Thib's Q&A

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Sonelag wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Sonelag wrote:
Hi Thib,

What is your opinion on 100% fullgrain ryebread for carbs when dieting? 11g protein, 45g carbs, and 1,8g fat and 10g fiber per 100g.

I’m not a big fan of grains, especially not when dieting. I posted a list of my preferred carb sources a while ago, grains where something like 4th or 5th on the list. Rye is one of the ‘‘least bad’’ grains, but it’s still 4th or 5th on my list.

Since fruits and vegetables are preferred over rye, how much carbs from fruits would be the maximum? If I have understood correcly you should be careful with fructose especially when cutting.

Fructose itself is not that bad… it is HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP that is really bad. Plus, despite the name ‘fructose’ (fruit sugar) many fruits are actually very low in fructose. I ran a list of them earlier in this thread. [/quote]

CT,

Are there times you’d recommend comparing the fructose amounts in different fruits before choosing a fruit to eat or is it usually(or even always better) to simply focus on consuming the widest variety of fruits (and veggies possible) while not getting excessive (for your current body composition) with the intake of fruit?

[quote]RustBeltGym wrote:
Are there times you’d recommend comparing the fructose amounts in different fruits before choosing a fruit to eat or is it usually(or even always better) to simply focus on consuming the widest variety of fruits (and veggies possible) while not getting excessive (for your current body composition) with the intake of fruit?[/quote]

The only time to really go for the fruits with the less fructose would be immediately post-workout. Otherwise it will not be a problem if you keep your daily intake reasonable. Even fruits high in fructose have less than 50% of their carbs as fructose, so it will take a pretty hefty amount of fruits to get too much fructose.

To be honest, I am yet to see someone get fat from eating fruits. If they are getting fat it is mostly due to other food in their diet.

Now, if one is trying to really get ripped, eating too much fruits can slow down fat loss. But since when getting ripped you should be limiting your carbs intake anyway, you will rarely eat too much fruits.

For example, if your diet calls for 75g of carbs per day, if you have all of those 75g from fruits it will not slow down fat loss compared to eating those 75g of carbs from other sources.

Hello again Sir,

I appreciate you answering my last question, and i have another if you have time.

I saw you answer re: magnesium i guess i lucked out having my workouts late at night 2 hrs before bed.

Besides Zinc and Magesium is there any other minerals, you have found to be helpfull ?

If you have some, could you give me a brief outline as to how much and possible benefits.

I thank you for your time and patience in answering all questions.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Sonelag wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Sonelag wrote:
Hi Thib,

What is your opinion on 100% fullgrain ryebread for carbs when dieting? 11g protein, 45g carbs, and 1,8g fat and 10g fiber per 100g.

I’m not a big fan of grains, especially not when dieting. I posted a list of my preferred carb sources a while ago, grains where something like 4th or 5th on the list. Rye is one of the ‘‘least bad’’ grains, but it’s still 4th or 5th on my list.

Since fruits and vegetables are preferred over rye, how much carbs from fruits would be the maximum? If I have understood correcly you should be careful with fructose especially when cutting.

Fructose itself is not that bad… it is HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP that is really bad. Plus, despite the name ‘fructose’ (fruit sugar) many fruits are actually very low in fructose. I ran a list of them earlier in this thread. [/quote]

Thank you for your time and answers!

Hey Coach,
when wanting to gain quality mass with as little fat gain as possible,
would you reccomend a straight bulking cycle or alternating with bulking and cutting cycles to keep the fat gain to a minimum, if so what duration would you suggest for each?
Cheers.

[quote]miniarnold wrote:
Hey Coach,
when wanting to gain quality mass with as little fat gain as possible,
would you reccomend a straight bulking cycle or alternating with bulking and cutting cycles to keep the fat gain to a minimum, if so what duration would you suggest for each?
Cheers.[/quote]

  1. I do not like ‘‘bulking’’… in truth, bulking means eating as much as possible to gain as much total weight as you can. This results in too much fat gain in most individuals. I do recommend ‘‘mass gaining’’ which is a more appropriate term; you are eating a lot of food in order to grow a your goal IS to gain as much muscle as possible, but you want to avoid excessive fat gain.

*IMPORTANT NOTE TO ALL THOSE WITH BAD READING COMPREHENSION: When talking about ‘‘bulking’’ on forums, most people REALLY mean ‘‘mass gaining’’. They just use the term ‘‘bulking’’ either because of tradition or because it sounds cool.

  1. While alternating periods of ‘‘mass gaining’’ and ‘‘fat loss’’ is a decent approach, especially if you already have a good amount of muscle, most people don’t do it right; they use phases that are too short (e.g. muscle gaining for 4 weeks, fat loss for 4 weeks). To make an appreciable gain in muscle you need to focus on that goal for at least 10-12 weeks (preferably more), so doing a 4-6 weeks ‘‘mass gaining’’ phase is often not ideal for maximum progress.

