Seems to me that if you spend all your days defending the aweful, pitiful government that vetoes evrything, you are the troll. You are a piece of dog shit. And you quote evrything and evry paper but still a “leftie” makes ya look retarded in your stance. You, my typing friend, are afraid.
[quote]micromuscle wrote:
Seems to me that if you spend all your days defending the aweful, pitiful government that vetoes evrything, you are the troll. You are a piece of dog shit. And you quote evrything and evry paper but still a “leftie” makes ya look retarded in your stance. You, my typing friend, are afraid. [/quote]
You’re obviously an idiot (consider changing your name to mircobrain). How do you expect someone to defend their point of view without quotes or articles to back it up? And calling people “a piece of dog shit” won’t get you too far around here.
P.S. If I was your teacher in school, I would have “vetoed” your graduation status based on your grammar.
[quote]lixy wrote:
This thread is trollish itself. It assumes that there is a a portion of posters around here that are not interested in constructive debating and are just throw inflammatory remarks to bait others into replying.
By that definition, I cannot name a single person I would consider a troll.
Everyone contribute with something. Heck, even HH’s “All Muslims Are Nuts” threads sheds light on the PR challenge of Islam in modern times.
But there are serious issues to be tackled:
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Repetitive threads: I’ve been around for a few weeks only and I’m sick of people starting a new thread for the same video (see Global Warming Spindle). Do some homework for God’s sake before posting. It’s disrespectful to make many users read a duplicates and have them point that to you. Google is your friend.
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Personal attacks: Be it not assuming good faith are calling others names, such behavior should not be encouraged as it takes the focus out of the issue and becomes ridiculous pissing contests. Thunderbolt is an example of someone who cannot reply without resorting to insults. He’s very knowledgeable, and more often than not, throws insightful posts, but boy, does he get personal!
I have been called a troll by Zap dozens of times and hedo keeps shouting cyber-Jihadist whenever he has a chance.
It gets tiresome because, after a certain point I am tricked into responding with personal attacks myself. I’m only human after all.
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Threads with zero added-value: Let’s say like this one or the one called “Seriously Lixy”. The poster brings absolutely nothing new. Respect other people’s intelligence.
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People acting like they own the forums don’t help much either.
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People with a “holier than thou” attitude. Like the ones who grant themselves the right to judge who is sincere and who isn’t.
I cannot judge if the quality of discussion has been dropping or not. I’m relatively new around here.
But I know this much: As long as the forum has members like Varqanir and Pookie with their encyclopedic-yet-subtly-hilarious posts, people like JeffR who remain civil even when vehemently disagreeing with you or even JTF’s quotefarms, I’ll continue to make this place a regular stop.[/quote]
You get tricked into personal attacks? 
Personal attacks is your modus operandi lixy, between quoting/linking articles and then stating that you don’t really agree with them anyway and demonizing Israel and USA.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Where has Fighting Irish been? He is a strong left wing poster and engages in sincere discussion.
I’m going to get back into this forum, but I’m going to pick and choose my sparring partners.
And for whatever jerkoff said something about not swearing or name calling on the forums, go fuck yourself. This is politics.
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As for driving people off, I’m sure Irish misses Steveo and his ‘Bow or Burn’ thread. 
That thread WAS quality! ROFLMAO!
[quote]micromuscle wrote:
Seems to me that if you spend all your days defending the aweful, pitiful government that vetoes evrything, you are the troll. You are a piece of dog shit. And you quote evrything and evry paper but still a “leftie” makes ya look retarded in your stance. You, my typing friend, are afraid. [/quote]
The “government” doesn’t veto anything. The President vetoes. By the way, GWB has the fewest vetoes of any President in the last 100 years. Some people debate using facts and “papers” as you state, some debate out of emotion. If using references makes someone a “piece of dog shit”…well I don’t know what to say to that.
Trolls are fictional characters from the warcraft world. I don’t that any are posting here.
from the warcraft world?!
You heretic… 
-wikipedia
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Where has Fighting Irish been? He is a strong left wing poster and engages in sincere discussion.
I’m going to get back into this forum, but I’m going to pick and choose my sparring partners.
And for whatever jerkoff said something about not swearing or name calling on the forums, go fuck yourself. This is politics.
As for driving people off, I’m sure Irish misses Steveo and his ‘Bow or Burn’ thread.
That thread WAS quality! ROFLMAO!
