If it ain’t broke…
I don’t see a need to go back to them.
I keep wanting to add power cleans again. Every time I do them though, I injure something. At this point in life, I don’t think they’re worth it.
That’s an excellent idea! It maintains consistency while decreasing time spent. You’re spot on about SL glute bridges with holds being miserable. I dread those stupid things.
Deload this week and then the 3 day program starts next week. I’ll add some thoughts and feeling after a few weeks of trying this.
That’s exciting! I look forward to seeing how it compares to your current system. Is your coach writing the new program too?
Yes, we have decided we wont add too much to the third day, probably more technical work, font squats and some more bench maybe. He’s writing it this week so I should know by the weekend.
It’ll be interesting to see how he accommodates the increased volume, and having some new movements may be refreshing for you, too.
6/24/19, Monday
Walk, 38:39
Keeping things mellow and recoverable while working with a doctor to figure out where my energy has gone.
Think you’ll be giving up your natty status soon? If I ever find myself in that position then I won’t hesitate to jump on TRT. The only question will be which method to use.
Nope, I don’t think so. Because of the sudden, inexplicable fatigue, I mentioned the possibility of low T levels to my doc. His opinion is that if a man can get and maintain an erection, TRT replacement isn’t necessary. Makes sense to me.
At what point would you want to do TRT?
6/25/19, Tuesday
Met-con
2 rounds
Step-ups, bw x 50
Push-ups, bw x 25
DB swings, 35 x 25
DB rows, 55 x 10
3 rounds w/ 35 lb DBs
Deadlifts x 5
RDLs x 5
Rows x 5
OHP x 5
Front squats x 5
Push-ups
bw x 25
bw x 25
More tiring than it ought be. All told, 100 step-ups, 100 push-ups, and enough other movements to make a good sweat sesh.
Testosterone is the main driver of this hobby. Trying to do it with low T would be like playing basketball with your big brother. Every time you try to score he swats the ball back into your face. That’s not fun and it won’t take long for you to quit playing.
The range of “normal” T levels is big. Doc might tell you that you’re normal when you’re at 400, but that’s a long ways from the top of the range around 1200.
If it were me then I want good levels; not just normal.
I think guys like @jackolee and @The_Myth could help you more. The first step is to figure out if T is even the problem. Did your doc offer up any other ideas about your low energy?
What do your thyroid labs look like?
The biggest problem is finding a doc who:
The range is like 300-1100 on my labs. I feel great at 800, and o have a buddy who feels best around 1500. Our doc monitors labs every six months if you aren’t changing doses. If you make a change then they need labs every 12 weeks
@jackolee pretty much nailed it.
I started at a clinic where all they did was men’s health. They started me on 100mg a week and I was blood tested after six weeks, rinse repeat. Eventually I figured my stuff out and luckily, I’m pretty simple, about 150mg a week with nothing else. At that I tend to run about 650 in trough. I switched to a gp that would let me shoot at home and he tests me every twelve weeks, just before my next refill.
You really do need to start with a specialist though to get it all figured out. There can be a lot more to it than my experience. If you can figure out why you’re low and restart somehow, you’re better off.
Have you ever seen anyone with a successful restart
I haven’t in terms of hypogonadism, but I wouldn’t expect to hear about it in a TRT forum - once you start on TRT, you’re kind of all in.
I quit a few months ago and my production did come back - still low though. Went back on six weeks ago.
Dang then im probably going to waste my time even trying
Have you already started TRT?
yes I been on it for two years im only 30yrs old
You can try a PCT restart, kind of a hassle unless you have an informed doctor. There’s a HPTA restart thread here
The original cause of low t would determine if the restart is worth trying, and I’m not sure what causes qualify as being valid to try one.
Not much help, sorry.
At this point, my doc hasn’t given many suggestions. Or any - I’m the one who suggested checking my thyroid, due to family history of thyroid problems.
@ChickenLittle, your question is right on. My labs came back on the low end of normal, meaning they won’t do anything. The bugger is the thyroid can intermittently spit out a little hormone, enough to fool the labs, then will quit working for a while. I suspect that’s the case with me, but finding a doc who’ll do more than a superficial investigation is very difficult in my area.
I’m not ready to even look into TRT; my boys need to maintain their employment as long as they can 