Thursday: Prime Time

Getting ready to take off for Discus Camp…so in between packing and prepping, I am willing to talk about all the keys to success.

Good morning Dan.

  1. Do you think oatmeal is good w/eggs for breakfast for fiber?

  2. What’s your favorite thing to throw and why?

  3. Do you stretch statically for injury prevention/recovery? I know you feel that most of your flexibility comes from doing the quick lifts and overhead squats.

  4. Do you think that the “high sodium is bad for you” thing is incorrect? Especially for high blood pressure?

Dan,
I listened to your D-Tap last nighta and I realy enjoyed.

You said that a strong base of lifting consists of bodyweight snatches, presses and double bodyweight deads.

What’s a good score for the weighted chin? Plus a certain % of bodyweight?

Robert, don’t get ahead of yourself. A chin is a good goal for most people. Five would be grand, ten is great. My goal (nailed it in January) was 21…because of no real reason.

After you get over, 20, then march your way up with ten pounds, twenty…but, really, doing chins is great. Having said all that, I need to add this:

If you weigh 110 and chin ten times don’t brag about it to a guy who weighs 265 and chins 8 times…

[quote]Robert Monti wrote:
Dan,
I listened to your D-Tap last nighta and I realy enjoyed.

You said that a strong base of lifting consists of bodyweight snatches, presses and double bodyweight deads.

What’s a good score for the weighted chin? Plus a certain % of bodyweight?[/quote]

[quote]BPC wrote:
Good morning Dan.

  1. Do you think oatmeal is good w/eggs for breakfast for fiber?[/quote]

DJ: Yes.

DJ: This is far too personal to ask in a forum.

DJ: My “injury prevention” program is striving not to get hit by things, drop things upon self, nor slip down onto things. I think stretching has little value in injury prevention. In my time, most injuries to me and my athletes were caused by other people or things whacking them.

DJ: Ask Lonnie L about these kinds of things. I know that drinking salt water when marooned on a raft in the ocean is bad for you (see Tom Hank’s in “Castaway” for more information), but I have no idea…

hello DJ…

2 topics:

Why do thrower have big numbers in the OLifts, sometimes even bigger than legitimate Olifters of the same weight???

Have you had success with the clean grip power snatch? What “special” stimulus does this lift have that the conventional PS/PC don’t have? Do you think an Olifter can get benefit from this? What weight are appropiate for this lift?

BTW, I’ve had great success in Olifts with your “one inch a second” drill…a definite gem!

Thanks in advance.

[quote]Danny John wrote:
BPC wrote:
Good morning Dan.

  1. Do you think oatmeal is good w/eggs for breakfast for fiber?

DJ: Yes.

  1. What’s your favorite thing to throw and why?

DJ: This is far too personal to ask in a forum.

  1. Do you stretch statically for injury prevention/recovery? I know you feel that most of your flexibility comes from doing the quick lifts and overhead squats.

DJ: My “injury prevention” program is striving not to get hit by things, drop things upon self, nor slip down onto things. I think stretching has little value in injury prevention. In my time, most injuries to me and my athletes were caused by other people or things whacking them.

  1. Do you think that the “high sodium is bad for you” thing is incorrect? Especially for high blood pressure?

DJ: Ask Lonnie L about these kinds of things. I know that drinking salt water when marooned on a raft in the ocean is bad for you (see Tom Hank’s in “Castaway” for more information), but I have no idea…
[/quote]

  1. Cool, thanks.

  2. Sorry.

  3. Hahahah-funny but good point

  4. Point well taken

[quote]skullcowboy wrote:
hello DJ…

2 topics:

Why do thrower have big numbers in the OLifts, sometimes even bigger than legitimate Olifters of the same weight???[/quote]

DJ: Well, in my case, throwers are very aggressive. I literally couldn’t stomach letting others beat me…so, percentages, periodization and peaking never worked. I’m as laid back a thrower as there has ever been and I scare people playing yahtzee…so, that might be part of it.

DJ: I like it because I can do high reps without any wrist issues. You can sneak up to 200 pounds on this without really going crazy. One thing…advantage…is you whip the hell out of the bar versus slow/slow/slow. Yes, O lifters can use it…to learn to whack the big lever of the upper body.

[quote]BTW, I’ve had great success in Olifts with your “one inch a second” drill…a definite gem!

Thanks in advance.[/quote]

Thanks DJ…I’ll try to include that move in the Big55 scheme.

Dan,

I noticed that when you were teaching people how to squat w/the ball and the shaolin style at the bootcamp, the people were only squatting to about parallel. When you snatch and overhead squat don’t you squat ass to the grass or almost all the way down?

I have to ask this: have you ever competed in a HG or a meet where you were “hung over” from the night before or do you have some sort of policy (created by yourself)where you refrain from alcohol the night before a big meet?

I think I know what your answer will be but who would win one on one to 10 points: Shaq (in his prime) vs. Wilt (in his prime) and why?

When you made the comment that you ran a 10k run and were fine just by doing olifts 5 days per week, what rep ranges were you using? 3 sets of 8 reps w/1 minute rest in between?

Dan,

Re: Tabatas-on the crossfit site, they show the video demo of a guy doing tabata squats only going down to where his butt is touching a big medicine ball. He’s also going very fast and doing about 22 reps per 20 seconds. So is that correct for tabatas? I thought you recommended using a little more weight and going a little slower at around 10 reps or so per 20 seconds also squatting deeper than that?

Please advise.

