[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
PGJ wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
PGJ wrote:
micromuscle wrote:
Seems to me that if you spend all your days defending the aweful, pitiful government that vetoes evrything, you are the troll. You are a piece of dog shit. And you quote evrything and evry paper but still a “leftie” makes ya look retarded in your stance. You, my typing friend, are afraid.
The “government” doesn’t veto anything. The President vetoes. By the way, GWB has the fewest vetoes of any President in the last 100 years. Some people debate using facts and “papers” as you state, some debate out of emotion. If using references makes someone a “piece of dog shit”…well I don’t know what to say to that.
Yes, but doesn’t he (by far) have the most “signing statements” that he amends to bills, in the process making the people who introduced the bill not pass it?
Once again, another cherry picking of historical facts to make one side look good. President finds a way to defeat bills without a veto, so you harp on the fact that he has very few vetos. Funny, right?
WTF!!! Someone brings up a generalized, un-researched accusation about “government” vetoes…I share the actual FACTS, and now I’M the one “cherry picking historical facts”? Give me a break. That’s weak.
Go back to the “Impeach Bush” drawing board and draft up another unfounded attack. Try again later.
Yes, the actual FACT is that president Bush has very vew vetoes to his name.
The actual CONTEXT of that FACT is that he found other ways to defeat bills he did not want to pass, without use of a veto.
So its dishonest to simply say “President Bush has the fewest vetoes of any president” KNOWING FULLY THAT saying only this will give people the impression that “There have been very few bills that President Bush has stopped”. And to say you aren’t being knowingly dishonest in your presentation would be a lie.
So, yes, in picking out one FACT and ignoring other PERTINENT factors surronding said FACT, you are, indeed, cherry picking whatever FACTS support your argument and ignoring everything else.
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I stated fact, you spin a web of conspiracy with ZERO proof. What do you mean he found “other ways” to defeat bills? Give me some facts, not theories. What loopholes did he use to bypass the whole veto thing? And assuming the worst, do you believe he is the first to do so? Again, your argument is weak.