Thib's Q&A

Thibs,two questions if you’d be so kind.

  1. Have you ever had any experience or do you have any knowledge of Gemma Protein Isolate? Is this source worthwhile?

  2. I just ordered TRIBEX and I know that is says to use upon waking and prior to a workout. I believe I read this from your Q&A but please feel free to correct me if not. You recommend taking it later in the evening to keep testosterone levels stable throughout the day? If this is true, what are the optimal times for taking this supplement?

Thanks in advance.

Hey Chris,

I don’t often post, but I’m a big fan of your work.
I’m 17, 6’0, 175 lb’s. Been working out for 'bout 2 years.
My goals are size and strength.

Currently I’m doing a few hours of boxing a day, so I am just hitting the gym three times a week. But starting september I will be completely free to spend my time (when I’m not in school) working out, eating and sleeping.
I have a high work threshold from so much boxing and doing workouts such as CrossFit in the past.

I designed a short program based on a lot of the principles in your past articles, could you take a look at it please?

http://saiyantraining.blogspot.com/

Thanks a lot Chris,

Alex

[quote]PhDguy wrote:
Coach Thib

I have gone with an old Arnold workout plan. Does this look okay? I’ve tried the 5 day rotation and have completely failed at it. Perhaps because my schedule is intense and I just cant seem to effectively stick with the 5 day rotation.

I found myself missing too much. Currently, I try to hit each muscle group twice a week but do a lighter less strenuous workout on the second time in the week.

Day 1: Pushing muscles (chest/shoulders/triceps)–Heavy / Intense (puke city)
Day 2: Pulling muscles (back/biceps/forearms/legs)–Heavy / Intense (puke city)
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Pushing muscles (chest/shoulders/triceps)–Moderate / light (high reps)
Day 5: Pulling muscles (back/biceps/forearms/ legs)–Moderate / light (high reps)
Day 6: Off
Day 7: Off

Thoughts?

PH [/quote]

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz…

Thats ok my question doesnt exist.

lol…

Later

PH

Hi CT-

I can’t remember if I thanked you for your last answer. I really appreciate it.

Oh, CT, I remember something I was going to ask you. Is splenda (not the packets, but liquid) actually calorie free and can it hinder body comp in too large quantities? What about the acid in diet soda? Does it affect your blood pH? How can I measure the pH?

Also, I just tried Metabolic Drive again for the first time and I really like it. I am used to having pure whey isolate upon waking. Would it be better to use something mixed with casein like Metabolic Drive?

CT

I have been doing classic 5x5 (3 compound exercises per day) i was just wondering which is better for hypertrophy 5x5 vs 5x10 as 5 reps is more in the strength zone rather than size isnt it? I’m confused! please help clear this up for me.

Adam

Christian Thibaudeau:

Hi, I have an embarassing question in which I hope you can help me with. I know you work with a lot of people in many different sports, but have you ever had a client who had an uneven nipple line?

I wasn’t born with one but somehow after I lost weight, my nipple line went uneven.

Would any kind of unilateral incline/decline press or fly help with my situation.

Thank you for your great contributions to this site!

[quote]PhDguy wrote:
PhDguy wrote:
Coach Thib

I have gone with an old Arnold workout plan. Does this look okay? I’ve tried the 5 day rotation and have completely failed at it. Perhaps because my schedule is intense and I just cant seem to effectively stick with the 5 day rotation.

I found myself missing too much. Currently, I try to hit each muscle group twice a week but do a lighter less strenuous workout on the second time in the week.

Day 1: Pushing muscles (chest/shoulders/triceps)–Heavy / Intense (puke city)
Day 2: Pulling muscles (back/biceps/forearms/legs)–Heavy / Intense (puke city)
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Pushing muscles (chest/shoulders/triceps)–Moderate / light (high reps)
Day 5: Pulling muscles (back/biceps/forearms/ legs)–Moderate / light (high reps)
Day 6: Off
Day 7: Off

Thoughts?

PH

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz…

Thats ok my question doesnt exist.

lol…

Later

PH[/quote]

I already posted this 6 times… point 4 applies to you.

VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE

For professional reasons I will not answer questions regarding:

  1. My opinion of other coaches or specific training systems (DC training, Max-OT, etc.). The reasons are that

a) often people ask those questions to gain ammunitions for online debates on other sites or forums. They end up misquoting me and this puts me in a bad situation.

b) you can’t argue with results. If a system has produced results it means that it works. Now, nothing works forever, so I am not ‘‘pro-systems’’ in that I think that sticking to one precise methodology blindly is a mistake over the long run. I feel that it is much more important to understand the underlying principles that make training effective.

