[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
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And thus starts another T-Nation bromance!
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Bi-Sexual Gender Fluid
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Say what?
Edit: What does that mean?[/quote]
It’s what they’re putting in the water to make guys look like Todd.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
The list of sub ten performers is littered with African born athletes who are presumably not decendants of slavery. That is pretty clear and irrefutable proof you are all a bunch of racist mofos. Except for Killer Dirk who is just irrefruitable.
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FTR, Africans (black and Arab) were enslaving other Africans centuries before the first white slave trader ever docked at an African port.[/quote]
Yes indeed, an overlooked fact. And slavery still exists in the Africa and the Arab worlds.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
FTR, Africans (black and Arab) were enslaving other Africans centuries before the first white slave trader ever docked at an African port.[/quote]
Yes indeed, an overlooked fact. And slavery still exists in the Africa and the Arab worlds. [/quote]
As well as America and Britain.
Regarding the whole selective bias of slaves thing. If you go the Caribbean (which I haven’t), apparently folks from Jamaica tend to be a lot bolder and aggressive, while those from Barbados tend to be a lot more passive and mellow (this coming from people from these places’ observations, not my own, so it could be complete BS). The theory on this was that the slave ships stopped at Barbados first, dropping off the more sickly slaves prior to moving on to Jamaica with the healthier slaves. Both were British colonies, so that wouldn’t explain it, and I doubt the local tribes had much influence. Now, Jamaica doesn’t look further on a map from Britain than Barbados, but who knows.
As SV mentioned regarding climate, it def. effects things. Heck, in the Smithsonian, there’s an exhibit on why people from colder climates tend to be taller because it takes longer to digest food and they need longer digestive tracts or something (I obviously didn’t pay that much attention). Now, this would explain Filipinos and Thai folks, but I don’t think the NBA is mostly black because of the white blood mixed in; though culture plays a huge factor, they’re still genetic freaks.
However, to follow up on the perception of blacks as “superior” beings… Just yesterday they were talking on the radio about a study of white americans on their perceptions of blacks. I can’t remember the exact methodology, but I think they flashed a series of images, parks, dogs, etc, and some contained black people and some white. They then asked questions. What they found was that the participants associated more “superhuman” words to those images w/ the black people than white. Frankly, I don’t think it’s surprising… I think we derive most of our conception of superhuman feats from professional sports… specifically football, basketball… baseball and hockey tend to be kind of second tier.
Now, positive and negative things could result from this. Of the negatives, they associated black people as having a higher tolerance for pain. In the real world, black folks tend to be under prescribed for pain medication compared to their white counterparts, so that could be part of the explanation. However, most doctors tend to be rich white men. Another study I came across somewhere some time last year, found that the number of tests and level of care increased substantially when you were perceived as educated and wealthy (they sent people in to offices dressing/acting certain ways), so rich white male doctors are probably more likely to give people better care that they can relate to more… as would probably be the case for hispanic female doctors serving hispanic females, but there just aren’t as many.
Fuck, I gotta get to work.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]batman730 wrote:
[quote]pja wrote:
Netherlands also has a higher average education level as a country and by many different measures a much better health care system…but hey we have guns…
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IMO it has more to do with other cultural factors (i.e. moderate food intake, frequent physical activity and a lack of interest in soda). The Dutch don’t do these things because of a higher level of education, national health care etc. Socially, overeating is considered rude, cycling is fun and black coffee is enjoyed more than soda.
Furthermore, in my experience, Dutch people tend to be very blunt and I expect they could be brutal fat-shamers. Also, if the “average” person looks like Dutch Todd, I expect there might be a tacit pressure to hold yourself to a higher standard.[/quote]
I’ve been there and my conjecture is it has everything to do with the massive amount of cycling. Everyone rides a bike, it seems, from young to the elderly. It’s a stark contrast between here and there on that alone.
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That’s certainly part of it. I am Dutch, born and raised till I left for the States at age 26. When you are young, you walk to school and you come home for lunch. That’s 60-90 minutes of walking a day. Add to that PE, which is an hour everyday and playing soccer after school till mom tells you to come in for dinner and you’ll have a lot of skinny kids.
During my high school years I rode a bike to school, also about 60 minutes a day, through rain, snow or soul crushing wind. Almost everyone I know was at one time involved in some kind of sport that was played either outdoors or indoors.
The Dutch didn’t, in those days, have 200 tv channels to choose from either.
