Thor Trailer Released

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

No you stooge you have literally made no sense in your posts and you are arguing about something you clearly know nothing about. Yes it’s a comic and what the movie should not stick to the source? It should especially in this case where the characters are clearly defined.[/quote]

I made no sense? Why do you think Spawn was mentioned? How many times have black characters turned white in movies? Why is this so shocking when done in reverse?

While I may prefer most media stay true to the original concept, I for one wouldn’t be throwing a hissy fit about it like this unless it was a MAIN CHARACTER and the change destroyed the entire concept of that character. Otherwise, what the fuck is wrong with you and others? It’s a movie.[/quote]

Reading some of these others posts, I sympathise with why you took issue with my original post. =/

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Damn…what happened to this thread?? LOL.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Damn…what happened to this thread?? LOL. [/quote]

They made a white man black…and all hell broke loose.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Damn…what happened to this thread?? LOL. [/quote]

They made a white man black…and all hell broke loose.[/quote]

Well…I only imagine how they will feel when Elba is next James Bond…haha.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Damn…what happened to this thread?? LOL. [/quote]

They made a white man black…and all hell broke loose.[/quote]

Well…I only imagine how they will feel when Elba is next James Bond…haha. [/quote]

The world will have to end. Clearly, any time they make a white man black, boycotts pop up, Norwegians get all up in arms and a black angel gets her wings and an honorary Amber Alert for all of the little minority girls that went missing but never made it to prime time.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

No you stooge you have literally made no sense in your posts and you are arguing about something you clearly know nothing about. Yes it’s a comic and what the movie should not stick to the source? It should especially in this case where the characters are clearly defined.[/quote]

I made no sense? Why do you think Spawn was mentioned? How many times have black characters turned white in movies? Why is this so shocking when done in reverse?

While I may prefer most media stay true to the original concept, I for one wouldn’t be throwing a hissy fit about it like this unless it was a MAIN CHARACTER and the change destroyed the entire concept of that character. Otherwise, what the fuck is wrong with you and others? It’s a movie.[/quote]
Uhhh I don’t like it in any case. I hated it in The Last Airbender too, I mean the water tribe was fucking white and it was annoying.

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Was there this much stink when they made Nick Fury black?

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
Was there this much stink when they made Nick Fury black?[/quote]
No because he is in the avengers universe.

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[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
Was there this much stink when they made Nick Fury black?[/quote]
No because he is in the avengers universe.[/quote]

So, the rules are different when it comes to Norse Gods?

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Wow, all this from a clip. A CLIP, and people are freaking out cursing as if they made a musical about Jesus Christ an made his apostles multi culture an judas black…oh wait they did that 30 years ago.

Comic adapted movies change stuff up all the time. Who know how much power these gods have, maybe in this movie Odin is the god of all humans? Maybe in this movie Asgard is a whole dif dimension of people. How about before people lose sanity over this we wait to see the actual movie. Wow

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
Was there this much stink when they made Nick Fury black?[/quote]
No because he is in the avengers universe.[/quote]

So, the rules are different when it comes to Norse Gods?[/quote]
Yes

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
You would think blacks were completely silent or invisible throughout history before making peanut butter listening to some of you.[/quote]

Out of this whole thread, for some stupid reason, this made me laugh the hardest. A George Washington Carver reference in the middle of a thread about Thor.

Classic.

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[quote]four60 wrote:
Wow, all this from a clip. A CLIP, and people are freaking out cursing as if they made a musical about Jesus Christ an made his apostles multi culture an judas black…oh wait they did that 30 years ago.

Comic adapted movies change stuff up all the time. Who know how much power these gods have, maybe in this movie Odin is the god of all humans? Maybe in this movie Asgard is a whole dif dimension of people. How about before people lose sanity over this we wait to see the actual movie. Wow [/quote]

I don’t think anyone other than one guy has “freaked out”, and he’s doing it on the “pro black” platform. There’s been people that have expressed their annoyance at the casting choice, but no one has really raised a stink. There’s even been people from that region of the world that have set the record straight and there’s still some clown that’s arguing tooth and nail and making subtle jabs about the white posters on this site.

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Being a raging comic nerd, I would rather see the characters played as closely to the source material . . . which, in this instance, is actually several paces removed from the inspirational religious characters.

In the standard Marvel Universe, Ragnarok has happened at least one time previously. ALL the Asgardian characters died, and were recreated. Thor, the first (or a previous iteration) had red hair and a big-ass red beard. In comic, he was blonde and clean-shaven, usually.

So, considering the movies are mixing the original monthly Universe stories with the “Ultimate” stories, I don’t have a problem with a race change for one of the gods . . .