This is my answer to ‘‘is the XWZ system effective?’’: if it’s based on systemic progression, yes it will be effective. But every effective program needs to be changed or cycled to progress over the long run.

c) I think that every successful authority, writer or coach in this field has something to contribute and we can learn from all of them. Some have more to contribute than others and with some you have to weed through more BS to get to the good part. BUT I feel that it is a big mistake on my part to burn any bridges by critiquing a colleague.

  1. Anabolic steroids and other drugs: they are illegal and I do not want to be associated with them. I’m a trainer and a coach, not a pharmacist.

  2. Complete program critics: understand that a thorough program analysis actually takes me more time than writing a new program! My schedule is way too busy to critique every program sent my way, and answering only to a few would be unfair to others.

Furthermore, it is a paying service that I offer so it wouldn’t be fair to my paying clients.

  1. Question reposts: I mentionned this a million times already… I DO NOT respond to people who repost their questions. I feel that this is rude… kinda like saying in a somewhat aggressive voice ‘‘dude, answer me now’’. As I mention I have a limited schedule. I do try to answer as many questions as I can but I sometimes have to make choices.

So if I don’t answer you it doesn’t (always) mean that I don’t like you or that you can’t ask other questions. BUT if you repost a question you can be sure that I will be much less tempted to answer you in the future.

  1. Injury questions: I feel that it is irresponsable to answer specific injury questions without being able to assess the individual myself.

I WILL PERIODICALLY REPOST THIS MESSAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FORUM RUNS SMOOTHLY AND THAT EVERYBODY ENDS UP SATISFIED

[quote]Foenix wrote:
Hey Chris,

I don’t often post, but I’m a big fan of your work.
I’m 17, 6’0, 175 lb’s. Been working out for 'bout 2 years.
My goals are size and strength.

Currently I’m doing a few hours of boxing a day, so I am just hitting the gym three times a week. But starting september I will be completely free to spend my time (when I’m not in school) working out, eating and sleeping.
I have a high work threshold from so much boxing and doing workouts such as CrossFit in the past.

I designed a short program based on a lot of the principles in your past articles, could you take a look at it please?

http://saiyantraining.blogspot.com/

Thanks a lot Chris,

Alex

[/quote]

Read point 3

VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE

For professional reasons I will not answer questions regarding:

  1. My opinion of other coaches or specific training systems (DC training, Max-OT, etc.). The reasons are that

a) often people ask those questions to gain ammunitions for online debates on other sites or forums. They end up misquoting me and this puts me in a bad situation.

b) you can’t argue with results. If a system has produced results it means that it works. Now, nothing works forever, so I am not ‘‘pro-systems’’ in that I think that sticking to one precise methodology blindly is a mistake over the long run. I feel that it is much more important to understand the underlying principles that make training effective.

This is my answer to ‘‘is the XWZ system effective?’’: if it’s based on systemic progression, yes it will be effective. But every effective program needs to be changed or cycled to progress over the long run.

c) I think that every successful authority, writer or coach in this field has something to contribute and we can learn from all of them. Some have more to contribute than others and with some you have to weed through more BS to get to the good part. BUT I feel that it is a big mistake on my part to burn any bridges by critiquing a colleague.
.

  1. Anabolic steroids and other drugs: they are illegal and I do not want to be associated with them. I’m a trainer and a coach, not a pharmacist.

  2. Complete program critics: understand that a thorough program analysis actually takes me more time than writing a new program! My schedule is way too busy to critique every program sent my way, and answering only to a few would be unfair to others.

Furthermore, it is a paying service that I offer so it wouldn’t be fair to my paying clients.

  1. Question reposts: I mentionned this a million times already… I DO NOT respond to people who repost their questions. I feel that this is rude… kinda like saying in a somewhat aggressive voice ‘‘dude, answer me now’’. As I mention I have a limited schedule.

I do try to answer as many questions as I can but I sometimes have to make choices. So if I don’t answer you it doesn’t (always) mean that I don’t like you or that you can’t ask other questions. BUT if you repost a question you can be sure that I will be much less tempted to answer you in the future.

  1. Injury questions: I feel that it is irresponsable to answer specific injury questions without being able to assess the individual myself.

