Have it? Want it? Never buying it??
I personally have a very strong distaste for the OS due to my my reservations concerning Microsoft’s digital rights nazism. Their willingness to strip users of any rights whatsoever is deeply unsettling for me.
At any rate, I’m running Ubuntu and XP currently and I really don’t see Vista making its way on to this system.
Any thoughts?
Not buying it.
Expensive bells and whistles, and it won’t run CAD. Might as well be a Mac.
Not until I’m forced to. I buy a computer to run programs, not an OS. Vista looks like an expensive load of perfumed crap.
I just hope that they will still sell computers with XP. My laptop is getting old, and I really need a new computer, I should have bought one before vista came out.
How long will they sell computers with xp on them, or have they quit?
Maybe they will be on sale.
Buy a Mac.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
I just hope that they will still sell computers with XP. My laptop is getting old, and I really need a new computer, I should have bought one before vista came out.
How long will they sell computers with xp on them, or have they quit?
Maybe they will be on sale.[/quote]
Check out http://www.geeks.com/
[quote]dillinger wrote:
Buy a Mac.[/quote]
Won’t run higher end MCAD.
Wow. I got on DELL and Best-buy’s websites, and neither had XP anymore. So I guess the few XP computers at wal-mart are all thats left, and they will be gone soon.
[quote]jedidiah wrote:
Have it? Want it? Never buying it?
I personally have a very strong distaste for the OS due to my my reservations concerning Microsoft’s digital rights nazism. Their willingness to strip users of any rights whatsoever is deeply unsettling for me.
At any rate, I’m running Ubuntu and XP currently and I really don’t see Vista making its way on to this system.
Any thoughts?[/quote]
Awesome. I was going to suggest Ubuntu but I see you already have it.
Do you have the newer Edgy (6.10) or Dapper (6.06)?
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Wow. I got on DELL and Best-buy’s websites, and neither had XP anymore. So I guess the few XP computers at wal-mart are all thats left, and they will be gone soon.[/quote]
Just use Ubuntu. Or you can get yourself a copy of XP and install it on whichever computer you want.
I have a Pentium 2 with 64 Megs ram running XP. You really don’t need a new computer. Just clean up the old one a bit.
[quote]dillinger wrote:
Buy a Mac.[/quote]
Looking at Mac. Drooling.
But I suggest not getting one for a few months or until they release the new BluRay/HDDVD combo drive for it.
Then you can play and burn BOTH HD movie formats.
Lets not forget the new Notebook screens coming in a few months. LED backlight that uses less power and is brighter than current lamp. Plus you have longer battery.
And the new processors Intel is releasing next year that are smaller and more efficient (produce less heat too) since they developed a new technology and are outfitting their plants.
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
dillinger wrote:
Buy a Mac.
Looking at Mac. Drooling.
But I suggest not getting one for a few months or until they release the new BluRay/HDDVD combo drive for it.
Then you can play and burn BOTH HD movie formats.
Lets not forget the new Notebook screens coming in a few months. LED backlight that uses less power and is brighter than current lamp. Plus you have longer battery.
And the new processors Intel is releasing next year that are smaller and more efficient (produce less heat too) since they developed a new technology and are outfitting their plants.[/quote]
Intel’s already on the 45nm process, are they going even smaller than that next year? Geez, talk about hardware being ahead of the software development curve.
I used a Mac for the first time in a long while about a week ago. It was much snappier and cleaner running than XP. Kinda makes me wonder what the fuck Microsoft is doing that requires so much more by way of system resources.
Scratch that, I actually have a pretty good idea. OS X Leopard also runs Linux programs, which probably means I’ll pick it up and triple boot XP for work, Vista Ultimate for play, and Leopard for other work using GRUB. God bless third party bootloaders.
Vista isn’t just bells and whistles to high-end users with many gigabytes of RAM and DX10 video cards. Superfetching alone makes it worth the free university download to me 
Nothing that I use will run on Vista except games and Word, though, since it seems the licensing systems on the professional software I use are dependent on bits of the XP kernel that was abandoned for Vista.
Vista might be worth it in a year or so if you get it OEM. The retail kits are ridiculously expensive though, I have no idea how they get off charging that much for ripped off elements of OS X and Linux plus 2 or 3 new features; I won’t be paying for it, I can tell you that much.
I’ve had Business for a few weeks and the constant confirmations of file actions are already pissing me off. For the love of God, MAKE A CUSTOMIZABLE ALLOW LIST!!! It’s a couple dozen more lines of code!
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
brucevangeorge wrote:
dillinger wrote:
Buy a Mac.
I’ve had Business for a few weeks and the constant confirmations of file actions are already pissing me off. For the love of God, MAKE A CUSTOMIZABLE ALLOW LIST!!! It’s a couple dozen more lines of code![/quote]
Funny Mac commercial about that… it’s funny cause it’s true.
http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
jedidiah wrote:
Have it? Want it? Never buying it?
