Thib's Q&A

[quote]ThetfordMiner wrote:
Coach,

If you had to choose between the following 2 peri-workout strategies, which would be a better one, in your opinion:

1)Consuming only BCAA’s during a workout and saving all carbs for “meals” immediately post and 60-90 minutes post-workout?

or

2)Calculating one’s optimal amount of post-workout carbs and protein and splitting them into a pre/peri shake and a post-workout shake and then resuming with a solid meal 60-90 minutes post-workout that falls in line with one’s current nutritional philosophy?[/quote]

Option 1

Hey CT,
I took a look at your beast building program sometime ago. I am wondering if said program would be a good fit for me at this time. I just got back into training. I realized that i did not take care of myself while partying and staying up to 3 in the morning doing papers while in college. Currently, I weigh 250 pounds at a 5’8 frame. I played football most of my life and a knee injury put an end to my football career. Would the beast building program be the best fit, at the moment?

[quote]romanemperor wrote:
Hey CT,
I took a look at your beast building program sometime ago. I am wondering if said program would be a good fit for me at this time. I just got back into training. I realized that i did not take care of myself while partying and staying up to 3 in the morning doing papers while in college. Currently, I weigh 250 pounds at a 5’8 frame. I played football most of my life and a knee injury put an end to my football career. Would the beast building program be the best fit, at the moment?[/quote]

Not even close.

[quote]juanjromero wrote:
CT, I am determining my body future, I have a concern because I am asking questions that seem to bother other members.

My profile contains real info and pics.

I am now in the midle of an strength routing (squat/dl) but I am preparing my routines for the after that.

My question is this:

Should I work my body just to put mass on it with disregard of working every muscle on every angle, shaping it as I go.

Or should i plan my routines to shape but aiming to putting mass on a kind of directed way, puttin effort on each part?

this is kind of working top to bottom or bottom to top.

Should I work the whole and later adjust the parts or should I work the parts making it bigger to get the whole.

so far, the part by part approach has given me nice results.

[/quote]

would you mind giving me advice on this one?

I’m in the 7th week of your Beast Building program. I thank you for the program; it is helping me reach some new strength goals.

My question:
I started the program at 5’8 185 pounds (fairly lean with some ab definition), and with a 385lb 1 rep max on the deadlift. I believe I am making progress (405 partial deadlift from the knees and 365 pounds really easily 2 days ago), but do you believe I can reach 425 pound deadlift after I complete the remaining 5 weeks of the program, and what should I do to aid my progress towards this goal?

[quote]juanjromero wrote:
would you mind giving me advice on this one?
[/quote]

I will NOT answer you. You should have read the message that I posted (twice already) before. Read point no.4

VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE

For professional reasons I will not answer questions regarding:

  1. My opinion of other coaches or specific training systems (DC training, Max-OT, etc.). The reasons are that

a) often people ask those questions to gain ammunitions for online debates on other sites or forums. They end up misquoting me and this puts me in a bad situation.

b) you can’t argue with results. If a system has produced results it means that it works. Now, nothing works forever, so I am not ‘‘pro-systems’’ in that I think that sticking to one precise methodology blindly is a mistake over the long run. I feel that it is much more important to understand the underlying principles that make training effective.

This is my answer to ‘‘is the XWZ system effective?’’: if it’s based on systemic progression, yes it will be effective. But every effective program needs to be changed or cycled to progress over the long run.

c) I think that every successful authority, writer or coach in this field has something to contribute and we can learn from all of them. Some have more to contribute than others and with some you have to weed through more BS to get to the good part. BUT I feel that it is a big mistake on my part to burn any bridges by critiquing a colleague.

  • Note that I DID answer the question about Layne Norton, but only because I felt that saying that ‘‘the body can adapt to anything’’ without giving more details about the rate of adaptation and how to ramp up training demands is opening up the door to injuries.
  1. Anabolic steroids and other drugs: they are illegal and I do not want to be associated with them. I’m a trainer and a coach, not a pharmacist.

  2. Complete program critics: understand that a thorough program analysis actually takes me more time than writing a new program! My schedule is way too busy to critique every program sent my way, and answering only to a few would be unfair to others.

Furthermore, it is a paying service that I offer so it wouldn’t be fair to my paying clients.

  1. Question reposts: I mentionned this a million times already… I DO NOT respond to people who repost their questions. Or tell me to answer them. I feel that this is rude… kinda like saying in a somewhat aggressive voice ‘‘dude, answer me now’’. As I mention I have a limited schedule. I do try to answer as many questions as I can but I sometimes have to make choices. So if I don’t answer you it doesn’t (always) mean that I don’t like you or that you can’t ask other questions. BUT if you repost a question you can be sure that I will be much less tempted to answer you in the future.

