[quote]SRT08 wrote:
For all recommending the DMAA’s and supps containing DMAA, those product manufacturers have been hit by the FDA and products such as Hemo Rage and Jack3d are being discontinued. Something about the DMAA used being synthetically produced and so the products themselves don’t fall under the DHSEA.[/quote]
If you are tired and need a boost you gotta try Spike, taste awesome and had me bouncing off the walls. “Clean energy”
I use to be against pre-workout supplements then someone let me try hemo-rage black. Have b-vitamins some amino’s, also has beta beta alanine which I was looking for, it’s pretty good stuff. Every time I drink it my tongue tingles for like 15 minutes. For taste I use the blueberry. I bought a 45 day supply for around 35$.
Other than that, Bcaa’s, protein and carbs 30 minutes prior to training.
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
I think pre-workouts are a joke. Well, those similar to what you just mentioned. Honestly I have a hard time wanting to use anything other than Biotest’s stuff.
This may sound cheesy but I think your “pre-workout” should come from within. It could even be music, a video, a speech, or just a moment to yourself in which you get focused. But I can’t help but laugh when people ask about pre-workouts. I’ve been down that road and I don’t care for it. You should rely on nothing and no one but you and you alone.
Sorry for not giving you the answer you were looking for. [/quote]
What supplements do you use?[/quote]
Right now I’m taking the New Anaconda and MAG-10. I used to take Indigo-3G. Biotest’s Metabolic Drive is my absolute favorite whey powder, no question. I really like their L-Leucine. I wish I had an unlimited supply of both. But I guess in terms of this topic Anaconda is my answer. O! and FINiBARs! Damn…favorite thing before a workout without a doubt.[/quote]
Lol… Anaconda, MAG-10, Indigo-3G, Metabolic Drive, FINiBARs. So all these supps come from within? Very hypocritical statements.
That being said, OP, when I bought some old MAG-10 and Surge Workout Fuel I had some of the best workouts in my life, on a consistent basis. Same could be said when I was taking Hemo Rage Ultra sans Surge Workout Fuel or MAG-10.
If you can afford Surge Workout Fuel/MAG-10/Anaconda or whatever and you want it give it a try. I would try Hemo Rage Ultra, too. Best stim product I’ve ever used.[/quote]
Umm, no. Not hypocritical. He was asking about preworkout stims. I told him to find that within like I do myself. Then he asked what supps I take. I take Anaconda/MAG-10 and the rest for nutrients and recovery. I don’t use them as “pre-workouts” which is what this is about.Do you really think Metabolic Drive is a pre-workout stimulant? Nice try though.
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
I think pre-workouts are a joke. Well, those similar to what you just mentioned. Honestly I have a hard time wanting to use anything other than Biotest’s stuff.
This may sound cheesy but I think your “pre-workout” should come from within. It could even be music, a video, a speech, or just a moment to yourself in which you get focused. But I can’t help but laugh when people ask about pre-workouts. I’ve been down that road and I don’t care for it. You should rely on nothing and no one but you and you alone.
Sorry for not giving you the answer you were looking for. [/quote]
So what do you think of whey pre-workout? It’s not quite a supp, or do you think people should workout fasted?
When I lift I have 40g whey with water, however conditioning I do fasted (morning workouts)[/quote]
When i say i dont take ‘pre workout supps’ i dont mean i workoutfasted, ‘pre workout’ supps have become their own category and are almost always stim based. I like A protein based meal 60-90 minutes pre or like you said whey+water 60 minutes pre, i dont consider that a ‘pre workout’ supp. Thats just nutrition.[/quote]
@dreadlocks, I like what putter said. I don’t like the idea of working out fasted. If anything I’ll going for a morning walk or some small conditioning stuff while sipping MAG-10. I used to have some whey before workouts, during, and after. I guess now it’s been replaced by Anaconda. But even when I don’t have anaconda I rely on a meal before hand with protein/carbs then whey post workout.
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
Umm, no. Not hypocritical. He was asking about preworkout stims. I told him to find that within like I do myself. Then he asked what supps I take. I take anaconda/MAG-10 and the rest for nutrients and recovery. I don’t use them as “pre-workouts” which is what this is about.Do you really think Metabolic Drive is a pre-workout stimulant? Nice try though.[/quote]
Rationalize how ever you like. Stims give you energy/increase gym performance. Sound familiar to FINiBARs, MAG-10, Anaconda, Indigo-3G?
