If you don’t like it, then don’t do it, no big deal. just don’t try to analyze and demean people who do by insinuating we have inferiority complexes. That would just make you an asshole.
[quote]matsm21 wrote:
If you don’t like it, then don’t do it, no big deal. just don’t try to analyze and demean people who do by insinuating we have inferiority complexes. That would just make you an asshole.[/quote]
Read my post again.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
Allright. First where am I now. I’m down to 95kg starting to have some definition,managing on little nutrition (hypothyroid condition too). Strength is OK I guess.
Much earlier I used to do some elementary contortion stuff. I never had unusual talent for it,just a tiny bit above the average guy. I kept retaining a bit when I started lifts and eventually gave in. I recently started doing it again for some reason.
It is time consuming so it’s really hard to find motivation and energy for lifting. I’d say it’s much harder,far more painful (yet more natural) than lifting.
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Lifting is at least as “natural” as stretching. Lifting uses the human body to move an object against gravity, which seems like a self-evidently natural thing to do.
Neither here nor there – any muscle can be too loose or too tight; logically there can be no valid universal prescription that muscles always need to be loosened.
I don’t really like brushing my teeth. But I like the results of not getting more cavities and pain in my mouth; and not having my breath stink.
There might be some element of truth to this for some people who lift, but this seems more likely to incite dung-flinging rather than rational discussion.
I do not wonder how many of anybody have inferiority complexes. I have gotten so sick and tired of hearing and reading blandishments about inferiority complexes and insecurities that all curiosity I might once have had about people’s inferiority complexes and insecurities has been utterly annihilated. Weep for me.
Actually, some of those who look down on one particular type of lifting are so vocal and so pushy that they post their disdain on a website that claims to be oriented to that particular type of lifting.
Seems like a sweeping generalization about other people’s motivations for what they do.
In a few cases, yes; but generally no. Also, this appears to be subtly flinging crap at people who work hard to be large.
The immediately preceding sentence is utterly illogical. “Higher level lifting” and other sports both involve “getting into a risky position” in one way or another, and neither is “all about” getting into a risky position. In both cases, the risks are taken as the cost of accomplishing something; in neither case is the risk taken for its own sake. In both cases, the injuries are accidents.
See #3 and #4 below regarding “abnormally” high body weight.
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… high body weight. [/quote]
Suggestions:
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Consider quitting “serious” lifting, but stay open to the option of using weight training as needed to maintain balance among muscle groups, or to maintain whatever levels of strength you find satisfactory.
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Do not refer to the above as “bodybuilding”; nor even as “strength training”.
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Avoid needless pejoratives when referencing bodybuilding and its results, especially when posting on a bodybuilding web site. e.g. “abnormally” high body weight.
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Be aware that “normal” has more than one meaning; and “average” is a crap modern definition of “normal”. The classic definition of “normal” is conforming to what is right and proper. The reason why the modern definition of “normal” as “average” is crap is because it implicitly conflates averageness with rightness, especially when “ab” is used as the prefix for “not”.
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Avoid flinging crap generalizations about other people’s motivations for their pursuits to justify your decision to focus your efforts elsewhere.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
matsm21 wrote:
If you don’t like it, then don’t do it, no big deal. just don’t try to analyze and demean people who do by insinuating we have inferiority complexes. That would just make you an asshole.
Read my post again.[/quote]
askin somebody here to read is asking alot
Find something else that arouses and maintains your interest and stick with it as long as it stimulates you. No big deal…
I recommend pot.
I lift because I want to be healthier and as a result will look better…and not die of a heart attack at 29. The stigmas attached to fat guys doesnt help either. Girls dont appreciate the man boobs ect…
People say I already have an air of superiority so why would I need lifting for that? When a Teachers and strangers start saying it, you think it may be true!
[quote]Jetric9 wrote:
Grilled stuff burrito steak 4TW!; 690 calories[/quote]
Those are the shit, but my biggest problem with Taco Bell burritos is that the sour cream, guacamole, and other goodies always wind up at only one end of the burrito, and not spread across the burrito like it should be.
So depending on where you bite into the burrito you might end up with a mouthfull of just tortilla, sour cream, guac, and salsa.
I hate that shit.
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
mmm… Taco Bell
Yo quiero…
True story. I say, without hesitation or exaggeration, that eating taco bell after every session has been responsible for at least 50% of my gains in the past year. This closely follows the Louie Simmons model of nutrition “Cholesterol converts in the body to testosterone”.
Can you believe how much meat and deliciousness they give you for 89 cents with that 1/2lb cheesy double beef burrito!?![/quote]
threewhitelights!!!
i have yet to find anyone else that shares the same passion as i about the cheesy double beef burrito.
Three cheesy double beefs. that’s all. thanks.
it just rolls off the tongue… it must be meant to be.
Don;t sweat it, homes. Some chick here will start the “celebration of the man boobs” thread soon!
[quote]Petermus wrote:
Girls dont appreciate the man boobs ect…
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[quote]Alffi wrote
I don’t really find myself liking lifting,I just like the results,if any. I think people are intimidated into lifting because of the media images and also the attitudes of the fellow lifting community once they get there.
