I think Vista isn’t a good product for what you pay (unless you download it :)). From what I’ve seen so far it uses up far more resources idling and the implementation of the “aero” desktop could of been way better.
OS X has a better GUI in my opinion because it doesn’t hog the resources and the graphics are vector-based (they grow/shrink accordingly, minimizing memory and giving a clearer picture). I think Vista fails in the efficiency department, since Microsoft usually overlooks the little things, which in the end can have a big impact on performance. The Vista interface is great in my mind, but the implementation was sloppy.
Even XP could of been much better, but my PC is fast enough now that it runs it no problem.
I think I’ll just stick with windows xp, slackware linux, and wait till I get my macbook pro.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
I’ll eventually have to upgrade to Vista on my gaming PC, but my Laptop is staying XP until I can figure Ubuntu out enough to make the switch.
I’d buy a Mac, though, if it had ANY sort of gaming going for it (which, despite what Mac’s fanboys say, it doesn’t).
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Yeah, my only temptation to get vista is directx 10. Which, at this point, none of my equipment can handle. I’m buying a laptop this summer which will probably run ubuntu exclusively. We’ll see how that goes…
Once you start getting the hang of it, you definitely develop an affection for it because you control every detail of the damn system. At first this is overwhelming but after a while it is very rewarding.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
2. I have read that ITunes will not work with it.[/quote]
iTunes is not made for Linux. Mac and Windows only. That’s why when you go to their site and you select download, you only have two options:
“Mac OSX”
“Windows”
However, you can use an emulation type tool. Crossover Office (or the free version known as Wine) will emulate the features of a Windows PC and you can install PC apps on Linux.
It also works for Mac.
AND:
There’s other apps for linux that emulate DirectX so you can play games like World of Warcraft, Farcry, Doom… etc. On Linux.
[quote]jedidiah wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
I’ll eventually have to upgrade to Vista on my gaming PC, but my Laptop is staying XP until I can figure Ubuntu out enough to make the switch.
I’d buy a Mac, though, if it had ANY sort of gaming going for it (which, despite what Mac’s fanboys say, it doesn’t).
Yeah, my only temptation to get vista is directx 10. Which, at this point, none of my equipment can handle. I’m buying a laptop this summer which will probably run ubuntu exclusively. We’ll see how that goes…
Once you start getting the hang of it, you definitely develop an affection for it because you control every detail of the damn system. At first this is overwhelming but after a while it is very rewarding. [/quote]
One of the “cheapest” options for a good dx10 card was the geforce 8800 GTS, which came in at a whopping 600$ CAN. Ugh, I think I’ll wait a bit
I’m doing my usual duty as an IT pro and playing around with it. So far looks like a colossal waste of disk space. 2000 was MS’s best OS to date. I’ll probably wind up all Linux all the time here pretty soon. I use my Suse machines 85% of the time now anyway.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’m doing my usual duty as an IT pro and playing around with it. So far looks like a colossal waste of disk space. 2000 was MS’s best OS to date. I’ll probably wind up all Linux all the time here pretty soon. I use my Suse machines 85% of the time now anyway.[/quote]
I second that.
2000 was awesome, for the business user. But they improved alot (except for all the security inside) on it when they repackaged it as XP, for the home user.
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I’m doing my usual duty as an IT pro and playing around with it. So far looks like a colossal waste of disk space. 2000 was MS’s best OS to date. I’ll probably wind up all Linux all the time here pretty soon. I use my Suse machines 85% of the time now anyway.
I second that.
2000 was awesome, for the business user. But they improved alot (except for all the security inside) on it when they repackaged it as XP, for the home user.[/quote]
After the second service pack for 2K I started to regain some respect for Microsoft. It was stable and as fast, secure and generally usable as any decent user decided to make it. XP could be “tamed”, but took much more effort than it should have.
This waddling sow has just gone way outta hand without any justification.
It is simply a product of wink n nod back scratching between MS and the hardware suits who have both become unwitting victims of a digitally contented public.
OK, been playing around with Vista for a little while now and I admit it has grown on me a bit. It “feels” kinda like putting on old dirty clothes when I go back to one of my other machines now. I have KVM switch in my livingroom with an XP machine, a Vista machine and a Linux box on it.