I personally have a very strong distaste for the OS due to my my reservations concerning Microsoft’s digital rights nazism. Their willingness to strip users of any rights whatsoever is deeply unsettling for me.
At any rate, I’m running Ubuntu and XP currently and I really don’t see Vista making its way on to this system.
Any thoughts?
Awesome. I was going to suggest Ubuntu but I see you already have it.
Do you have the newer Edgy (6.10) or Dapper (6.06)?[/quote]
I’m using edgy. I’m not very experienced with it yet as I just got it. Right now, I’m trying to make beryl play nice with my nvidia card (read: stop crashing). At any rate, it’s a lot of fun and basically perfect if you know what you’re doing since it lets you control every aspect of your computer.
To me, OS X is like a “computer playcenter” for adults. Read this article on MACs, some of the best writing I’ve ever seen: I hate Macs | Charlie Brooker | The Guardian
I like what Ubuntu is doing on a practical level. Additionally, on a more philosophical level I am a huge proponent of hte free as in free movement and definitely think open source is the way the world should be headed.
We’ll see where things go.
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
Scratch that, I actually have a pretty good idea. OS X Leopard also runs Linux programs, which probably means I’ll pick it up and triple boot XP for work, Vista Ultimate for play, and Leopard for other work using GRUB. God bless third party bootloaders.[/quote]
Yup. And if you ever wanted to commit blasphemy you can even istall Vista on a Intel Mac. God forbid.
[quote]
Vista isn’t just bells and whistles to high-end users with many gigabytes of RAM and DX10 video cards.[/quote]
Yes. We all have thousands in cash lying around in order to build a computer that can run Vista decently.
[quote]
Superfetching alone makes it worth the free university download to me :)[/quote]
It takes a long time for superfetching to be put into effect since it monitors your habits on the computer in order to “give you files when it thinks you need them”. Sounds like bullshit to me.
[quote]
Vista might be worth it in a year or so if you get it OEM.[/quote]
Or free.
[quote]
I’ve had Business for a few weeks and the constant confirmations of file actions are already pissing me off. For the love of God, MAKE A CUSTOMIZABLE ALLOW LIST!!! It’s a couple dozen more lines of code![/quote]
The more they write the slower it gets. With the extra dozen lines of code you’re gonna need another gig of ram.
[quote]jedidiah wrote:
I’m using edgy. I’m not very experienced with it yet as I just got it. Right now, I’m trying to make beryl play nice with my nvidia card (read: stop crashing). At any rate, it’s a lot of fun and basically perfect if you know what you’re doing since it lets you control every aspect of your computer.[/quote]
Awesome. I used Dapper but let it go since a few things were really pissing me off and i couldn’t wait for Edgy.
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
jedidiah wrote:
I’m using edgy. I’m not very experienced with it yet as I just got it. Right now, I’m trying to make beryl play nice with my nvidia card (read: stop crashing). At any rate, it’s a lot of fun and basically perfect if you know what you’re doing since it lets you control every aspect of your computer.
Awesome. I used Dapper but let it go since a few things were really pissing me off and i couldn’t wait for Edgy.
Is Flash 9/10 out? Even beta?
Can you use an iPod with it? (It took me two days of trial and error to get my nano half-working).
Can you use GLX?[/quote]
I have read that ITunes will not work with it.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
brucevangeorge wrote:
jedidiah wrote:
I’m using edgy. I’m not very experienced with it yet as I just got it. Right now, I’m trying to make beryl play nice with my nvidia card (read: stop crashing). At any rate, it’s a lot of fun and basically perfect if you know what you’re doing since it lets you control every aspect of your computer.
Awesome. I used Dapper but let it go since a few things were really pissing me off and i couldn’t wait for Edgy.
Is Flash 9/10 out? Even beta?
Can you use an iPod with it? (It took me two days of trial and error to get my nano half-working).
Can you use GLX?
I have read that ITunes will not work with it.[/quote]
Yes, I have flash 9,0,31,0 installed and it works great.
While itunes doesn’t work, plenty of programs will take care of your ipod. I use GTKpod personally, it works fine.
Do you me XGL? if so, yes
I just bought an oem copy of XP with a free vista upgrade inside.
I’m going to keep using XP for the next year or so, then go to vista when all the bugs have been ironed out and I have the computer to do games on it justice.
You have trouble upgrading your computer with vista, if you do a complete upgrade (mobo, cpu and ram) then you need to buy another copy so I’m going to wait until I have a beast to do it. This only applies to oem purchasers. The retail version is fine to be reinstalled on anything.
I’ll eventually have to upgrade to Vista on my gaming PC, but my Laptop is staying XP until I can figure Ubuntu out enough to make the switch.
I’d buy a Mac, though, if it had ANY sort of gaming going for it (which, despite what Mac’s fanboys say, it doesn’t).