Time Magazine Article: The White Supremacist Origins of Exercise

Did anyone read this yet?

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Normally I would subconsciously cause my face to contort and then skip it with disgust for the title.

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Written by a woman, during a time when racism and woman’s equality is forefront in everyone’s mind, it is hardly surprising that this “historical” report is published.

It lacked the mention of the influence of Arnold’s film exposure to men wanting to build muscle. You could argue it wasn’t the cause, but you cannot argue the correlation. At all.

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I just did.

Typical Time magazine stuff. Not very informative, has all of the feel good magic words.

My grand parents might tell you that you need to be big and strong so that you can work hard, get paid, etc. But now that this lady has clarified that it was white supremacy and not competing ethnic groups of all types, I can sleep better at night knowing that my grandparents were just racist and not broadly misanthropic. :rofl:

And the work gangs during the great depression- “Put some meat on your bones” sounds a lot to me like eating, which many people could not do very well at the time.

I’m sure I could go on, but it would just be some dumb sctots irish kid from the coal patch railing against the smart people who know what these things “really mean”.
:rofl:

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Arnold is Austrian. You know who else was Austrian? Sorry, but you cannot argue the correlation. At all.

Even Arnold’s name is white supremacist and racist.

Now, I’m being facetious, but I bet if that broad found out how Schwarz and negger translate to English she would’ve probably argue something like that.

Doesn’t it just mean “black” “ridge”? That’s quite the stretch to be racist.

Of course, you can correct me if you like.

I would correct you but it’s not like I can.
It isn’t ridge.

“The demand for white supremacy far exceeds its supply.”

This article does a good job of proving such.

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This is craptastically poorly written. No literary reference is given next to the quotes. Until the mid to late 80’s lifting and bodybuilding were considered on the fringe. I would get a lot of the dumb questions when I started lifting in 1979. There was a lot of diversity in bodybuilding early on. Sure there was racism, but the incoherent writing style in this article makes it seem like an absolute atrocity. People need to start worrying about today and tomorrow and how to move forward together.

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An older article.

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An article that actually kind of makes sense, that other one was all over the place.

This is one of the most logical fallacy-ridden articles I’ve ever read. A bunch of false equivalency and strawman with almost no hard evidence to back up any claim.

@tlgains can you explain which parts of this article make sense to you? I’m genuinely interested to know.

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Well that is a first for me. Discrimination against overweight people is now labeled “weightism”?

I suppose I am a full blown weightist. I believe the fairest (most logical) fee for air travel should be $$$/lb. That pretty much describes “your fair share.”

I do agree there is a strong economic component to an optimal diet for ideal weight results. But not too sure racism is the actual cause. If a culture favors one shape above other shapes, I don’t see that as racist. But then again, Barbie is charged with causing women to attempt to achieve an impossible shape. But, that is back to culture and not some “ism”.

I practiced insulin management decades before the public began to become aware of its ability to strongly influence fat accumulation due to diet. Dietary knowledge was difficult to find. Affluent people sought out dietary assistance from the experts. The internet leveled the field for everyone. Now the sole excuse is either your desire to rectify your condition or lack of money to carry out a good diet.

I suppose many could argue racism causes the economic situation. But those living in the suburbs have access to achievable dietary requirements to control their weight.

Now that I have angered many. I should say that I wish all fat women achieve the shape and health they desire.

“ Low-income Black neighborhoods are often disproportionately impacted by a lack of potable water and higher levels of environmental toxins and air pollution. These factors add to the risk for respiratory illnesses such as asthma and lung disease. They also increase the chance of serious complications from COVID-19.”

“ Further, these neighborhoods typically have a surfeit of fast-food chains and a dearth of grocery stores offering more nutritious food choices. Food insecurity, which is defined as the lack of access to safe, affordable and nutritious foods, has a strong association with chronic illness independent of BMI.”

Only these paragraphs tbh

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Fair points, but do you think these factors make it any less important for overweight folks to lose weight?

Sounds like the “Do I have good enough genetics to put on muscle” excuse

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Lol HELL NO.

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Food insecurity is the reason why most Americans, regardless of race, make poor food choices and are fat? Obesity is an American problem, not a black American problem, and black people who are obese are obese for the same reasons as obese white people.

And there are supermarkets in inner cities but if there weren’t, there would be if there was a demand for them. One more thing, most food sold in supermarkets is processed crap that is no better than fast food. People who want to eat healthy will find a way to eat healthy.

I agree with your position on this post, but there are numerous studies which show that supermarkets are less prevalent in a [supermarket per capita] rate within inner cities.

You are correct that those who want to eat healthy will find a way to do so, but I’m on board with trying to fix the above issue. Not for the sake of equity or anything like that… if anything, to remove the excuse for folks to blame their skin color (or mine) for their health outcome.

I built a couple of Save-a-lots in a really bad part of town.

Windows were shot out 3 times with an ak while we were building it.

Several bodies were dumped/left there, delaying construction.

20+ cameras and microphones at each checkout aisle.

Employer ordered quit time of 4:30- get out before it gets dark.

1 co-worker jacked, van full of tools and equipment stolen.

Before the doors even opened for business.

It was state and county mandated/subsidized due to the requirement that section 8 housing have supermarkets accessible by public transportation and within a three mile radius.

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