However, I do find this study a bit misleading. The Dutch are getting fatter and more out of shape each year. Overcrowding and increased rate of criminality have ensured that parents are now also dropping their kids of at school by car, eliminating that hour of walking/biking. And since it is easier to keep an eye on your kid when they are playing Minecraft in their room I see the same development there as I do here.
And, of course, they now have 100 tv channels to chose from as well.
Give it another decade and than let’s compare average body’s again.
I guess this is as good a place as any to talk about this as any…
I just spent the last hour and a half helping my neighbor. To be fair, he has some health issues. To be critical, I’m sure some of those issues are because he’s huge: maybe 6’4"/6’5" and pushing a soft 400 lbs at 40. As someone that was a soft 340 at one point, I can empathize.
He recently began using a walker. Well, he walked about 3 blocks with said walker and ended up falling in the bushes right out front. His wife ain’t getting him up, so she came running to me. We got him up and walked him a few feet to the stairs, where we then had to assist him in crawling up because he couldn’t stand or hang from me. We only live on the 2nd floor, but we had to stop so he could rest several times.
By the time he got to the top, he couldn’t stop panting. After several times of sitting him up, he’d have to lay back down to catch his breath: he couldn’t sit up on his own or do a pushup to assist. After 20 min. or so, while still panting, he began mumbling incoherently. I rolled him on his side and told his wife to call an ambulance. Apparently, this isn’t the first time something like this has happened.
Four guys showed up and after maybe a half hour, helped him sit up and tried to get him on a stair chair, which they were unable to do. They ended up carrying him out on some sort of tarp.
We were thinking it might just be dehydration, but his blood pressure was so low that they’re keeping him. I hope things are alright and that he’s able to change things and improve his life for him and his family… but it’s such an uphill battle, especially when you can’t even walk, that I’m not optimistic.
[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
I guess this is as good a place as any to talk about this as any…
I just spent the last hour and a half helping my neighbor. To be fair, he has some health issues. To be critical, I’m sure some of those issues are because he’s huge: maybe 6’4"/6’5" and pushing a soft 400 lbs at 40. As someone that was a soft 340 at one point, I can empathize.
He recently began using a walker. Well, he walked about 3 blocks with said walker and ended up falling in the bushes right out front. His wife ain’t getting him up, so she came running to me. We got him up and walked him a few feet to the stairs, where we then had to assist him in crawling up because he couldn’t stand or hang from me. We only live on the 2nd floor, but we had to stop so he could rest several times.
By the time he got to the top, he couldn’t stop panting. After several times of sitting him up, he’d have to lay back down to catch his breath: he couldn’t sit up on his own or do a pushup to assist. After 20 min. or so, while still panting, he began mumbling incoherently. I rolled him on his side and told his wife to call an ambulance. Apparently, this isn’t the first time something like this has happened.
Four guys showed up and after maybe a half hour, helped him sit up and tried to get him on a stair chair, which they were unable to do. They ended up carrying him out on some sort of tarp.
We were thinking it might just be dehydration, but his blood pressure was so low that they’re keeping him. I hope things are alright and that he’s able to change things and improve his life for him and his family… but it’s such an uphill battle, especially when you can’t even walk, that I’m not optimistic.[/quote]
Gross
[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
I guess this is as good a place as any to talk about this as any…
I just spent the last hour and a half helping my neighbor. To be fair, he has some health issues. To be critical, I’m sure some of those issues are because he’s huge: maybe 6’4"/6’5" and pushing a soft 400 lbs at 40. As someone that was a soft 340 at one point, I can empathize.
He recently began using a walker. Well, he walked about 3 blocks with said walker and ended up falling in the bushes right out front.[/quote]
Was he doing no walking at all before? Is this walking a first step to getting exercise of any kind? Good for him, if that’s the case.
[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Yes indeed, an overlooked fact. And slavery still exists in the Africa and the Arab worlds. [/quote]
As well as America [/quote]
Well, the US and Canada are slave free, I’m pretty sure Mexico is too…
Which country/s are you referring to in America where “slavery still exists”?
There is still slavery but not in the historical context of which you are thinking of. There are sex slaves, sweat shops, and migrant workers which I would say nears slavery because they get paid below market value and have little to no rights in North America.
I don’t know what we are discussing really, I find the poor kids in my old neighbourhood were in great shape and were running around doing hoodrat things. The fat kids were the ones that were fed shit food and usually their parents were to blame. I was talking to a young kid in grade six or seven a few years back telling him he could play any position in a sport if he wanted too but his parents had warped his mentality that his family was fat and couldn’t play sports.