Hello DJ.
I’m curious of that when it comes to doing Power Cleans, how important is the jump when you bounce the weight to your chest.

I can’t seem to be able to get myself in the air when going a bit heavier on the Power Cleans… So should I reduce the weight and go lighter and do the jump, and work up from there?
And yes, I’m new to the lift.

Thanks for all the motivating articles, hope we’ll see more of them. :slight_smile:

[quote]BPC wrote:
Dan,

I noticed that when you were teaching people how to squat w/the ball and the shaolin style at the bootcamp, the people were only squatting to about parallel. When you snatch and overhead squat don’t you squat ass to the grass or almost all the way down?[/quote]

DJ: it was a drill. A drill.

[quote]
I have to ask this: have you ever competed in a HG or a meet where you were “hung over” from the night before or do you have some sort of policy (created by yourself)where you refrain from alcohol the night before a big meet?[/quote]

DJ: Policy? No…good idea, yes.

DJ: I really don’t remember exactly, but it would have been when I was simply getting workouts in…so, it doesn’t matter.

I do them with weight, they do them without. So, be sure to note the difference in your journal…

The clean grip snatch is a PERFECT Big 55 exercise. You can ‘swim’ through a variety of reps and get some sore traps…[quote]skullcowboy wrote:
Thanks DJ…I’ll try to include that move in the Big55 scheme.[/quote]

What is your take on random, chaotic training? Other than your workout randomizer, any tips for setting it up? Do you think it’s necessary for success?

Nathan

Well, you can get pretty good just jumping as hard as you can once the bar is one inch above the knees. biggerfasterstronger.com has a great video on this…starring a very young coach who is so handsome that it defies belief…on the Power Clean. It lasts 57 minutes and worth the money. I get nothing for it, but I think it is quality…

[quote]Tears wrote:
Hello DJ.
I’m curious of that when it comes to doing Power Cleans, how important is the jump when you bounce the weight to your chest.

I can’t seem to be able to get myself in the air when going a bit heavier on the Power Cleans… So should I reduce the weight and go lighter and do the jump, and work up from there?
And yes, I’m new to the lift.

Thanks for all the motivating articles, hope we’ll see more of them. :slight_smile: [/quote]

I think that random/chaotic training is maybe the final frontier for a lot of us. Somehow, and I have written a lot on this elsewhere, training in a general “chaotic” method seems to be as valuable to the national level lifter and thrower…note: I didn’t say O champ or Nat champ, simply, someone who sneaks into the Top “Whatever”…as pure specificity.

In other words, I can gather perhaps up to 90-95% of my ability by doing things in a general fashion…games, GPP, odd stuff, Highland Games, flag football, Roll the Dice Lifting, or whatever…as totally specific classic periodization.

I have actually “proved” this with myself and others over the years. It is not perfect and it assumes a lot of things. Rande Treece pointed out that I (DJ) would probably win most Masters Meets simply by “showing up.” My technique is fairly sound after decades of coaching and throwing and I am in “good enough” shape to win.

There was a guy on the local news this morning here in Utah who was once again bragging about his “status” as a Masters thrower, but (he is a former football player) I still throw most events practically double his distance. That is a fair amount of cushion in a sport measured by centimeters…

So, yes, I believe. No, I can’t explain all of it.

[quote]vitruvian wrote:
What is your take on random, chaotic training? Other than your workout randomizer, any tips for setting it up? Do you think it’s necessary for success?

Nathan[/quote]

[quote]Danny John wrote:
BPC wrote:
Dan,

I noticed that when you were teaching people how to squat w/the ball and the shaolin style at the bootcamp, the people were only squatting to about parallel. When you snatch and overhead squat don’t you squat ass to the grass or almost all the way down?

DJ: it was a drill. A drill.

I have to ask this: have you ever competed in a HG or a meet where you were “hung over” from the night before or do you have some sort of policy (created by yourself)where you refrain from alcohol the night before a big meet?

DJ: Policy? No…good idea, yes.

I think I know what your answer will be but who would win one on one to 10 points: Shaq (in his prime) vs. Wilt (in his prime) and why?

When you made the comment that you ran a 10k run and were fine just by doing olifts 5 days per week, what rep ranges were you using? 3 sets of 8 reps w/1 minute rest in between?

DJ: I really don’t remember exactly, but it would have been when I was simply getting workouts in…so, it doesn’t matter.

[/quote]

  1. I see, thanks.

  2. ahahaha

  3. Wilt right?

  4. You absolutely HATE details huh?

Thanks Dan. Good luck with your discuss event.

G’day Dan,

I finally got to listen to your D-Tap interview with Shugs last night, I enjoyed it a lot, it was great to “hear” your sense of humour rather than just read it!

I have a question about the stuff you spoke about in the interview, specifically doing most of your weight training with the “basics”, where you said you do a deadlift, a press, a row, a quick lift and then abs.

My question is how often do you implement variations of the lifts? E.g. Do you do the same thing for 2-3 weeks to allow the body to get used to the exercise before changing? Or is it just whatever you feel like when you start the workout? My money is on Option B, must be something to do with the random, chaotic training thing… but I wouldn’t mind clarification!

Also, how often would you change the set/rep parameters? Something different each workout or the same thing for one week then different for the next?

Another question about an article on your website. I had a lokk at the “spider web”, which gives an idea on where your lifts should be relative to each other. Are these values in pounds or kilograms?

Cheers,

Ben

PS Have a good time at discus camp.