioned before. I felt like I had a bit more of a pump in my left than right for part of the workout. I have to work more on my upper back. I want it to be bigger.

Not sure if there are any PR lifts in here or not. It was on par with my other work though, so I’ll take it.

This morning (1/30/14) I weighed in at 218. I don’t feel like I gained much fat, so I am not worried about my weight. I have noticed that my legs are getting much bigger than they were even before.

Yeah, I think I am going to go get some stuff from Home Depot to work on the limber 11, shoulder dislocations, etc…

I cannot find a lacrosse ball though. Any recommendations for a substitute?

[quote]trivium wrote:
Yeah, I think I am going to go get some stuff from Home Depot to work on the limber 11, shoulder dislocations, etc…

I cannot find a lacrosse ball though. Any recommendations for a substitute? [/quote]
I’ve seen people use a baseball…I got my lax ball at a Dick’s

[quote]trivium wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Damn dude. You are like a good knee wrap away from squatting 440.[/quote]

Thanks man. I am starting to worry about my knee a bit. I made a thread in the injuries and rehab section. It isn’t stopping me in my tracks with pain, but I want to be cautious.

I have never used wraps or a belt. I am thinking that I may wait until my second or third meet to check them out(assuming this knee thing is nothing major).[/quote]

Sorry about the way that thread turned out, lol. Please keep us updated on the results. You have my promise that I’ll only respond to you from now on. The injuries log is a great learning opportunity for everyone involved.

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]trivium wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Damn dude. You are like a good knee wrap away from squatting 440.[/quote]

Thanks man. I am starting to worry about my knee a bit. I made a thread in the injuries and rehab section. It isn’t stopping me in my tracks with pain, but I want to be cautious.

I have never used wraps or a belt. I am thinking that I may wait until my second or third meet to check them out(assuming this knee thing is nothing major).[/quote]

Sorry about the way that thread turned out, lol. Please keep us updated on the results. You have my promise that I’ll only respond to you from now on. The injuries log is a great learning opportunity for everyone involved.[/quote]

It’s all good man. I know that people just want to give the best advice possible because they have my best interest at heart. If people get a little heated, it’s just because they care and are passionate about what they do.

Here is my workout from 1/31/14.

No warm up for knee was done today. I didn’t have time and my training partner was in a rush.

Deadlift
10x135
5x185
5x225
5x275
5x330
3x375
5x415 (New PR. I have a video of this set on my friend’s phone. I need to be better about uploading vids. Not great form. Hitched a few.)
3x375 (Tried to clean up form. Used towels for grip. I have vids of this.)
5x330 (Same as before. Used towels for grip. Vids of this exist.)
(I held my last rep on my heavy set for some grip work like csulli does.)

Leg Curl
10x60
10x80
10x100
10x120
10x130
7x130 (All dead stop reps with special attention to form. This is one more on this set than last week.)
15x100
15x100
10x100
10x100
10x70 (Special attention to form.)

Had some knee pain after my first set of 15 on leg curls. No pain during any of the lifts. I need to work on form more. I will try to get the videos up soon.

I was tired as hell for this lift. I didn’t sleep well and woke up after a 2 hour nap to go to the gym. I don’t like to lift immediately after waking. I don’t feel like I am firing on all cylinders until a few hours after I wake. My top set was like 30 minutes after I woke up. That didn’t stop my PR though haha. It did however make my warm up sets feel a bit heavier than usual. Normally I kill my sets of 330. Didn’t feel that way today. The sets where I pyramid down were heavy feeling.

I’ll take it.

Had my MRI today. I have an appointment with sports medicine doc coming up. I will keep everyone updated on how that goes.

Do you guys think that it may be worth my time to make smaller jumps with my weights (or no increases at all) and maybe explore using some knee wraps to alleviate pressure on my knees for my squat workouts?

I have 2 lighter weeks of squatting coming up.

[quote]chobbs wrote:

[quote]trivium wrote:
Yeah, I think I am going to go get some stuff from Home Depot to work on the limber 11, shoulder dislocations, etc…

I cannot find a lacrosse ball though. Any recommendations for a substitute? [/quote]
I’ve seen people use a baseball…I got my lax ball at a Dick’s[/quote]

I have been lazy. I need to get on top of this stuff. Tomorrow!

Info for next cycle.

Lift - Max - TM
Press - 192 - 172.8
Bench Press - 297 - 267.3
Squat - 427 - 384.3
Deadlift - 490 - 441

I took smaller jumps with my lower body lifts for obvious reasons.

I went out to get a baseball, a nice piece of PVC pipe. Cost about 10 bucks total. I am going to track down my bands now so I can do shoulder dislocations. I will also make a dislocation bar tomorrow. Lots of stuff going on with life right now.

No updates on the knee.

My lift from 2/3/14.

Press
10x45
10x75
5x95
5x115
5x130
6x150 (Paused. Not happy about this. I wanted more.)
11x135 (TNG. Not sure if this is a PR or just ties one. I like knowing that I can get this after my big set too.)
5x115

Pull Up
10/8/8/8/7/4 2/6/5/6/6 (Lost grip on 6th set so that is where the 2 comes from.)

Dips
10/10/10/10/8 2/5 (Almost failed a rep on the 5th set, so I took a few seconds and got back to it.)

I wanted to get more with my press. I wasn’t too thrilled with my chin ups either. I have had better lifts. My shoulders felt nice and pumped after my press work though, so it is possible that may have affected things. I am happy that it appears that I am getting more reps per set though. I think the grips on the pull up bar I use are wearing out a bit. I would like to wrap another smooth bar that we have at the gym with athletic tape, but I don’t think my gym will let me. That pull up bar would be perfect if I could.