He was playing outdoor hockey and had good potential it’s really unnerving how some parents royally mess the psyche of kids into lowering their standards and accepting crap. I felt kind of the need to talk him out of that train of thought but really it’s not my place to parent someone else’s kid. I think that education and promoting physical activity to your kids is the way to go.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
There is still slavery but not in the historical context of which you are thinking of. There are sex slaves, sweat shops, and migrant workers which I would say nears slavery because they get paid below market value and have little to no rights in North America.[/quote]
Sex slaves? I’ll give you that.
Otherwise, you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. If someone is getting paid and ELECTS to work there, irrelevant of the wage, the can’t, by definition be a slave.
Jesus Christ. Every teacher you’ve ever had should be fired. Put down the leftist propaganda and read something written by someone who thinks rather than feels their way through life.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
There is still slavery but not in the historical context of which you are thinking of. There are sex slaves, sweat shops, and migrant workers which I would say nears slavery because they get paid below market value and have little to no rights in North America.[/quote]
Migrant workers come here through their own volition. Correct me if I don’t have it right, but there is no government sanctioned programs in which they are forced to emigrate here and work, unlike the current slave trade in which women are fooled, forced, and owned.
I am also not sure about their lack of rights considering many have taken advantage of our welfare and healthcare systems, all at the expense of those living and working here. That is, if you are talking about illegal citizens. If they are legal citizens, then how do they have few rights here?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
There is still slavery but not in the historical context of which you are thinking of. There are sex slaves, sweat shops, and migrant workers which I would say nears slavery because they get paid below market value and have little to no rights in North America.[/quote]
Sex slaves? I’ll give you that.
Otherwise, you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. If someone is getting paid and ELECTS to work there, irrelevant of the wage, the can’t, by definition be a slave.
Jesus Christ. Every teacher you’ve ever had should be fired. Put down the leftist propaganda and read something written by someone who thinks rather than feels their way through life. [/quote]
Right!
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
There is still slavery but not in the historical context of which you are thinking of. There are sex slaves, sweat shops, and migrant workers which I would say nears slavery because they get paid below market value and have little to no rights in North America.[/quote]
Could it be that the migrant workers are actually getting paid market value but their are shit-tons of people getting paid over market value because of an inflated minimum wage?? Betcha didn’t think about that.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Was he doing no walking at all before? Is this walking a first step to getting exercise of any kind? Good for him, if that’s the case.[/quote]
They don’t have a car, so I’m assuming plenty of walking… though, he was on disability.
He was coming from the doc for blood clot.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
There is still slavery but not in the historical context of which you are thinking of. There are sex slaves, sweat shops, and migrant workers which I would say nears slavery because they get paid below market value and have little to no rights in North America.[/quote]
Could it be that the migrant workers are actually getting paid market value but their are shit-tons of people getting paid over market value because of an inflated minimum wage?? Betcha didn’t think about that. [/quote]
What’s an inflated minimum wage, $13 an hour?
Would $7.25 to $9.00 an hour be better, a wage that one can’t remain alive on without government assistance or food and housing provided by someone else?
I saw my wife’s nephew at Thanksgiving. This kid (age 33…) gets bigger and bigger every time I see him. His parents always coddled him and he was always a soft fat kid. He’s some sort of vegetarian, his 2 food groups are dairy and carbs. So far his health is okay. I’m surprised his parents don’t try to influence him to take better care of himself, as they are health nuts who equate being skinny with being in good health.
I got a neighbor down the block, younger than me by a few years. This guy is tall and is about 375 lbs. He has a spotty employment record, which is partly due to his appearance, plus he smokes cigarettes and cigars… he basically stinks. His wife is a saint, she does everything around the house. When it snows, she’s out shoveling while he watches TV inside. I tried to get him to join a gym, he says yeah, yeah and that’s it.
Both these people have all the tools around them to eat better and get in a better state of health, yet they ignore it. How many people over the age of 60 to 70 do you see that are morbidly obese… none really.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
What’s an inflated minimum wage, $13 an hour? [/quote]
Minimum wage, due to it’s very nature, is an inflated wage.
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Would $7.25 to $9.00 an hour be better, a wage that one can’t remain alive on without government assistance or food and housing provided by someone else? [/quote]
You can’t live government assistance free at $7.25/hr and you probably can’t at $13 either.