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
Umm, no. Not hypocritical. He was asking about preworkout stims. I told him to find that within like I do myself. Then he asked what supps I take. I take anaconda/MAG-10 and the rest for nutrients and recovery. I don’t use them as “pre-workouts” which is what this is about.Do you really think Metabolic Drive is a pre-workout stimulant? Nice try though.[/quote]
Rationalize how ever you like. Stims give you energy/increase gym performance. Sound familiar to FINiBARs, MAG-10, Anaconda, Indigo-3G?[/quote]
Dude? Srs? So eating breakfast is the same thing as taking Jack3d in the current context? please tell me not srs?
I think this is one of those agree to disagree things. I don’t consider those things stimulants any more than I consider protein and carbs from food stimulants. FINiBARs, Anaconda, MAG-10, and Indigo-3G don’t stimulate me in the sense that they don’t give me a “pump” or get me amped up.
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
Umm, no. Not hypocritical. He was asking about preworkout stims. I told him to find that within like I do myself. Then he asked what supps I take. I take anaconda/MAG-10 and the rest for nutrients and recovery. I don’t use them as “pre-workouts” which is what this is about.Do you really think Metabolic Drive is a pre-workout stimulant? Nice try though.[/quote]
Rationalize how ever you like. Stims give you energy/increase gym performance. Sound familiar to FINiBARs, MAG-10, Anaconda, Indigo-3G?[/quote]
Dude? Srs? So eating breakfast is the same thing as taking Jack3d in the current context? please tell me not srs?[/quote]
Is english your primary language? I don’t know where breakfast is coming from…
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
I think this is one of those agree to disagree things. I don’t consider those things stimulants any more than I consider protein and carbs from food stimulants. FINiBARs, Anaconda, MAG-10, and Indigo-3G don’t stimulate me in the sense that they don’t give me a “pump” or get me amped up. [/quote]
All I’m getting at is those products accomplish the same goal, just through different… pathways. The CH, beta alanine, creatine, and CM are no less natural than stim powders. They are isolated then concentrated.
Pre WO powders and the supplements listed above ALL are meant to do the SAME THING(s): increase work capacity, increase strength, prolong fatigue and so on. I don’t think that can be disputed, no?
I’ve been through many preWO powders in the past. All of them seemed to give me a quick bolt of energy lasting 20, 30 minutes tops, followed by a crash. If I took them for too long they eventually fried me I relied on them for training and would feel like death after each session lol. I ordered a case of Spike to try out and was immediately hooked. I never get a crash, and the energy lasts for several hours. I usually take one to lecture, and the energy carries over to my training a couple of hours later. Plus, the stuff tastes darn good.
Im a fan of pre workouts, im currenty taking Hemo Rage Ultra Concentrate. Great energy, leaves you with a “happy” feeling after the gym. No crash & gives you energy a couple hours after the gym also.
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
I think pre-workouts are a joke. Well, those similar to what you just mentioned. Honestly I have a hard time wanting to use anything other than Biotest’s stuff.
This may sound cheesy but I think your “pre-workout” should come from within. It could even be music, a video, a speech, or just a moment to yourself in which you get focused. But I can’t help but laugh when people ask about pre-workouts. I’ve been down that road and I don’t care for it. You should rely on nothing and no one but you and you alone.
Sorry for not giving you the answer you were looking for. [/quote]
What supplements do you use?[/quote]
Just finished my first tub of Hemo Rage Ultra and i loved it, just bought Surge Workout Fuel for the first time and i hope its better then Hemo, still waiting for it to arrive.
Right now I’m taking the New Anaconda and MAG-10. I used to take Indigo-3G. Biotest’s Metabolic Drive is my absolute favorite whey powder, no question. I really like their L-Leucine. I wish I had an unlimited supply of both. But I guess in terms of this topic Anaconda is my answer. O! and FINiBARs! Damn…favorite thing before a workout without a doubt.[/quote]
Lol… Anaconda, MAG-10, Indigo-3G, Metabolic Drive, FINiBARs. So all these supps come from within? Very hypocritical statements.
That being said, OP, when I bought some old MAG-10 and Surge Workout Fuel I had some of the best workouts in my life, on a consistent basis. Same could be said when I was taking Hemo Rage Ultra sans Surge Workout Fuel or MAG-10.
If you can afford Surge Workout Fuel/MAG-10/Anaconda or whatever and you want it give it a try. I would try Hemo Rage Ultra, too. Best stim product I’ve ever used.[/quote]
I never was a huge pre workout drink guy. I tried things here and there from friends but never found one I loved… Until now.
Picked up a bottle of Hemo Rage Black cause a good buddy (who I really trust) recommended it. It was on sale for $21 so I figured why not… This stuff is great!
I love it. No jittery feeling but I feel just as fresh and ready to go on my last set of workout as I did when I walked it. I really really like this stuff.