I take each work set to ‘technical failure’.
[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
[quote]Raffy wrote:
Someone should make a "Roguevampire: How do you train " thread. [/quote]
You’re just going to give a troll more power. Like I said before I never followed him from his first appearance.[/quote]
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
[quote]Raffy wrote:
Someone should make a "Roguevampire: How do you train " thread. [/quote]
You’re just going to give a troll more power. Like I said before I never followed him from his first appearance.[/quote]
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LOL winningz
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think you should post a recent picture of yourself[/quote]
I really don’t understand the purpose of the thread. Why doesn’t he just train to failure for 100 years, and then try 100 years of volume and compare the results?
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
I really don’t understand the purpose of the thread. Why doesn’t he just train to failure for 100 years, and then try 100 years of volume and compare the results? [/quote]
I thought he tried it but the results were confounded by drinking the blood of all the juicers in the 70’s.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
wow, talk about assholes. What does my pic have to do with this topic?[/quote]
Because in the world of bodybuilding, the truth or falsehood of anything you say is determined by your physique.
Reaching failure is desirable, but it comes with the danger of overtraining, i.e. breaking your muscles down faster than you can build them back up again, which happens either as a result of too much exercise or too little recovery. If training to failure, you should not reach failure on more than one set per exercise (the last one) and not perform more than two exercises per muscle group. The purpose of HIT training is to manage volume and frequency within the framework of training to failure, so if you’re into failure training, that’s what you should be looking into…
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Reaching failure is desirable, but there is a danger is breaking your muscles down faster than you can build them back up again, which happens either as a result of too much exercise or too little recovery. If training to failure, you should not reach failure on more than one set per exercise (the last one) and not perform more than two exercises per muscle group. The purpose of HIT training is to manage volume and frequency within the framework of training to failure, so if you’re into failure training, that’s what you should be looking into.[/quote]
i could agree but Yates won many Sandows using more than two excercises per muscle group and going (beyond) failure on each excercise,i had Blod&Guts video,if i remeber well he used 3 excercises for chest,3 for delts and 4 for back/legs.
what you say is true but ut is as per Jones/Menzter HIT
[quote]buzza wrote:
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Reaching failure is desirable, but there is a danger is breaking your muscles down faster than you can build them back up again, which happens either as a result of too much exercise or too little recovery. If training to failure, you should not reach failure on more than one set per exercise (the last one) and not perform more than two exercises per muscle group. The purpose of HIT training is to manage volume and frequency within the framework of training to failure, so if you’re into failure training, that’s what you should be looking into.[/quote]
i could agree but Yates won many Sandows using more than two excercises per muscle group and going (beyond) failure on each excercise,i had Blod&Guts video,if i remeber well he used 3 excercises for chest,3 for delts and 4 for back/legs.
what you say is true but ut is as per Jones/Menzter HIT [/quote]
Im starting to think now that 2 sets to failure on multiple exercises is the best but its hard to do and for me i can only do things once a week if i go this route but i like once a week anyway
[quote]i could agree but Yates won many Sandows using more than two excercises per muscle group andgoing (beyond) failure on each excercise,i had Blod&Guts video,if i remeber well he used 3 excercises for chest,3 for delts and 4 for back/legs.
what you say is true but ut is as per Jones/Menzter HIT [/quote]
in order to know how effective the stuff Yates pulled will require you to use heavy doses of AAS + his genetics. the only thing you should take from IFBB pro’s is exercise selection. rep ranges and intensity methods are a waste of time if you’re not on AAS year round. you are comparing a chemical powerhouse to a 72’ Dodge.
I always LOL @ n00bs who say the best way to train is 1 set to failure Yates style. come show me your progress in 4-5 years with that shit method.