Fat loss phases on the other hand can be shorter because fat loss is more rapid than muscle growth if things are done properly. A 2-3lbs fat loss per week is pretty easy to achieve with an halfway decent diet, but gaining that amount of muscle could take you 4 weeks and as much as 6 or even 8 in some people.

So you could focus on gaining muscle for 10 weeks then 2-4 weeks of fat loss, then back on 10 weeks of mass gaining, etc.

OR, this is a strategy that I like to use during mass gaining phases, include 1 or 2 days per week of ‘‘damage control’’: you eat for maximum growth 5-6 days a week and include 1-2 days per week where you limit your energy and carbs intake. In other words you eat below maintenance; less than 50g of carbs during the day, keep fat relatively low too but keep protein high. On that day do not strength train, but do cardio and/or metabolic training (see my Monday with Thib article on the subject).

This(these) control day(s) will allow you to eat more on the other days of the week without fear of gaining too much fat because the control days are there to limit the damage.

Depending on how you are progressing, add or remove control days. For example, start at one control day per week. If you find yourself gaining fat too much, add a second one (control days should not be on consecutive days), if you are still pilling on fat too much add a third one (do NOT include more than 3 control days per week).

If you find that your gains are slowing down, remove one control day or make it less severe, etc.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

The only time to really go for the fruits with the less fructose would be immediately post-workout.

[/quote]

Hey Coach,

I’ve been trying to think this through. Is this because fructose is primarily used to replenish liver glycogen stores and after a work-out you’d want to focus on replenishing muscle glycogen?

I think I may be missing something here.

Thanks

[quote]Flow wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

The only time to really go for the fruits with the less fructose would be immediately post-workout.

Hey Coach,

I’ve been trying to think this through. Is this because fructose is primarily used to replenish liver glycogen stores and after a work-out you’d want to focus on replenishing muscle glycogen?

I think I may be missing something here.

Thanks[/quote]

That’s one of the reasons, (fructose has to be converted into glucose to be ‘‘storable’’ as muscle glycogen) and it is not absorbed as fast as other higher glycemic carbs.

CT, or anybody,

Do you know where in Montreal or nearby in Quebec is a good place to purchase resistance bands?

Coach,
It is accepted that in weight lifting diferent rep ranges used will result in diferent adaptations in the body. Why is the 6-12 rep range the specific range for maximum hypertrophy?

Coach,

Was wondering if the old adage of higher reps vs lower reps producing different qualities (ie texture) of muscle had any truth to it. Many people mention that sarcomeric hypertrophy has a very different appearance than sarcoplasmic, but I have not really seen any evidence of this.

Thanks,
Steve

CT,
How would you log:

30g BCAAs
30g glutamine
20g glycine
10g leucine

in a food log?

Since these are amino acids, I am assuming that they would be 4 cal/g. Therefore, the total calories would be 360. Is the correct way to approach logging carb-free post-workout nutrition? If I add whey 60g isolate to this, it would add ~240 calories.

I know the body recognizes nutrients and not calories, but I am wondering if these separate amino acids would be logged as if they were complete proteins. Thanks for the help and sorry if you’ve already written about this.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
miniarnold wrote:
Hey Coach,
when wanting to gain quality mass with as little fat gain as possible,
would you reccomend a straight bulking cycle or alternating with bulking and cutting cycles to keep the fat gain to a minimum, if so what duration would you suggest for each?
Cheers.

  1. I do not like ‘‘bulking’’… in truth, bulking means eating as much as possible to gain as much total weight as you can. This results in too much fat gain in most individuals. I do recommend ‘‘mass gaining’’ which is a more appropriate term; you are eating a lot of food in order to grow a your goal IS to gain as much muscle as possible, but you want to avoid excessive fat gain.

*IMPORTANT NOTE TO ALL THOSE WITH BAD READING COMPREHENSION: When talking about ‘‘bulking’’ on forums, most people REALLY mean ‘‘mass gaining’’. They just use the term ‘‘bulking’’ either because of tradition or because it sounds cool.

  1. While alternating periods of ‘‘mass gaining’’ and ‘‘fat loss’’ is a decent approach, especially if you already have a good amount of muscle, most people don’t do it right; they use phases that are too short (e.g. muscle gaining for 4 weeks, fat loss for 4 weeks). To make an appreciable gain in muscle you need to focus on that goal for at least 10-12 weeks (preferably more), so doing a 4-6 weeks ‘‘mass gaining’’ phase is often not ideal for maximum progress.