I WILL PERIODICALLY REPOST THIS MESSAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FORUM RUNS SMOOTHLY AND THAT EVERYBODY ENDS UP SATISFIED

I was wondering about your opinion on rest times between successive trainings on the same day. How much time would be minimally acceptable for performance? If at all possible, is there a maximum time not to go past?

CT-

1- I know Charles Poliquin believes in losing fat and gaining muscle for individuals with a higher body fat% through low carb diets. It seems you share many mutual believes in nutrition but idk if this is one of them.

For someone trying to “gain mass and lose fat”, do you still recommend that individual take carbs post workout (through fruits and tropical berries) or not.

2- With that, what would you limit their carb intake to for the day, I’m assuming above 30-50 grams being muscle is trying to be build.
NOTE: I know the actual percent is a factor so lets say 25-30%.

Thanks

CT,

I was reading through the old threads and stumbled across links you posted to Werner Gunthor! Great stuff - admittedly my French is rusty so there was quite a bit lost in translation.

You post a great deal of informative material on CNS recovery, both on a micro and macro level. I know precise evaluations of CNS fatigue is tricky. That being said, what do you recommend to “keep an eye” on CNS/neural fatigue? I’ve heard the standard: morning HR, temperature, and dot test. Too poor for the Omega Wave!

Thanks.

[quote]dunedainranger wrote:
CT,

I was reading through the old threads and stumbled across links you posted to Werner Gunthor! Great stuff - admittedly my French is rusty so there was quite a bit lost in translation.

You post a great deal of informative material on CNS recovery, both on a micro and macro level. I know precise evaluations of CNS fatigue is tricky. That being said, what do you recommend to “keep an eye” on CNS/neural fatigue? I’ve heard the standard: morning HR, temperature, and dot test. Too poor for the Omega Wave!

Thanks.[/quote]

From an old article of mine…

Tip #3: Measure up!

You’ve been training really hard, eating well, and using the best supplements, yet you’re not progressing at a satisfactory rate. Sound familiar?

Well, you might very well be dipping into an overtraining state, be it neural, muscular, or both. But how can you know if you’re doing too much? The following simple measurements, if taken every day, can give you a good idea if something is wrong and what needs fixing.

A) Heart Rate Measures

A1. Morning (resting) heart rate: This is one of the simplest yet most straightforward ways of knowing if you’re performing an excessive amount of high intensity training. Here’s how to use this tool:

�?� You must take this measure first thing in the morning upon waking to avoid fluctuations due to daily activities.

�?� You must always take your measurement in the same position. If you start by taking your pulse lying down, then all of your measures must also be taken in this position because body position influences resting heart rate.

Your RHR is 6-8 beats per minute higher sitting compared to lying down, and 2-4 BPM higher standing compared to sitting. So there can be up to a 12 BPM difference between taking your HR standing up or lying down.

�?� Measure your heart rate by placing your fingers on the carotid artery. Avoid applying too much pressure as this artificially reduces heart rate by activating the baroreceptors.

�?� Measure for a full 60 seconds, not 15 seconds multiplied by 4 (this quadruples the margin of error).

�?� If your RHR is elevated by 3-5 BPM above baseline, you have a slight overexcitation of the sympathetic nervous system, which might indicate incomplete recovery from high intensity work.

�?� If your RHR is elevated by more than 6 BPM above baseline, there’s a significant neural overstrain due to excessive high intensity work.

�?� If there’s a drastic reduction in RHR compared to your baseline, this indicates CNS inhibition which is a sign of type II (addisonic) overtraining. This rarely occurs with strength athletes though; it’s typically due to an excessive volume of endurance work.

A2. Heart rate after cold immersion: This is another effective way of clueing us in on the status of our nervous system (specifically its excitability). It consists of comparing two different heart rates one after the other. You take the first one sitting down (relax for 1-2 minutes before measuring your pulse).

Afterwards you dip your right hand up to the wrist into very cold water and keep it there for 45 seconds. You then immediately take the second measurement. Finally, calculate the difference between both.

A sympathetic nervous system with normal function should lead to an increase in 4-8 BPM under cold conditions. If the increase is above 10 BPM, it indicates sympathetic overactivity which might mean a potential basedowic overtraining state (too much high intensity work).

If the increase is lower than 4 BPM this can indicate sympathetic inhibition, which could mean a potential addisonic overtraining state (too much volume).

A3. Post-workout heart rate: After a training session, heart rate should gradually go down toward baseline level. One hour after a workout, a 10-20% elevation compared to resting heart rate (RHR) is desired.

