[quote]FatMom wrote:
Christian,
I have noticed a new brand of meat at metro recently, they have all kind of wild meat like elk wappiti and bison. They claim the stuff is “100% natural”.They are sealed and in a kind of green box.
Do you know if its really worth paying twice the price for this?[/quote]
I’ve been shopping at IGA lately. I’ll go to Metro, take a look and will get back to you.
Thib,
I won’t post it here to avoid further clogging your thread, but if you get a free moment, I’d be curious to get your thoughts vis-a-vis the take on post-workout nutrition ideas given in the following blog post:
http://brianstpierretraining.com/?p=239
I’ve read a lot of your thoughts on Peri-workout nutrition but also no that you are rarely if ever, dogmatic, when it comes to training and nutrition ideas and more of an “it depends on the situation” kind of guy. Given this I was just curious to hear your thoughts on that link.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
My recommendation regarding depth is to go down as low as proper biomechanics allows: this means that if you can’t maintain a proper mechanical position, don’t go lower. For example the low back shoulder be arched, the moment it starts to lose its arch, you are too low for your structure.
[/quote]
Thanks, CT!
Hey Coach Thib,
I’ve started a mass gain phase around 6weeks ago and I’ve allready gained around 16lb. I’m eating a high carb/protein diet (300g+ carbs,170+prot) and the fat gain seems to accelerate now and the bloat is damn annoying since I am quite lean and so now i look like a blurred pig now. In my guess it’s the carb (btw caloric intake aint high either 2.5k cal a day). Would you reccomend a higher fat/protein - low carb approach for gaining? If so would appreciate a daily meal sample ;).
thanks,Teusz
Coach Thibaudeau,
I just finished reading chapter five of you book and I want to know if the following calculations are correct using the formula in your book.
In Chapter 5 “Nutrition to Maximize Muscle Growth and Fat Loss”, I followed the formula to the best of my comprehension to establish the proper caloric intake for the following person:
Sex: Female
Age: 22
Weight: 182
Bodyfat %: 41.1
BMI: 32.9
Goal: Maximum Fat Loss
So used the formula below to calculate the daily caloric intake from Fats and Carbs which I suppose is a total of 1554.684, seperate from the 232.5g of protein (1.25g as sugested for women x bodyweight).
-BMR = 655 + (9.6 x lean weight in kg) + (1.7 x height in cm) (4.7 x age)
-So for a 22 year old figure girl of 182lbs with 41.1% body fat, so a lean weight of 107.38lbs (48.809kg) on 5’4" (163cm) it comes up to:
-BMR = 655 + (9.6 x 48.809kg) + (1.7 x 162cm) ? (4.7 x 22)
(BMR = 655 + 468.57 + 275.4 - 103.4)
-BMR = 1295.57 calories per day
-Activity Level Factor = 1.6
-Daily Energy Expenditure = 1295.57 x 1.6
-Daily Energy Expenditure = 2072.912
-Daily Caloric Intake = 2072.912 x .75
-Daily Caloric Intake = 1554.684 Per Day
So the daily breakdown of calories are:
-Protein = 903 calories (232.5g Per Day)
-Fat = 1243.7472 calories (80 % from 1554.684)
-Carbs = 310.9368 Calories (20 % from 1554.684)
please let me know if I screwed this up or not. Thanks!
ronh
Hi Thibs
First, like everybody else,
thank you for your time in here.
In this “world”, you are truly my idol.
Now, I’ve been reading alot of pages,
and so on, but I was wondering…
What is your take on Binge eating disorders,
and how to overcome it ?
Here, I’m talking about especially in the eveings, eating alot of crappy foods ( The worst of it kinds ) and have gainet alot of weight, close to 40 pounds in the last 1 ½ year. My mind is totally jacked up, and I try to find excuses all the time, to eat crappy foods.
I used to be fat, then I had a hell of a good time, and then this happened.
My life has totally been screwed,
and I just want to be lean again,
and honestly… To be happy, and enjoy life.
It would mean alot, if you had the time to answer this.
Once again, thank you for your time in here,
take care.
Best regards,
Martin (Denmark)
Coach,
Since re-composition (i.e. gaining muscle/while losing bodyfat) is not really realistic, what would you suggest to someone who wants to be the same scale weight, but with an entirely different appearance in regards to muscle to fat?
Should they bulk up, then trim back down to that weight via losing the fat?
Coach Thibaudeau,
When your goal is max srength/power, would you recommend ramping the weights to one set of your max for a given number of reps, or use straight weigh for all setst?
For example if you were doing bench bress 4 x 3
135 x 5
175 x 5
205 x 5
225 x 5
Thanks!
[quote]teuszmire wrote:
Hey Coach Thib,
I’ve started a mass gain phase around 6weeks ago and I’ve allready gained around 16lb. I’m eating a high carb/protein diet (300g+ carbs,170+prot) and the fat gain seems to accelerate now and the bloat is damn annoying since I am quite lean and so now i look like a blurred pig now. In my guess it’s the carb (btw caloric intake aint high either 2.5k cal a day). Would you reccomend a higher fat/protein - low carb approach for gaining? If so would appreciate a daily meal sample ;).
thanks,Teusz[/quote]
You didn’t give me your bodyweight and % percentage so it’s hard for me to judge your diet. You also didn’t mention the type of carbs you are ingesting.