[quote]buzza wrote:
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Reaching failure is desirable, but there is a danger is breaking your muscles down faster than you can build them back up again, which happens either as a result of too much exercise or too little recovery. If training to failure, you should not reach failure on more than one set per exercise (the last one) and not perform more than two exercises per muscle group. The purpose of HIT training is to manage volume and frequency within the framework of training to failure, so if you’re into failure training, that’s what you should be looking into.[/quote]
i could agree but Yates won many Sandows using more than two excercises per muscle group and going (beyond) failure on each excercise,i had Blod&Guts video,if i remeber well he used 3 excercises for chest,3 for delts and 4 for back/legs.
what you say is true but ut is as per Jones/Menzter HIT [/quote]
All of this is true. Still, Yates is an extreme genetic freak who was presumably also on steroids, so he may have had the ability to tolerate more than the average bodybuilder based on those factors.
[quote]hanban wrote:
[quote]i could agree but Yates won many Sandows using more than two excercises per muscle group andgoing (beyond) failure on each excercise,i had Blod&Guts video,if i remeber well he used 3 excercises for chest,3 for delts and 4 for back/legs.
what you say is true but ut is as per Jones/Menzter HIT [/quote]
in order to know how effective the stuff Yates pulled will require you to use heavy doses of AAS + his genetics. the only thing you should take from IFBB pro’s is exercise selection. rep ranges and intensity methods are a waste of time if you’re not on AAS year round. you are comparing a chemical powerhouse to a 72’ Dodge.
I always LOL @ n00bs who say the best way to train is 1 set to failure Yates style. come show me your progress in 4-5 years with that shit method.[/quote]
Yeah i 100% disagree with you and I dont think im the only one.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
wow, talk about assholes. What does my pic have to do with this topic?[/quote]
Because in the world of bodybuilding, the truth or falsehood of anything you say is determined by your physique.[/quote]
Though I agree, I enjoy the irony that your avatar brings to that statement.
Arthur Jones’ influence in this field is undeniable. However, if we were to base his level of development on his teachings, no one would have paid attention.
lol
EDIT: Strange how my post coincided with your sudden change of avatar! I mean like almost to the second!
lol
They say vampires shape doesn’t change from they were bitten, so you better be at peak shape or you may end like this.
imagine being 400 years old and trapped in a child’s body.
[quote]hanban wrote:
I always LOL @ n00bs who say the best way to train is 1 set to failure Yates style. come show me your progress in 4-5 years with that shit method.[/quote]
Something about you says to me that you’re quite advanced/experienced (going by the few posts)…maybe already a member on here with another account or not…
Anyway, can you elaborate on the above ^
You talking about drug free people yeah?
hehe there is nothing special or advanced in what im saying. im not talking about will power and consistency. comparing an assisted bodybuilder , let alone a genetic freak, to the average guy, hard core as he may be, is a waste of time. show me one natural BB who have had success with training 1 set to failure or with other exotic methods. i’ve seen a guy recently who told me he’s training yates style, the guy cant pull 225 yet, and wasting his time with a program desgined by a man who was a walking chemical plant and had alien genetics. there’s alot of usefull stuff you can learn watching ifbb pro’s, how to train is not one of those things (besides again, exercise selection and motivation for hard work and dedication)
Just found this thread. Absolutely delivered on the first page and a half, I just wish RV would contribute some more gold.
[quote]hanban wrote:
hehe there is nothing special or advanced in what im saying. im not talking about will power and consistency. comparing an assisted bodybuilder , let alone a genetic freak, to the average guy, hard core as he may be, is a waste of time. show me one natural BB who have had success with training 1 set to failure or with other exotic methods. i’ve seen a guy recently who told me he’s training yates style, the guy cant pull 225 yet, and wasting his time with a program desgined by a man who was a walking chemical plant and had alien genetics. there’s alot of usefull stuff you can learn watching ifbb pro’s, how to train is not one of those things (besides again, exercise selection and motivation for hard work and dedication)[/quote]
when i said i disaggree btw i only met personally i think generally your right, I do have alien genetics though so i guess i retract my disagreement lol
[quote]hanban wrote:
show me one natural BB who have had success with training 1 set to failure or with other exotic methods.[/quote]
This dude is a credible natural bodybuilder in his 40s and a long-time HITer. He was even bigger when he was younger.