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That thread, along with the HUGE evolution one we had going for quite a while were great. If I remember correctly, those 2 threads along with Pookie’s satan thread got the politics forum removed from the front page list of hot topics.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
micromuscle wrote:
Seems to me that if you spend all your days defending the aweful, pitiful government that vetoes evrything, you are the troll. You are a piece of dog shit. And you quote evrything and evry paper but still a “leftie” makes ya look retarded in your stance. You, my typing friend, are afraid.
The “government” doesn’t veto anything. The President vetoes. By the way, GWB has the fewest vetoes of any President in the last 100 years. Some people debate using facts and “papers” as you state, some debate out of emotion. If using references makes someone a “piece of dog shit”…well I don’t know what to say to that.
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Yes, but doesn’t he (by far) have the most “signing statements” that he amends to bills, in the process making the people who introduced the bill not pass it?
Once again, another cherry picking of historical facts to make one side look good. President finds a way to defeat bills without a veto, so you harp on the fact that he has very few vetos. Funny, right?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
There is a serious lack of sincere posters representing a liberal or left wing attitude lately.
There a still a few that post with intelligent positions that even though I disagree I enjoy reading but many others have deserted and I don’t blame them.[/quote]
You want to know why most liberal posters “deserted”?
Probably because they got tired of having strawman arguments, and vicious insults based soley on those strawman arguments, thrown at them.
"Liberals hate America. Liberals are traitors. Liberals support terrorists. Liberals want Americans to die. Liberals hate the troops. Liberals loooooooove terrorists! oh boy do they ever love terrorists!
Liberals think America is evil, Liberals blame ALL the suffering in the world (ALL OF IT, ALL, WITHOUT EXCEPTION) on America, Liberals are racist, Liberals want to destroy America, Liberals are to blame for every problem in America, Liberals want us to lose in Iraq because they hate America, Liberals…"
Just look at the “seriously, lixy” thread. It starts out with “If america really is evil…” (because, of course, liberals think america is pure evil and want to kill all americans), another poster claims lixy blames “All of the suffering in the world” on America…
Its not hard to see why liberals don’t stick around to continue getting abuse…
and then, when liberals get tired of the Conservative Circle Jerks, and stop posting…
some moron starts bitching that there aren’t enough “serious” liberal posters.
Oh yeah, and cyber-jihadist.
But yeah, I cant imagine why CYBER-JIHADIST liberals wouldnt want to share their CYBER-JIHADIST views so they can be outed as the CYBER-JIHADISTS they really are.
“Durrrh, hii, mah names Zap. I’m gonna make a thread bitching about a lack of serious liberal posters, then continue name calling liberal posters. I’m fucking s-m-r-t.”
[quote]Ren wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Where has Fighting Irish been? He is a strong left wing poster and engages in sincere discussion.
I’m going to get back into this forum, but I’m going to pick and choose my sparring partners.
And for whatever jerkoff said something about not swearing or name calling on the forums, go fuck yourself. This is politics.
As for driving people off, I’m sure Irish misses Steveo and his ‘Bow or Burn’ thread.
That thread WAS quality! ROFLMAO!
That thread, along with the HUGE evolution one we had going for quite a while were great. If I remember correctly, those 2 threads along with Pookie’s satan thread got the politics forum removed from the front page list of hot topics.[/quote]
IIRC “the jaws of satan” thread got removed from the forum altogether. You can still find it but only by using the search feature.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Oh yeah, and cyber-jihadist.
But yeah, I cant imagine why CYBER-JIHADIST liberals wouldnt want to share their CYBER-JIHADIST views so they can be outed as the CYBER-JIHADISTS they really are.
“Durrrh, hii, mah names Zap. I’m gonna make a thread bitching about a lack of serious liberal posters, then continue name calling liberal posters. I’m fucking s-m-r-t.”[/quote]
Do you actually think you speak for the intelligent posters here?
Your kind of crap is part of the problem.
I wouldn’t expect you to understand.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Oh yeah, and cyber-jihadist.
But yeah, I cant imagine why CYBER-JIHADIST liberals wouldnt want to share their CYBER-JIHADIST views so they can be outed as the CYBER-JIHADISTS they really are.
“Durrrh, hii, mah names Zap. I’m gonna make a thread bitching about a lack of serious liberal posters, then continue name calling liberal posters. I’m fucking s-m-r-t.”
Do you actually think you speak for the intelligent posters here?
Your kind of crap is part of the problem.
I wouldn’t expect you to understand.[/quote]
So lets get this straight:
Step one: Conservative posters use strawman arguments and insults against liberal posters, till liberal posters no longer want to take the abuse (and explain that they dont hate america and arent evil and don’t support terrorist and other nonsense they should never even have to address in the first place) and stop frequenting the forum.