From the first look of it your protein to carbs ratio is too low.
Carbs amount itself is not the major problem (although if you consume too much energy for what you are using you might get fatter). But carbs timing and type is.
I’d start at around 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight, 1.0g of carbs per pound consumed mostly post workout (post-workout shake and meal immediately after) and around 0.5 - 0.75g of fat per pound.
Depending on how you are progressing, adjust your energetic nutrients (carbs and fat) up or down.
[quote]ronh wrote:
Coach Thibaudeau,
I just finished reading chapter five of you book and I want to know if the following calculations are correct using the formula in your book.
In Chapter 5 “Nutrition to Maximize Muscle Growth and Fat Loss”, I followed the formula to the best of my comprehension to establish the proper caloric intake for the following person:
Sex: Female
Age: 22
Weight: 182
Bodyfat %: 41.1
BMI: 32.9
Goal: Maximum Fat Loss
So used the formula below to calculate the daily caloric intake from Fats and Carbs which I suppose is a total of 1554.684, seperate from the 232.5g of protein (1.25g as sugested for women x bodyweight).
-BMR = 655 + (9.6 x lean weight in kg) + (1.7 x height in cm) (4.7 x age)
-So for a 22 year old figure girl of 182lbs with 41.1% body fat, so a lean weight of 107.38lbs (48.809kg) on 5’4" (163cm) it comes up to:
-BMR = 655 + (9.6 x 48.809kg) + (1.7 x 162cm) ? (4.7 x 22)
(BMR = 655 + 468.57 + 275.4 - 103.4)
-BMR = 1295.57 calories per day
-Activity Level Factor = 1.6
-Daily Energy Expenditure = 1295.57 x 1.6
-Daily Energy Expenditure = 2072.912
-Daily Caloric Intake = 2072.912 x .75
-Daily Caloric Intake = 1554.684 Per Day
So the daily breakdown of calories are:
-Protein = 903 calories (232.5g Per Day)
-Fat = 1243.7472 calories (80 % from 1554.684)
-Carbs = 310.9368 Calories (20 % from 1554.684)
please let me know if I screwed this up or not. Thanks!
ronh [/quote]
At 41% bodyfat I would not use the ‘‘Maximize muscle growth’’ formula, but the fat loss one.
[quote]Magic-MJ-Music wrote:
Hi Thibs
First, like everybody else,
thank you for your time in here.
In this “world”, you are truly my idol.
Now, I’ve been reading alot of pages,
and so on, but I was wondering…
What is your take on Binge eating disorders,
and how to overcome it ?
Here, I’m talking about especially in the eveings, eating alot of crappy foods ( The worst of it kinds ) and have gainet alot of weight, close to 40 pounds in the last 1 ½ year. My mind is totally jacked up, and I try to find excuses all the time, to eat crappy foods.
I used to be fat, then I had a hell of a good time, and then this happened.
My life has totally been screwed,
and I just want to be lean again,
and honestly… To be happy, and enjoy life.
It would mean alot, if you had the time to answer this.
Once again, thank you for your time in here,
take care.
Best regards,
Martin (Denmark)[/quote]
Sadly, despite being quite knowledgeable in many aspects, psychology is not my main area of expertise.
There are no ‘‘tricks’’ to change your bad habits, just like there is no trick to stop smoking. You can use all the gimmicks you want, it ultimately comes down to discipline and the strength of your will.
At some point not being fat will be more important than eating your pleasure food and then you’ll kick yourself hard enough to get back on track.
Coach ive been reading about certain diets ie:scott abels cycle diet & the cheat to lose diet!
I know they use leptin to there advandtage!but how???
Im trying to research Leptin but i cant find any decent studys or facts on this hormone!
As you know these diets basically use full binge cheat days once a week and if lean up to 2 !
Whats your views on these diets!
Ps:Im not asking you to question the 2 coaches in question just your view on such eating plans!
I personally dont think id do well on these diets as i think i would suffer ALOT of mental emontion due to the binging !
But they CANT be healthy surely !??
thanks for your time !sorry for the long post!
[quote]Droogan Leader wrote:
Coach,
Since re-composition (i.e. gaining muscle/while losing bodyfat) is not really realistic, what would you suggest to someone who wants to be the same scale weight, but with an entirely different appearance in regards to muscle to fat?
Should they bulk up, then trim back down to that weight via losing the fat?[/quote]
It depends on the individual’s starting composition. If the individual has a ton of fat to lose then it would be ill-advised for him to ‘‘bulk up’’… well, nobody should ‘‘bulk up’’. Eating for mass, yes, but I hate the term ‘‘bulking up’’.
Anyway, if the guy’s main problem is a lack of muscle, then he should focus on growth first.