But ultimately the lifting pride comes down to manhandling other people
So in a sense being skinny is the hard or brave thing,not being large.
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Get out. Don’t come back. I will most certainly not miss you. Not only are you mentally weak, as it appears you were peer pressured into doing something you don’t enjoy, but now you’re trying to belittle weightlifting to further your own ends? GTFO.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Jetric9 wrote:
Grilled stuff burrito steak 4TW!; 690 calories
Those are the shit, but my biggest problem with Taco Bell burritos is that the sour cream, guacamole, and other goodies always wind up at only one end of the burrito, and not spread across the burrito like it should be.
So depending on where you bite into the burrito you might end up with a mouthfull of just tortilla, sour cream, guac, and salsa.
I hate that shit.[/quote]
Why not tell them to spread out the ingredients equally when you order? I had a friend working there so we we would always get some badass custom burritos. Now those were the shit.
dude one time my burrito had ants in it…true stroy
what other fast food establishment gives you extra protein at no charge?!?
[quote]Poetikaal wrote:
dude one time my burrito had ants in it…true stroy
what other fast food establishment gives you extra protein at no charge?!?
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Depends how rude you are to the person serving you.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
schaffer29 wrote:
OP, if you really don’t like lifting, then just stop. Your loss.
I don’t get why you started this thread though. Are you actually looking for motivation? For someone to convince you to continue? Or are you just whining about why you don’t like lifting anymore?
Oh, he posted because he thought that by making an issue of him not lifting, he could expose “philosophically” how the rest of us are just wasting our time.
That way, when he quits, he can claim it was due to some need to fulfill his destiny without the confines of such a vane construct as making it to the gym several times a week and eating to make progress.
What people like that fail to realize that quite a few of us don’t lessen our other passions, we work on them all because they are all important.
Of course, someone like that will rebel at the thought.[/quote]
Mmm these sour grapes are delicious
[quote]imhungry wrote:
Its All U wrote:
duffyj2 wrote:
Hell of a New Year’s Resolution.
“I intend to be slower, fatter and lazier then I was last year”.
Yes, but more flexible. Perhaps self fellatio is his real unspoken goal.
I know it’s mine.
I can’t wait.[/quote]
now we know what you are hungry for.
I lift because I am fond of the idea of constantly building, progressing, growing, and “leveling up.” It’s one of those things that if you do quit and look back on it in the future, you’ll wish you didn’t. I want to be stronger than most people, which is an easily achievable goal.
Secondly, because I love the adrenaline rush. Although, you could probably get adrenaline from other things… like drugs.
If you don’t like doing something, then quit. Although some people don’t like living much, but they still stick it through.
Let me tell you about how I’ve been doing. I never train public because it would be too inconvenient,I have my own humble home gym. A few barbells,bench and a lat cable.
Being winter,it is frozen all the time so it’s pretty tough hanging. Also I don’t have any squat rack. I’ve been squatting a fallen pine tree in the woods (which I first have to clean and jerk to get under) for that. Just getting to it through the snow is exhausting. As I said in my opening post,I’ve also had thyroid issues which deplete my energy.
That said,I was hung-over and depressed when I wrote my opening post.
[quote]Corrosion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Corrosion wrote:
Polish Rifle wrote:
Corrosion wrote:
If you guys don’t care about what he has to say, why bother to post in the thread? No one forced you to read it.
To the OP: If you don’t enjoy lifting weights, don’t do it. Find another healthy activity that you take interest it.
He posted his thoughts for us to read and reply to if we wish.
Seems you decided to do the same.
Pot = Kettle.
No. I wasn’t saying “who cares?” and telling the OP that his pointless was stupid because it wasn’t a topic I was interested in (yet still felt the need to respond to).
Well, we don’t care about that either.
I’m not sure if that was a joke or not, if it was, it was pretty funny.
But if you truly don’t care, why do you feel the need to tell everyone?
It’s just stupid for someone to tell someone that their post is meaningless in an OFF-TOPIC FOURM.
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Welcome to the world of Prof X.
I “almost” quit lifting 6 months ago.
At one point not only I stopped improving but I also lost some strenght on my favorite lifts.
I’m 100% sure I ate enough food including proteins shakes + I had all the sleep and rest I needed.
I admit I was not training properly since I went mostly for “mirror muscles”
Anyways I decided to stay on this forum because I like the people,and I love. the “get a life” forum.
I still train every now and then at home but not as consistently as before.
[quote]Horazio wrote:
I “almost” quit lifting 6 months ago.
At one point not only I stopped improving but I also lost some strenght on my favorite lifts.
I’m 100% sure I ate enough food including proteins shakes + I had all the sleep and rest I needed.
I admit I was not training properly since I went mostly for “mirror muscles”
Anyways I decided to stay on this forum because I like the people,and I love. the “get a life” forum.
I still train every now and then at home but not as consistently as before.
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If you were eating enough food, you would have been gaining weight.
Why are people this unmotivated attracted to this website?
TC, don’t you think that’s something to consider and possibly do something about?