  2. Injury questions: I feel that it is irresponsable to answer specific injury questions without being able to assess the individual myself.

I WILL PERIODICALLY REPOST THIS MESSAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FORUM RUNS SMOOTHLY AND THAT EVERYBODY ENDS UP SATISFIED.

Thib, I’d like to know which of this approaches do you like the most:

A) Train and allow to full recovery. You train a certain muscle and don’t train it again until it is fully recovered.

B) Accumulation of fatigue along a few weeks. You train a muscle and, when you train it again, it is almost fully recovered, but still got a little fatigue, so each week you are accumulating more and more fatigue.

C) Overtraining and rest. You kill each muscle and, when you train it again, it has a lot of fatigue. It’s a short cycle (2 weeks or so) of crazy training. When you are “depressed” (overtrained) you stop training for a few days to allow for supercompensation. It would be like the Poliquin super-accumulation program.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
would you mind giving me advice on this one?

I will NOT answer you. You should have read the message that I posted (twice already) before. Read point no.4

[/quote]

Well. thanks.

Thib

you said that carbs are 100% stimulatory to insulin, and fats are 100% inhibitory.

what wwould the effect on insulin be if i consumed the same amount of both in a meal (50g of each for example) or the same amount of calories of each (like say 300 calories of each)?

Hey CT, first up would like to thank you for your valuable contributions to this great online resource; you give a lot when you’re not getting much back - except the appreciation of internet randoms!

I was going to ask a question about tendon strength, but google is a wonderful tool and I’ve already found some avenues to explore. Anyway, once again - I greatly appreciate the knowledge and effort you put into this site.

[quote]forbes wrote:
Thib

you said that carbs are 100% stimulatory to insulin, and fats are 100% inhibitory.

what wwould the effect on insulin be if i consumed the same amount of both in a meal (50g of each for example) or the same amount of calories of each (like say 300 calories of each)?[/quote]

The fats would slow down the digestion and absorption of the carbs, which would decrease the speed at which carbs enter the bloodstream.

However as the carbs enter the bloodstream there would be a release of insulin. However the spike would not be as marked.

[quote]Addweight wrote:
Thib, I’d like to know which of this approaches do you like the most:

A) Train and allow to full recovery. You train a certain muscle and don’t train it again until it is fully recovered.

B) Accumulation of fatigue along a few weeks. You train a muscle and, when you train it again, it is almost fully recovered, but still got a little fatigue, so each week you are accumulating more and more fatigue.

C) Overtraining and rest. You kill each muscle and, when you train it again, it has a lot of fatigue. It’s a short cycle (2 weeks or so) of crazy training. When you are “depressed” (overtrained) you stop training for a few days to allow for supercompensation. It would be like the Poliquin super-accumulation program.[/quote]

Anyone of those strategies can be used and have their own purpose.

Most of the time I prefer to use strategy A with occasional bouts of strategy B which I call a shock week. Normally this is done on the 3rd week of a program and it is done by doubling the frequency of the workouts (for example if each muscle is being trained once a week, I bump it to twice a week) or the volume if frequency is already high. When I do this, the 4th week is a deloading/peaking week where volume is reduced by 50-60% compared to the baseline (not to week 3) but intensity/loading is maintained.

So a block would look like this:

WEEKS 1 and 2: normal loading
WEEK 3: increase volume by 60-100% either via frequency or volume
WEEK 4: decrease volume by 50-60% compared to weeks 1 and 2

I normally use this with athletes at the end of a specific phase, to get a quick peak, or with individuals training for size/strength who have hit a plateau.

NOTE that this is the basic scheme of the Bulgarian olympic lifting team.

I ONLY use strategy C when an individual has a planned vacation where he will not train for 7-10 days. In that case we will do a 1-2 weeks hell period which serves two purposes:

  1. To stimulate a very large surcompensation
  2. To prevent detraining during the vacation

For example, I have two clients in that situation right now and trust me, in two weeks they will hate me!

Coach Thibaudeau,

I just read the first part of your new article and I must say I’m very impressed. I was very pleased with the way you brought a collective approach to the issue of CNS fatigue and training to failure. So often we only here a coach espouse only one side of the issue. Can’t wait to read the other parts of your article. Great Work!