When I’ve been playing on the Vista machine for a while and switch to one of the other ones it’s like I got out of a luxury car and got into a 72 pinto or something.
Having said that, functionally, I still like XP better (and 2000 best). Vista is decidedly NOT any easier and in many ways is more tedious than XP. At least for experienced users. I stand by my original assessment that anybody not in the market for a new machine altogether isn’t missing anything much beyond paint n jewelery.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’m doing my usual duty as an IT pro and playing around with it. So far looks like a colossal waste of disk space. 2000 was MS’s best OS to date. I’ll probably wind up all Linux all the time here pretty soon. I use my Suse machines 85% of the time now anyway.[/quote]
Novell Suse Linux? I have it on a couple box’s at home but I’ve not toyed with it much. What NOS do you plan to use?
When I’ve been playing on the Vista machine for a while and switch to one of the other ones it’s like I got out of a luxury car and got into a 72 pinto or something.
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If the flashy interface is something you really enjoy (I’ll admit, I like shit to animate myself), you owe it to yourself to spend some time with Beryl. Albeit it isn’t the most stable software in the world, neither is Vista. The gloss you can put on Linux with Beryl blows Vista way the hell out of the water in terms of sheer coolness/sleekness factor.
[quote]4est wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I’m doing my usual duty as an IT pro and playing around with it. So far looks like a colossal waste of disk space. 2000 was MS’s best OS to date. I’ll probably wind up all Linux all the time here pretty soon. I use my Suse machines 85% of the time now anyway.
Novell Suse Linux? I have it on a couple box’s at home but I’ve not toyed with it much. What NOS do you plan to use?[/quote]
I’ve just been using a workgroup outfit for years. I have experience with Novell and Windows domains and have been meaning to set up a home domain forever, but never got around to it.
When I’ve been playing on the Vista machine for a while and switch to one of the other ones it’s like I got out of a luxury car and got into a 72 pinto or something.
If the flashy interface is something you really enjoy (I’ll admit, I like shit to animate myself), you owe it to yourself to spend some time with Beryl. Albeit it isn’t the most stable software in the world, neitheris Vista. The gloss you can put on Linux with Beryl blows Vista way the hell out of the water in terms of sheer coolness/sleekness factor. [/quote]
I don’t care at all about the flashy interface actually to be honest. I was just commenting that Vista is so purty and shiny. It doesn’t do anything any better that I care about than 2000 did and is a pain in the ass with the rearranged menus and paths to the stuff I do all the time.
The first thing I did with XP was kill all the frivolous eye candy which you can do with Vista too, but I was trying to use it how most of the public will.
My Linux boxes are just plain KDE as well.
On a positive note I put it on a machine built on a 7 year old Abit KR7a-Raid using the raid controller (2 matching 40’s). ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Old 24 bit SB, 10 year old Intel E100b nic, and a bunch of newer standard stuff. In stalled a bunch of off the wall shit too and every single thing works fine except Freedom Force wouldn’t run. Albeit with 2 gigs of pc2100.
BTW, that motherboard was overclocked with voltage mods in a homemade water cooled machine for a year and a half and has been running overclocked practically 24/7 since I got it in 2000. Most bulletproof board I ever. had.
[quote]ragingbassist wrote:
get a mac book. once you go mac, you never go back…ghey statement but nonetheless true.[/quote]
To your comment thats not entirely true. If want to game, im using XP.
If I want to do anything else, im on Linux.
The MacOS is nice, but im a terminal man. And I would much rather be using Linux for terminal work.
Macs have always had great hardware, then again so have most PC enthusiasts.
Lets not even get into how Leopard looks remarkably like Vista.
Eventually linux will rule the world( it allready runs the interweb mainly ), its picking up fan base, and eventually will be able to do anything a Mac or a Microsoft PC can.
DirectX 10 wil probably be cracked to run on XP, so no need to buy Vista for that.
Personally I use TinyXP, which is like XP except all the useless crap (that XP doesn’t need, and you won’t even see it’s gone) is removed. It only uses 50MB Ram to run.