If the heart rate is more than 20% above the RHR, it indicates that the workload was excessively stressful on the body and nervous system. If the heart rate is elevated by less than 10% above the RHR, it means that the workload for the session was below the capacity of the body to tolerate training and that future workloads can be higher if maximum results are desired.

B) Other Measures

B1. Morning grip strength: Grip strength tested with a hand dynamometer in the morning upon waking has been found by Soviet scientists to be strongly correlated with the working state of the CNS.

If morning grip strength goes down by more than four pounds per hand, it indicates insufficient neural recovery and might necessitate a decrease in the amount of high-intensity training until strength returns to the baseline level.

If morning grip strength goes up by more than four pounds per hand, it means that the CNS is primed to a maximal effort. This might be a good day to either go for a maximum lift or to increase the amount of high-intensity training you’ll be performing.

B2. Body temperature: Oral temperature taken in the morning can clue us in on the metabolic state of the body. Each decrease in temperature of one degree indicates a reduction of 5-10% of the metabolic rate. If that occurs, it’s time for a few days of increased caloric consumption until the value returns to normal (established baseline).

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
PhDguy wrote:
PhDguy wrote:
Coach Thib

I have gone with an old Arnold workout plan. Does this look okay? I’ve tried the 5 day rotation and have completely failed at it. Perhaps because my schedule is intense and I just cant seem to effectively stick with the 5 day rotation.

I found myself missing too much. Currently, I try to hit each muscle group twice a week but do a lighter less strenuous workout on the second time in the week.

Day 1: Pushing muscles (chest/shoulders/triceps)–Heavy / Intense (puke city)
Day 2: Pulling muscles (back/biceps/forearms/legs)–Heavy / Intense (puke city)
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Pushing muscles (chest/shoulders/triceps)–Moderate / light (high reps)
Day 5: Pulling muscles (back/biceps/forearms/ legs)–Moderate / light (high reps)
Day 6: Off
Day 7: Off

Thoughts?

PH

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz…

Thats ok my question doesnt exist.

lol…

Later

PH

I already posted this 6 times… point 4 applies to you.

VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE

For professional reasons I will not answer questions regarding:

  1. My opinion of other coaches or specific training systems (DC training, Max-OT, etc.). The reasons are that

a) often people ask those questions to gain ammunitions for online debates on other sites or forums. They end up misquoting me and this puts me in a bad situation.

b) you can’t argue with results. If a system has produced results it means that it works. Now, nothing works forever, so I am not ‘‘pro-systems’’ in that I think that sticking to one precise methodology blindly is a mistake over the long run. I feel that it is much more important to understand the underlying principles that make training effective.

This is my answer to ‘‘is the XWZ system effective?’’: if it’s based on systemic progression, yes it will be effective. But every effective program needs to be changed or cycled to progress over the long run.

c) I think that every successful authority, writer or coach in this field has something to contribute and we can learn from all of them. Some have more to contribute than others and with some you have to weed through more BS to get to the good part. BUT I feel that it is a big mistake on my part to burn any bridges by critiquing a colleague.

  1. Anabolic steroids and other drugs: they are illegal and I do not want to be associated with them. I’m a trainer and a coach, not a pharmacist.

  2. Complete program critics: understand that a thorough program analysis actually takes me more time than writing a new program! My schedule is way too busy to critique every program sent my way, and answering only to a few would be unfair to others.

Furthermore, it is a paying service that I offer so it wouldn’t be fair to my paying clients.

  1. Question reposts: I mentionned this a million times already… I DO NOT respond to people who repost their questions. I feel that this is rude… kinda like saying in a somewhat aggressive voice ‘‘dude, answer me now’’. As I mention I have a limited schedule. I do try to answer as many questions as I can but I sometimes have to make choices.

So if I don’t answer you it doesn’t (always) mean that I don’t like you or that you can’t ask other questions. BUT if you repost a question you can be sure that I will be much less tempted to answer you in the future.

  1. Injury questions: I feel that it is irresponsable to answer specific injury questions without being able to assess the individual myself.

I WILL PERIODICALLY REPOST THIS MESSAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FORUM RUNS SMOOTHLY AND THAT EVERYBODY ENDS UP SATISFIED[/quote]

Excellent!

Thanks Coach. :slight_smile:

Best regards.

PH

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
in10 wrote:
Hey CT, quick question.

Many times I’ve heard you say that most people don’t need anymore than 12 sets per muscle. So, 12 sets is your recommended maximum.

