Time Magazine Article: The White Supremacist Origins of Exercise

Supply and demand.

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To what degree can you gauge demand if there is no supply?

Yeah, definitely stupid, but I also felt the backlash was a bit exaggerated. There a lot of half truths and lies by omission.

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I work for the 3rd largest grocery store company in the country, and the stores in the inner city often become more hassle than they’re worth. Between the higher taxes, lower sales numbers, logistical headache and absolute constant theft , they’re sometimes barely breaking even. We’ve been pretty aggressively expanding, building and buying new locations, but there are always places we just won’t touch and they’re almost always in inner city spots that have decayed in the past 20 years. How many times have you gone by a closed store and thought, “why doesn’t another company buy that?” Well, if it don’t make money it don’t make sense.

Often the only places you see open in those areas are co ops and heavily subsidized non profits. Believe me, we’d love to sell groceries to as many people as possible, but only if there’s actually money to be made.

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Look at what many people in the inner cities prefer to eat. Not only that, but they don’t cook. I lived in the inner city and I saw what people bought at the supermarket. You want inner city residents to eat healthier? Regulate what foodstamps can be used for. You’re talking about a population that has a lower sense of accountability than other populations and that applies to their own health as well as other personal responsibilities, like raising kids that aren’t sociopaths. Open up a supermarket on every corner that give vegetables and fruits away for free and it won’t make a difference.

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Awful lot of generalizations there, considering you did not answer my question.

I’d say it’s a pleasure to have these conversations with you, but


Because the entire premise is based on generalizations.

The article is absolute dogshit, and it’s even more infuriating that she could have written a wholly factual article about how pullups and dips were popularized as a part of a toolkit to fight the Jooooz.

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I hate everything about this article and what the author is insinuating in the book.

She touches on the fact that previously “fat” was seen as “attractive” - only in the sense that those who were fat were affluent because they could afford excess food. This would surely be an “attractive” (not physically) mate for someone from a lower socio-economic status for the chance to move on up.

From the Article:

What’s so unfortunate about the pandemic is how much it accelerated fitness inequality. You can go home and be on your Peloton if you can afford it, if you have the space for it, but not everyone can.

I find this to be an extremely lazy excuse and a convenient cop out. You don’t need a peloton or other fancy equipment to get in shape. Push-ups, body weight work, and other calesthenics take up only as much space as your body does and can provide one heck of a workout. Yoga is incredibly strengthening and many routines can be found for free on YouTube (even most who don’t have gym access/home gym equipment have internet access at their home).

Today, you see quite a few fat people in the fitness industry, who are operating from a better perspective, which is that your body size does not necessarily dictate your fitness level. We should not presume that because you are fat, that you are not fit or that you want to lose weight

This needs nuance - define “fat”. Are we talking obese or just slightly overweight? Science tells us that being obese is in fact not healthy and is actually an indicator of one’s fitness levels. No obese person is running a 5k as fast as say, a crossfitter. Even elite open weight class powerlifters wouldn’t say they are “fit” even though they are athletes in the sense they excel at a singular sport.

The entire article seems disingenuous and more about pushing an agenda than fitness.
The true pandemic in modern world is the inability to recognize obesity for the burden it truly is.

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I doubt fat was ever physically attractive. Just look at ancient Greek statues.

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That is a rather ignorant thing to say tbh.

Oh Baby
I wanna get with ya!
Cause your pants don’t fit ya!

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I’m not saying individuals, maybe you or Rubens for example, are not attracted to fat people but in what culture is Rosie O’Donnell considered ideal?

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“Ignorant” would imply lack of knowledge/understanding. I don’t think this is accurate here, and i agree with @zecarlo’s take.

There may be a couple cultures which found fat attractive, but they are absolutely the exception - not the rule.

Zecarlo you said “ever” in your statement, stating that you doubt there were/are cultures that find fat attractive.

I also said I doubt so go play semantics with someone else.

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True

Aw crap now I’m embarrassed

I can only speak for myself. I have always found softness (requires some fat tissue) of a woman’s body to be intensely attractive. But I find obesity extremely unattractive.

So what I am saying is that “fat” is not an “either”, “or” attraction. It is more of a percent fat ideal. I lean a little toward the more fat “feel.” If she feels too hard (masculine), I don’t find much attraction.

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Mauritania, parts of Chad, some Berber tribes in Western Sahara and Morocco, many Hausa tribes in northern Nigeria


I don’t think the men find fat women beautiful but rather, forcing them to be fat is about their primitive need to demonstrate their power and control over women. They aren’t looking for a woman to fall in love with; they want a woman so they can show other men they are “real” men.

When men from these shitholes go to Western nations, they suddenly find the ideal western look attractive.