Thank you for your answer 
I WILL get back on track, since I cant stand the look of my self in the mirror.
I’ve just started a serious diet plan.
For 3 weeks or so I will be using the Velocity Diet with some small changes like, some more fat and some chicken breast, nothing big. Just to get into ketosis faster.
I believe that whole clean foods is the way to go, and not to rely totally on protein powder.
My diet % is somewhat like 43% protein 8% carb and 49% fat.
I tried to go low carb before, but not for a long time, so i need to get adapted.
Maybe something like 70% fat would be better the first 3 weeks, But I will try this and see what happens.
After the 3 - 4 weeks I will go to whole foods.
The reason why I want to go on VD in the beginning, is because I think it will help me find the great taste in green veggies, instead of all those sugary stuff,
and my body will get a kick out of it.
Anyway, thank you for the answer
Though its been a while, I hope you had a great wedding.
Take Care,
Martin
[quote]Magic-MJ-Music wrote:
For 3 weeks or so I will be using the Velocity diet with some small changes like, some more fat and some chicken breast.
[/quote]
Don’t let Shugs hear that!
LR
LOL i do the work and get the link wrong HURRAH me.
i hate computers !
http://tnation.synthasite.com/resources/Thibs.pdf
Here is the correct URL, copy/pasted from the other thread.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
ronh wrote:
Coach Thibaudeau,
I just finished reading chapter five of you book and I want to know if the following calculations are correct using the formula in your book.
In Chapter 5 “Nutrition to Maximize Muscle Growth and Fat Loss”, I followed the formula to the best of my comprehension to establish the proper caloric intake for the following person:
Sex: Female
Age: 22
Weight: 182
Bodyfat %: 41.1
BMI: 32.9
Goal: Maximum Fat Loss
So used the formula below to calculate the daily caloric intake from Fats and Carbs which I suppose is a total of 1554.684, seperate from the 232.5g of protein (1.25g as sugested for women x bodyweight).
-BMR = 655 + (9.6 x lean weight in kg) + (1.7 x height in cm) (4.7 x age)
-So for a 22 year old figure girl of 182lbs with 41.1% body fat, so a lean weight of 107.38lbs (48.809kg) on 5’4" (163cm) it comes up to:
-BMR = 655 + (9.6 x 48.809kg) + (1.7 x 162cm) ? (4.7 x 22)
(BMR = 655 + 468.57 + 275.4 - 103.4)
-BMR = 1295.57 calories per day
-Activity Level Factor = 1.6
-Daily Energy Expenditure = 1295.57 x 1.6
-Daily Energy Expenditure = 2072.912
-Daily Caloric Intake = 2072.912 x .75
-Daily Caloric Intake = 1554.684 Per Day
So the daily breakdown of calories are:
-Protein = 903 calories (232.5g Per Day)
-Fat = 1243.7472 calories (80 % from 1554.684)
-Carbs = 310.9368 Calories (20 % from 1554.684)
please let me know if I screwed this up or not. Thanks!
ronh
At 41% bodyfat I would not use the ‘‘Maximize muscle growth’’ formula, but the fat loss one.[/quote]
That’s the problem, I thought I was using the Fat Lost one. Would you help please? Thanks!
Sex: Female
Age: 22
Weight: 182 lbs.
Height: 163 cm
Bodyfat %: 41.1%
BMI: 32.9
Activity Level: 1.6
Goal: Maximum Fat Loss
ronh
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
You didn’t give me your bodyweight and % percentage so it’s hard for me to judge your diet. You also didn’t mention the type of carbs you are ingesting.
From the first look of it your protein to carbs ratio is too low.
Carbs amount itself is not the major problem (although if you consume too much energy for what you are using you might get fatter). But carbs timing and type is.
I’d start at around 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight, 1.0g of carbs per pound consumed mostly post workout (post-workout shake and meal immediately after) and around 0.5 - 0.75g of fat per pound.
Depending on how you are progressing, adjust your energetic nutrients (carbs and fat) up or down.[/quote]
Sorry bout that. Weight is 182lb and Bf% is 11%.
Carbs I ingest are mainly plain oats,fat free yogurt,fruit(suchas apples,prunes pwo), thin wholegrain bread(5.5g carb per slice, 2g fibre),veggies and rice cakes(100% rice). From info your suggesting i assume good idea is to get my protein up to 270g,carbs down to 180 and fat to 135g. Total would be around 3k calories daily. Cycling it on working days 3k and on rest days 2.7k or so would be fine Thib or the whole calorie cycling work/nonwork days is bullsh!t? What carbs do you suggest to ingest PWO from whole food sources? And a daily meal plan if possible ? Thanks,teusz.
[quote]London Runner wrote:
Magic-MJ-Music wrote:
For 3 weeks or so I will be using the Velocity diet with some small changes like, some more fat and some chicken breast.
Don’t let Shugs hear that!
LR[/quote]
Dont worry, its nothing special.
I took the meat out of the freezer before i decided to start the diet, and I dont just wanna waste it