[quote]dgallagher88 wrote:
Sounds to me like carb intake/timing is mainly dependent on your goals. Since you’re looking to gain strength and size you shouldn’t worry nearly as much about carbs as someone looking to cut. Just don’t overdo it with the carbs and stay within your daily P/C/F macros.
If loading up on starchier carbs around your workout works for you then stick to it by all means.[/quote]
dgallagher88,
Judging from the photos you posted in (6 Week Bulk Progress Pics), you have no room to be handing out advise…
[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
What is your post-workout shake? Does it include high-GI carbs?[/quote]
Right now it’s peanut butter, 2% milk, and some Body Fortress whey/creatine (52g protein and 270 cals from the powder). I’m planning on looking for a new brand once I finish this container, but I still have about 3 weeks worth left.
So do most people not worry about what time of day they’re eating carbs as long as they’re taking in some protein at the same time? Was that article aimed more at people who have plateaued?
And I’m de-yolking the eggs bc the I’m taking in about 450% the RDA for cholesterol if I don’t use just whites; the whey powder I’m using has about 90 mg of cholesterol just in itself (one of the reasons I’ll be shopping around)[/quote]
Like CT said, you want an insulin spike straight after your work out, so that is your best time to take on high-GI carbs. Ideally you don’t want insulin spikes before bed, for example. Its not so much the time of day, it’s the time relative to when your workout is.
Real men eat the whole egg. Just saying.
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This is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what CT has said. Do you people even read or just make up your own shit as you go.
It’s fine if you have an opinion that you can back up with results but dont say “CT said…” and completely ruin his message. [/quote]
Please explain.
“Any other time [besides breakfast and post-workout] is not a good time to consume a significant amount of carbs”…surely then breakfast and post workout are a good time to consume a significant amount of carbs?
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How old is that quote? Link?
Have you read the research behind the anaconda protocol? Large spikes in amino acids at strategic points during the day + carbs before a workout to fuel it. Then there is the research that shows how catecholamine levels are high after a workout and remain high after a workout. When catecholamine levels are high insulin will not spike.
Therefore taking in simple carbs post workout with the hopes of insulin shuttling them to the muscles has some flaws to it. Too much has been written about this I dont have time to write any more [/quote]
Four paragraphs before the list of good/bad carb sources on page 2
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Yeah thats what I figured. That article is 3 years old.
And to the other question. The aim is not to suppress the rise of catecholamine levels. Im not sure that’s possible or not. The aim is to work around it. I have no intention of posting links or citing studies. I’ve been taking in simple carbs pre workout for over 3 years now. Not gona say I “discovered” anything. It was merely an accident brought on by necessity but I know what works for me. It has also worked for lot of other people and now theres science to back it up. [/quote]
[quote]EasyRhino wrote:
jamo have you had your cholesterol tested? Is it at all a problem?
For most folks, dietary cholesterol has little effect on blood cholesterol. Other aspects of diet, exercise, and bodyfatness matter more. Plus, if you don’t have a problem with cholesterol, then eating it isn’t a problem either, and yolks are a handy source of calories, vitamins, and proteins.[/quote]
Further to what ER posted, the yolks of eggs contain a phospholipid (i.e. chemical compound) called lecithin, which blocks the absorbtion of cholesterol thereby rendering much of the cholesterol found in egg yolks unabsorbable. This inhibition isn’t 100%, but it is significant. You can also supplement with lecithin pills to further prevent absorption.
if i were you I would consume a fair amount of carbs at breakfast to break the fast, I would consume a fair amount before your workout for energy and after your workout I would wait 20 to 30 minutes to allow catecholamine levels to come down so your body will process nutrients and protein and carbs and consume about 60 - 80 fast digesting carbs (waxy Maize) and 50 - 60 grams of fast digesting protein (whey isolate) once again 20 to 30 carbs after your workout then wait another 30 minutes and have a high protein high carb meal.
[quote]curiouskevin911 wrote:
if i were you I would consume a fair amount of carbs at breakfast to break the fast, I would consume a fair amount before your workout for energy and after your workout I would wait 20 to 30 minutes to allow catecholamine levels to come down so your body will process nutrients and protein and carbs and consume about 60 - 80 fast digesting carbs (waxy Maize) and 50 - 60 grams of fast digesting protein (whey isolate) once again 20 to 30 carbs after your workout then wait another 30 minutes and have a high protein high carb meal.[/quote]
Where is that “20-30 minute wait time” figure coming from? Did you make that up?