But, what about a recommended minimum?

Specially, when training for mass/size/muscle, do you have an ideal minimum amount of volume per muscle per workout?

For example, I used to train each muscle once per week, and did something like 8-12 sets per muscle during each muscle’s 1 weekly training session. So, weekly volume was 8-12 sets per week for each muscle.

I wasn’t really happy with my progress training that way, so I decided to increase the frequency to twice per week (upper, lower, off, upper, lower, off, off).

I don’t think I could (nor should) attempt to still do 8-12 sets per muscle per workout, but I wasn’t sure how low I could go per workout without it becoming too low.

I was thinking of doing something like 4-6 sets per muscle per workout now, which would add up to 8-12 sets per muscle per week, which is the same weekly volume I had before. The difference now is I’ve upped the frequency and split up the weekly volume.

Basically what I’m very poorly trying to ask here is, when training for mass/size/muscle, will 4-6 sets per muscle group twice per week be sufficient enough volume?

Thanks in advance for even taking the time to read this. It’s greatly appreciated.

MY GOD!!! More misinterpretation of something I said. I never said that 12 sets was the maximum one should do!!! I said that most peoples should be able to stimulate max growth with 12 sets. But I sometimes use more in certain programs, and sometimes much less.

I really cannot answer your question because there is no universal answer. For some people 1 set once a week will be enough, others will need at least 10 sets. It’s a matter of:

  • individual response to exercise
  • external stress
  • the intensity of each set[/quote]

Geez Thibby you are an ornery little cuss aren’t you?

Lol…

PH

CT,

I was hoping to get some of your thoughts relating to the single-point suspension pull-up bar pictured above?

On the one hand, it would drastically decrease you number of pull-ups and any external load used in the short-term, but concurrently it would drastically increase the overall tension in the muscles working to complete each pull-up rep.

I would think the increased tension would be a stronger hypertrophy stimulus, but you have said that a muscle needs to be recruited and fatigued in order to grow, and I’m assuming the reduction in reps/external load would lead to less cumulative fatigue. So given this, I essentially have 2 questions:

  1. Would this exercise stimulate lat growth at all or would the greatest increases in tension and fatigue be occurring in the gripping muscles and those stabilizing the GH joints, scapulae, and the spine while the lats would receive an inferior growth stimulus?

  2. Would these single-point suspension pull-ups be potentially useful in strength-focused phases, since the resulting increase in pull-up performance would result in a greater overall hypertrophy stimulus on the lats when you return to “regular” pull-ups in subsequent phases?

I’d greatly appreciate your thoughts on these as well as how you might recommend making use of this single-point suspension pull-up bar (or why you’d advise against it).

Thanks for your time and help, coach.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

Not true. But you can believe what you want, I don’t care either way!

Fruits:

  • have more micronutrients and phytonutrients than grains and other complex carbs. These have a myriad of health benefits

  • are easier to digest. This is especially true of grains which are highly allergenic. And if it hads gluten, it’s even worse. Gluten can change the shape of the digestige mucosa which decreases OVERALL (all nutrients) absorption.

  • grains are acid-promoting which can be negative for several metabolic processes including fat loss, energy production and muscle growth.[/quote]

i am not trying to just believe whatever i want, i am just trying to understand the reasoning behind your statements. my main concern is not necessarily with the health aspect, but more so its affect on muscle and fat gain.

I see that acid promoting is bad and fruits have high health benefits but what about minimizing fat gain? again i am not trying to not believe you, it’s just that the article i posted explained exactly why fruit can cause the liver glycogen to fill up and cause fat gain easier than good complex carbs.

                                            Thanks

Thib:

Been ketogenic for…man, for a while now, and recently at a physical was told I have elevated LDL, and that my cholestorol to HDL ratio was less than ideal.

Any suggestions on what I can modify to bring down the bad stuff? A day will consist typically of two mixed green salads, a sizable portion of steamed broc or cauliflower, as well as cucumber and celery throughout - this is in addition to my protein sources (which are typical).

Should I limit my red meat consumption to once per week perhaps?

I get results being low carb and I’m pretty frustrated that I might have to move away from it.

Edit - also 6 Flameout and 4 Poliquin fish oil caps per day.

CT,

I really enjoy your perspective and articles.

Do you offer training program design/services on an online/remote basis?

Thanks again for all the great posts and articles.

Thib,

No offense, but don’t even think about teaching in an academic environment. With your tone and attitude, you’d be out on your ass in nothing flat.