[quote]TrentonJohn01 wrote:
Coach Thibaudeau,

I just read the first part of your new article and I must say I’m very impressed. I was very pleased with the way you brought a collective approach to the issue of CNS fatigue and training to failure. So often we only here a coach espouse only one side of the issue. Can’t wait to read the other parts of your article. Great Work![/quote]

Yes, I love myself too! :wink:

hey Chris, i have just started using maximum duration isometrics for gaining my triceps size, im currently doing 4 sets per 3 positions of standing dumbell tricep extensions 2 days a week Monday and Thursday(this is the only work i do for triceps). I want to know what is supposed to be the frequency of the max duration iso workouts for small muscles and large muscles groups and is my 2 days a week for triceps fine, also i workout at home these days and due to the limited weights i wont be able to increase the weight on dumbells to a considerable extent and i have been lifting since 1 year.

Do you think that i should make some changes like adding a set of full ROM exercise in the end or something like that?

[quote]devil007 wrote:
hey Chris, i have just started using maximum duration isometrics for gaining my triceps size, im currently doing 4 sets per 3 positions of standing dumbell tricep extensions 2 days a week Monday and Thursday(this is the only work i do for triceps). I want to know what is supposed to be the frequency of the max duration iso workouts for small muscles and large muscles groups and is my 2 days a week for triceps fine, also i workout at home these days and due to the limited weights i wont be able to increase the weight on dumbells to a considerable extent and i have been lifting since 1 year. Do you think that i should make some changes like adding a set of full ROM exercise in the end or something like that?

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I would indeed add some dynamic work too. Heck, even in the original isometric system which was used by weightlifters Bill Marsh and Louie Riecke dynamic exercises as included once a week, if only to test the rate of progress.

For maximal results all three main types of contraction should be trained to some extent. You can emphasize one over the others, but you should still include some of all three (isometric, concentric, eccentric).

Here are three combo methods that I really like to build size:

  1. ISOMETRIC - DYNAMIC CONTRAST
    This is NOT a superset, but an alternating set. You alternate between one set of supramaximal isometrics for time and one dynamic/regular set (same exercise). For example, if you know that you will be using 100lbs for your ‘‘regular’’ set, use 120lbs for the isometric set.

For the isometric set you start by holding the peak contraction (so you need an exercise where tension is the greater as the peak contraction point) or near the end of the movement (e.g. for a DB triceps extension/close-grip press you hold the weight just short of lockout). You hold the position for as long as you can. When you can’t hold it anymore, lower the weight down (eccentric) as slowly as possible.

Rest for 2 minutes and then perform a regular set of the same movement.

Go back and forth like this for 3-4 contrasts.

  1. ISOMETRIC - DYNAMIC SUPERSET
    Superset two different exercises for the same muscle group, there is no rest between both exercises.

The first one is the isometric movement (like you’ve been doing), then without rest you move on to the second exercise and perform a regular set.

Perform the superset 3-4 times.

Note that you can add a third exercise (it thus becomes a triple set) which would be an eccentric-only movement. For triceps it could be a negative-only dip in which you raise yourself with your legs and then lower yourself as slowly as humanly possible. You continue to do negative reps until you cannot lower yourself under control.

If you add the 3rd exercise, only 2-3 are to be performed.

  1. OMNI-CONTRACTION SET
    This is a method popularized by Mike Mentzer. The goal is to reach failure in all three phases of the movement (you are likely to need a spotter for this one, so it might not be practical for you).

First you perform a regular exercise to concentric failure. When you can’t complete the movement you perform a max duration isometric as the peak contraction (or close to the lockout). When you can’t hold the weight anymore you lower it as slowly as possible. At this point a spotter will assist you in lifting the weight so that you can continue to perform negative-only reps until you cannot control the lowering portion.

Only isolation work should be used with this technique (read my latest article).

Only 2-3 sets are performed.

Coach,

I’m currently doing hss-100 specialization 3times/wk for quads and looking at your response to a previous post was wondering if in the 3rd week it would be a good idea to increase the volume by 50% and then in the 4th week cut it back or should I just leave it as it is.

Thanks

[quote]kg wrote:
Coach,

I’m currently doing hss-100 specialization 3times/wk for quads and looking at your response to a previous post was wondering if in the 3rd week it would be a good idea to increase the volume by 50% and then in the 4th week cut it back or should I just leave it as it is.

Thanks [/quote]

Are you stuck in a rut? Have you plateaued? If not, don’t do it. It is not necessary (or wise) to do so while doing a spec program, which is already a ‘‘shock’’ in itself.

Thanks I will keep it as is. One more question before I go to work if you don’t mind. I feel I don’t handle carbs well from past experience and from biosig results. My question is when it comes to me increasing energetic nutrients rather than a 50/50 split would I possibly be better off just increasing good fats until I reach goals. Currently I’m at .75g carbs/lb on off days and 1-1.5 on training days with 110g fat and 330g protein everyday.

Thanks again

thanks coach

i want to ask one more thing, what should be the frequency of such workouts, is 2 times a week fine for small muscle groups?