Are they still gods? I was actually very fond of the multiple religions with multiple creation stories being true at the same time in the Marvel U.

Depending on how the “techno-sorcery” thing plays out, I’ll either be very happy or very sad.

But I’ll still pay out the ass to see this movie twice.

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[quote]Vash wrote:
Being a raging comic nerd, I would rather see the characters played as closely to the source material . . . which, in this instance, is actually several paces removed from the inspirational religious characters.

In the standard Marvel Universe, Ragnarok has happened at least one time previously. ALL the Asgardian characters died, and were recreated. Thor, the first (or a previous iteration) had red hair and a big-ass red beard. In comic, he was blonde and clean-shaven, usually.

So, considering the movies are mixing the original monthly Universe stories with the “Ultimate” stories, I don’t have a problem with a race change for one of the gods . . .

Are they still gods? I was actually very fond of the multiple religions with multiple creation stories being true at the same time in the Marvel U.

Depending on how the “techno-sorcery” thing plays out, I’ll either be very happy or very sad.

But I’ll still pay out the ass to see this movie twice.[/quote]

I don’t think many understand the changes made in the “Ultimate Universe”…where Nick Fury is black and Thor comes across as more of a champion for Green Earth and other motives meant to protect the planet’s resources. I actually feel the “ultimate” version is more real…but that may be the source of confusion seeing as many of the people complaining doubtfully even read these comics and are basing their opinion on “traditional” knowledge of the characters.

Some seemed surprised at the fact that captain America was frozen in ice for over 40 years.

The thing they NEED to accomplish with this movie in order to make the rest of that “universe” work is the link between magic and technology. Without making that connection more real for the audience, we will never see a Dr. Strange movie or any other character that is based in magic but works along side tech wizards like Stark.

They made people fall in love with the tech angle with the first Iron Man. I don’t know if the general public is ready for magic.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

No you stooge you have literally made no sense in your posts and you are arguing about something you clearly know nothing about. Yes it’s a comic and what the movie should not stick to the source? It should especially in this case where the characters are clearly defined.[/quote]

I made no sense? Why do you think Spawn was mentioned? How many times have black characters turned white in movies? Why is this so shocking when done in reverse?

While I may prefer most media stay true to the original concept, I for one wouldn’t be throwing a hissy fit about it like this unless it was a MAIN CHARACTER and the change destroyed the entire concept of that character. Otherwise, what the fuck is wrong with you and others? It’s a movie.[/quote]

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Since when did Hollywood stay 100% true to a story, no less from a comic book?

Sure, it annoyed me that they weren’t totally accurate to the X-Men characters and butchered the third movie… But, it’s a MOVIE that comes from a COMIC book.

I just want movies like this to succeed, so that other movies like this can be made and made well.

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I’m still seeing this movie, I don’t really care that much, but I do like to see things stay close to the source. Another odd thing is it looks like the black dude is fighting Thor which doesn’t seem right as they are always friendly, I really hope it’s something Loki did or that’ll be another annoyance.

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Also, Hollywood’s worst fuckup with race changes is still the Last Airbender. They made an all asian/eskimo story into a strange mish mash of white people and native Indians that completely screwed the work of art that was the original concept. In that one, they changed THE MAIN CHARACTERS and not just surrounding cast.

Other than that, they have been throwing white people into roles written for other races for over a century now from doing black face to using a white guy (David Carradine) to play an Asian character in the tv show Kung Fu.

I NEVER heard anyone raise hell about it or protest or boycott about it.

It seems some people just can’t handle it when all of that bullshit boomerangs.

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[quote]sardines12 wrote:
I’m still seeing this movie, I don’t really care that much, but I do like to see things stay close to the source. Another odd thing is it looks like the black dude is fighting Thor which doesn’t seem right as they are always friendly, I really hope it’s something Loki did or that’ll be another annoyance. [/quote]

Him an Thor has thrown down before. Sometimes being tricked by Loki and in one case he was ordered not to leave Asgard and Odin had him stop Thor. But I get the feeling they will end up on the same side.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:
I’m still seeing this movie, I don’t really care that much, but I do like to see things stay close to the source. Another odd thing is it looks like the black dude is fighting Thor which doesn’t seem right as they are always friendly, I really hope it’s something Loki did or that’ll be another annoyance. [/quote]

Him an Thor has thrown down before. Sometimes being tricked by Loki and in one case he was ordered not to leave Asgard and Odin had him stop Thor. But I get the feeling they will end up on the same side.[/quote]

On the new animated Avengers tv show, they had the Enchantress (I think that is who she was) pretend to be him so that he could trick Thor. Either way, while they are friends, obviously the source of most of the conflict in Asgard seems to come from some scheme to trick someone else.