so, when i started lifting back at the end of january, i set a short term goal to bench 250. thought id be pretty happy about that when i hit it. (i started at about 180).
not so much actually. relatively anti-climactic. put up 260 yesteday, after a couple working sets. newb gains, but still thought id be happier. especially after having to work through a shoulder issue. all it did was make me realize that a buddy of mine was right: “unless you bench at least 300, you aint sht”
so now ive set new goals: short term bench 300, near term 350. short term squat 400, near term 500. short term dead lift 450, near term 550.
more or less using this thread as a date stamp on when i set these new goals and see how long it takes to meet them.
pyramided up to 275x2 today. added an extra 20lbs for 295 and almost got it. left side just wouldnt play ball. thinking that if i had not just done three sets of muscle failure prior to that lift, i would have gotten it. apparently im closer to 300 than i thought. new adjusted goal is 315 (three plates) before i go home.
Wow, either I’m really lame or those standards are a little high. A legit 315 bench is above average for even the general lifting population. A raw 405 bench is a great lift. 500 is getting to world-class level.
[quote]rmccart1 wrote:
Wow, either I’m really lame or those standards are a little high. A legit 315 bench is above average for even the general lifting population. A raw 405 bench is a great lift. 500 is getting to world-class level.[/quote]
No doubt 315 is better then most, but after being in the 300 pound range, it begins to feel like when benching in the 200’s, if you’re following. Once you do it, it’s done and you need more, and I’m sure it feels the same way for someone who benches 500, but many people that don’t lift don’t grasp that concept. I want 405 raw so bad right now, when I hit a new max it never feels like enough even though 345 raw is heavy I’m not satisfied and being hungry for more is the best way to grow.
[quote]Zagman wrote:
I disagree, 300 ain’t shit, but 315 is fricken phenomenal. 3 plates just looks better, more official like.
You went from 260 to 295 in a week?[/quote]
why does there always have to be a smart ass?
three plates is just another goal. should it really matter how i set my goals? whether it be by wieght, size, or being able to drop the two 35’s at the ends and replace them with 45’s.
and no, i didnt bring my bench from 260 to 295 in a week. i didnt actually get 295 up, and i was probably maxing more than 260 when i posted this thread originally. read the post, it says after working sets. means i was fatigued.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
i don’t think he’s making fun of you. Stop being so sensitive, he didn’t say something like “you’re a weak bitch.”[/quote]
lol. sorry. my sarcasm must not have been evident in my last post. after spending a couple years on deployments and trying not to get my ass blown off, flaming on internet message boards just isnt going to get to me.
this is an awesome site, btw. lots of good articles, and as soon as i get home ill be ordering some Biotest products. i currently use a competitors products, but thats all they sell in the px here.
i did have a question about Surge. its a post-workout supp, correct? and one serving is a little below my average post-workout protien intake (usually take about 50g’s). Does the formula allow for a lower protien intake, or should i just take and extra scoop?
anywho, this thread was more or less for me to track my progress, but any input is appreciated. the more the merrier.
Unless you’re a lean 250 or so, you really don’t need 50 grams of protein post-workout. 20 is actually plenty for most people at that time, but we all like to think “I need more protein than other people!”
By the way, the protein hydrolosate will be more effective than whey concentrate or isolate, yes. Don’t forget it also has a bunch of BCAAs in there.
ive read alot of controversy regarding how much protien is needed. i would cost a lot less to reduce my post-workout intake though. i’ll give it a shot and see how it works.
[quote]rmccart1 wrote:
Unless you’re a lean 250 or so, you really don’t need 50 grams of protein post-workout. 20 is actually plenty for most people at that time, but we all like to think “I need more protein than other people!”
By the way, the protein hydrolosate will be more effective than whey concentrate or isolate, yes. Don’t forget it also has a bunch of BCAAs in there.[/quote]
Are you one of the people that believe the body can only absorb and utilize 20g of protein at a time?
To the OP, I’d stick with 40+ grams post workout. Just my opinion.
[quote]grappler_123 wrote:
pyramided up to 275x2 today. added an extra 20lbs for 295 and almost got it. left side just wouldnt play ball. thinking that if i had not just done three sets of muscle failure prior to that lift, i would have gotten it. apparently im closer to 300 than i thought. new adjusted goal is 315 (three plates) before i go home. [/quote]
Glad you adjusted to 315. 300 is not really exciting. 3 plates, boy you feel awesome. I hit that about 18 months ago. Since then I dieted off alot of fat and unfortunately before I learned about nutrition, a considerable amount of muscle. But I’m coming up on 3 plates again in the very near future. So lets let each other know when we get it. Call it a race. I’ll be putting up 260-265 for 5 tomorrow. So get on your giddy-up boy.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
rmccart1 wrote:
Unless you’re a lean 250 or so, you really don’t need 50 grams of protein post-workout. 20 is actually plenty for most people at that time, but we all like to think “I need more protein than other people!”
By the way, the protein hydrolosate will be more effective than whey concentrate or isolate, yes. Don’t forget it also has a bunch of BCAAs in there.
Are you one of the people that believe the body can only absorb and utilize 20g of protein at a time?
To the OP, I’d stick with 40+ grams post workout. Just my opinion.[/quote]
I read you only absorb like 3-10% of what you eat anyway, so if you can only absorb 20 grams at a sitting then that would be like 200+ grams you would have to eat. It was in the warrior diet article.