Step two: Oblivious conservative poster complains about lack of “serious” liberal posters.
Step three: Other poster points out WHY there is a lack of “serious liberal” posters.
Step four: Other protester is called a troll and part of the problem.
I’m shocked, really. Really really.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I wouldn’t expect you to understand.[/quote]
No one with any intelligence actually understands this thread…
Zap, for someone with a history on this site I would have to say you have offered the least amount of a personal opinion on any one subject. You claim to be non-partisan yet seem to tout whatever the popular stance seems to be at the moment.
Most of your posts do not even have anything more than a one line quip–though some of us appreciate your attempt at humor it doesn’t really offer any insight.
You remind me of the guy that needs to be liked by everyone. He goes out of his way not to rock the boat and be accepted, inserting his one-liners wherever he thinks appropriate to show people he’s a likable, funny guy.
We don’t even have to look any further than this thread for an example of your intellectual laziness. You are spouting the same line spouted by TC, et al, from a few weeks back–you don’t even offer a new idea or way to look at it.
I was hoping this thread was to inform us that you would soon be leaving us.
Cry us a river while you’re at it.
[quote]haney1 wrote:
IIRC “the jaws of satan” thread got removed from the forum altogether. You can still find it but only by using the search feature.[/quote]
True. And it’s not my thread either. It was one of Headhunter’s threads.
It was fun while it lasted.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Oh yeah, and cyber-jihadist.
But yeah, I cant imagine why CYBER-JIHADIST liberals wouldnt want to share their CYBER-JIHADIST views so they can be outed as the CYBER-JIHADISTS they really are.
“Durrrh, hii, mah names Zap. I’m gonna make a thread bitching about a lack of serious liberal posters, then continue name calling liberal posters. I’m fucking s-m-r-t.”
Do you actually think you speak for the intelligent posters here?
Your kind of crap is part of the problem.
I wouldn’t expect you to understand.
So lets get this straight:
Step one: Conservative posters use strawman arguments and insults against liberal posters, till liberal posters no longer want to take the abuse (and explain that they dont hate america and arent evil and don’t support terrorist and other nonsense they should never even have to address in the first place) and stop frequenting the forum.
Step two: Oblivious conservative poster complains about lack of “serious” liberal posters.
Step three: Other poster points out WHY there is a lack of “serious liberal” posters.
Step four: Other protester is called a troll and part of the problem.
I’m shocked, really. Really really.
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Step five: Mr part of the problem still doesn’t get it.
Step six: Mr part of the problem adds another insulting post that contributes nothing to the forum.
[quote]micromuscle wrote:
you are the troll. [/quote]
For starting this thread, I definitely agree.
That was uncalled for. Surely you can express your opinion without resorting to that. It just makes you look bad.
Now, THAT is an insightful statement. Fear is very dangerous when mismanaged, and even worse when exploited.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Oh yeah, and cyber-jihadist.
But yeah, I cant imagine why CYBER-JIHADIST liberals wouldnt want to share their CYBER-JIHADIST views so they can be outed as the CYBER-JIHADISTS they really are.
“Durrrh, hii, mah names Zap. I’m gonna make a thread bitching about a lack of serious liberal posters, then continue name calling liberal posters. I’m fucking s-m-r-t.”[/quote]
I guess the crew you’re refering to can’t distinguish between a self-professed “radical and Muslim” and a “radical Muslim”. But hey, I don’t expect that from people dumb enough to keep supporting Bush despite the blatant failure of his foreign policy anyway.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
PGJ wrote:
micromuscle wrote:
Seems to me that if you spend all your days defending the aweful, pitiful government that vetoes evrything, you are the troll. You are a piece of dog shit. And you quote evrything and evry paper but still a “leftie” makes ya look retarded in your stance. You, my typing friend, are afraid.
The “government” doesn’t veto anything. The President vetoes. By the way, GWB has the fewest vetoes of any President in the last 100 years. Some people debate using facts and “papers” as you state, some debate out of emotion. If using references makes someone a “piece of dog shit”…well I don’t know what to say to that.
Yes, but doesn’t he (by far) have the most “signing statements” that he amends to bills, in the process making the people who introduced the bill not pass it?
Once again, another cherry picking of historical facts to make one side look good. President finds a way to defeat bills without a veto, so you harp on the fact that he has very few vetos. Funny, right?
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WTF!!! Someone brings up a generalized, un-researched accusation about “government” vetoes…I share the actual FACTS, and now I’M the one “cherry picking historical facts”? Give me a break. That’s weak.
Go back to the “Impeach Bush” drawing board and draft up another unfounded attack. Try again later.