Fat loss phases on the other hand can be shorter because fat loss is more rapid than muscle growth if things are done properly. A 2-3lbs fat loss per week is pretty easy to achieve with an halfway decent diet, but gaining that amount of muscle could take you 4 weeks and as much as 6 or even 8 in some people.

So you could focus on gaining muscle for 10 weeks then 2-4 weeks of fat loss, then back on 10 weeks of mass gaining, etc.

OR, this is a strategy that I like to use during mass gaining phases, include 1 or 2 days per week of ‘‘damage control’’: you eat for maximum growth 5-6 days a week and include 1-2 days per week where you limit your energy and carbs intake. In other words you eat below maintenance; less than 50g of carbs during the day, keep fat relatively low too but keep protein high. On that day do not strength train, but do cardio and/or metabolic training (see my Monday with Thib article on the subject).

This(these) control day(s) will allow you to eat more on the other days of the week without fear of gaining too much fat because the control days are there to limit the damage.

Depending on how you are progressing, add or remove control days. For example, start at one control day per week. If you find yourself gaining fat too much, add a second one (control days should not be on consecutive days), if you are still pilling on fat too much add a third one (do NOT include more than 3 control days per week).

If you find that your gains are slowing down, remove one control day or make it less severe, etc.[/quote]

Thank you, very informative.

CT, can you clear up some questions I have about HIIT? I know studies have proven doing HIIT increases fat burning AFTER the HIIT. These are my questions:

  1. How long does it take for this effect to take place? For example does it happen even if you do 10 minutes (say 10 20 sec sprints with 40 sec. rest?)

  2. Nutrition!! How does this effect the process:

  • Before…does eating carbs before stop the increase in fat burning? Sometimes it seems carbs before actually increases performance? Or should one eat more carbs the day before so glycogen is fuller and then use no carbs around HIIT?

  • After…does eating carbs right AFTER stop it? If not would Surge after be optimal ?

  • After - what about eating carbs in the meal maybe 1 hour later…does that stop it? Would fruit be okay?

Then what about fats before or after??

I’m implementing just one short session of HIIT a week (bike sprints) I’m just not sure how to address nutrition around it. I do it first thing in the morning…

Oh yes, and is it silly to do a short HIIT session after a weight session? Do you not get the metabolic benefit of doing it seperate? (ie is your metabolism raised from weights so doing more is not going to add anything?)

Thanks!

CT,

When transitioning from a period of eating where you were not previously measuring out food to the exact ounce to one where very exact portions are measured out(for show prep, peaking, etc.), how do you begin to adjust food intake at first since you may not know exactly where you are at in terms of amounts? Does experience combined with “eyeballing” daily portion sizes prior to the switch give you an idea of where you were at during the “general” phase and then you simply start adjusting from there?

I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on how best to avoid over or under shooting daily nutrient intake after having switched from a general to a specific dietary phase(that is, other than simply measuring out meals year round). And do you think measuring year round is a bad idea or more reasonable than it might initially seem, assuming a person is responsible for preparing the vast majority of his own meals?

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

To make an appreciable gain in muscle you need to focus on that goal for at least 10-12 weeks (preferably more), so doing a 4-6 weeks ‘‘mass gaining’’ phase is often not ideal for maximum progress.

[/quote]

Thib,

While longer mass gain periods are generally better than ones that are too brief, do you feel there is an upper limit to the length of such a phase, or can a mass phase simply be continued for as long as progress is still happening and fat gain has not reached an unacceptable level?

I was also wondering if you would help clarify something for me. When transitioning between shorter training blocks within a lengthier mass-gaining phase (e.g. switching from higher intensity/ lower volume to lower intensity/higher volume- and vice versa), do you recommend adjusting nutrient intake based upon these changes in parameters, or do you simply continue consuming the daily amounts from the previous phase and base adjustments upon bi- or tri-weekly body composition assessments?

CT, in terms of ice hockey if an thlete is on the ice 3 times a week but no checking would you call that in or off season in regards to how he should train?

Hey Coach,

I was just wondering about the differences between upright rows and high pulls.

One of the cons in using upright rows is the damage they can cause to the shoulder girdle, but will that be the same in high pulls?

cheers

I’m currently cutting with the Anabolic Diet. I had a question about being fat adapted.

From my understanding, the main benefit to low-carb diets is becoming fat adapted, which will cause your body to use stored fat for energy in the absence of fat in the diet.

With that in mind, would it be beneficial, from a fat loss standpoint, to have one or two days a week were fat is kept low (maybe 20-30% of calories), carbs under the usual 30g, and protein making up the rest of calories? It seems to me that this would spare muscle loss for the day and really amplify fat loss.

Am I completely off base with this idea?

Thanks a lot.

Would metabolic circuits be ok on a low carbs diet. I really liked your article on the circuit, but was just curious if I needed some carbs or not for them.