CT, with the HPMass program i’ve found that the second day of either the upper or lower days i really hit a groove with the lifts and the day in general. I really like the concentrated loading aspect of the program and it had me thinking, i know you had mentioned that you at one time had trained 5 days in a row, as well as built up enough work capacity to do week 3’s volume twice a day, i’m curious could an extra day be added to the program, either a third upper or third lower day?
I’m sure just extra sled work would probably be more productive, i’ve basically been doing sled work of some sort everyday now. Just curious about the in’s and out’s of concentrated loading or if this idea is basically the equivalent of investing my training finances with Bernie Madoff.
CT, what are views of doing doing a wave loading of 3-2-1 with slightly increasing weight (5% increase) if one wants to increase his performance in his first and only rep of a set. I find I can get the volume in and yet push slightly heavier weight (roughly close to 95% of my max) without feeling drain when I do this for many cycle of waves (up to 4). I mean I am a recreation lifter and I just enjoy doing this kind of lifting, and it obviously work for me becos the weights or number of wave cycle seem to go up at every workout but it would be nice if u could give ur comment on this method.
Btw, I have found that even when the total number of reps is low (maybe about 13 sets or ard 25 reps) but I can feel I did a lot of work during the whole 30min.
just a small question: in your IBB program, those ramping sets didn’t have so much calculation for the weight we use, but in your HP Mass there’re calcuations for those sets. which way is better? can i just use “feel” rather than calculation for HP Mass program? thanks
Regarding the upper body work on Lower body pressing days, and vice versa, do we follow the same loading protocol through the whole 6 weeks or do we increase the same way we increase the loading of the primary movements? The sample routines only outline the primary movements for the 6 weeks.
[quote]vigilance wrote:
Regarding the upper body work on Lower body pressing days, and vice versa, do we follow the same loading protocol through the whole 6 weeks or do we increase the same way we increase the loading of the primary movements? The sample routines only outline the primary movements for the 6 weeks.
[/quote]it’s the same but just do 1 exercise per day
Thibs, if training in the morning or early afternoon while doing “the pulse feast”, would there be any benefit to feast after the workout for 4 hours and then pulse later in the evening, instead of the other way around as written in the article?
[quote]Italiano wrote:
Thibs, if training in the morning or early afternoon while doing “the pulse feast”, would there be any benefit to feast after the workout for 4 hours and then pulse later in the evening, instead of the other way around as written in the article?
Thanks[/quote]
Thibs already explained that after a large meal your body goes into “rest and digest” mode. If you do this at the start of the day then you will have to go the whole day feeling sluggish and sending mixed signals to your body. By the time you go to bed you will be having trouble sleeping.
the ideal way to structure this is a pm workout, followed by a feast about an hour later.
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[quote]Italiano wrote:
Thibs, if training in the morning or early afternoon while doing “the pulse feast”, would there be any benefit to feast after the workout for 4 hours and then pulse later in the evening, instead of the other way around as written in the article?
Thanks[/quote]
no, I asked the same question earlier, the pulse feast is preferable for someone who has a pm lift.
I was looking at what Alex described as your newest training strategy, the one with massive pumps. I was wondering if you made any breakthrough descovery or result with it?
Is this method serving it’s purpoise to drive more blood and thus more nutrients to the muscles?
I get that it is a little metabolically costing, but how’s the CNS taking this type of work?
I’m just about to finish week 5 of your HP mass program and am really liking the results I’ve seen.
I had a question for you about the 3RM retest week though.
I’m planning on doing one 3RM test for each of my lifts (3 upper performance, 2 lower performance) for the first 5 days of the week and doing a neural charge workout all 7 days out of that retest week to keep my nervous system fresh and keep the 3RM testing from burning me out.
My question is…would it be better in your experience to do the 3RM in the morning and the neural charge in the evening, or vice versa?
I’m just about to finish week 5 of your HP mass program and am really liking the results I’ve seen.
I had a question for you about the 3RM retest week though.
I’m planning on doing one 3RM test for each of my lifts (3 upper performance, 2 lower performance) for the first 5 days of the week and doing a neural charge workout all 7 days out of that retest week to keep my nervous system fresh and keep the 3RM testing from burning me out.
My question is…would it be better in your experience to do the 3RM in the morning and the neural charge in the evening, or vice versa?
Thanks again for the awesome info.[/quote
If those are the options, do the neural charge workout in the morning to boost performance for the 3RM test in the evening.
Or if you wanted to do something mid-morning, you could do a neural charge workout at like 9a.m followed at 11a.m by the 3RM test.
[quote]Italiano wrote:
Thibs, if training in the morning or early afternoon while doing “the pulse feast”, would there be any benefit to feast after the workout for 4 hours and then pulse later in the evening, instead of the other way around as written in the article?
Thanks[/quote]
NO! I mentioned this in the livespill. You DO NOT want to feast during the day/activity period. Feasting should be done when it’s time to unwind and relax.
I was looking at what Alex described as your newest training strategy, the one with massive pumps. I was wondering if you made any breakthrough descovery or result with it?
Is this method serving it’s purpoise to drive more blood and thus more nutrients to the muscles?
I get that it is a little metabolically costing, but how’s the CNS taking this type of work?[/quote]
I got the “pump partials” technique from John Meadows… tried it and liked the effect. I like that it will help pull nutrients to the muscles without causing excessive tearing. I think that it’s a good way to increase volume without negatively affecting your way to train.
I’m still experimenting with it, so I can’t give full recomendations, but so far I like it.
I was looking at what Alex described as your newest training strategy, the one with massive pumps. I was wondering if you made any breakthrough descovery or result with it?
Is this method serving it’s purpoise to drive more blood and thus more nutrients to the muscles?
I get that it is a little metabolically costing, but how’s the CNS taking this type of work?[/quote]
I got the “pump partials” technique from John Meadows… tried it and liked the effect. I like that it will help pull nutrients to the muscles without causing excessive tearing. I think that it’s a good way to increase volume without negatively affecting your way to train.
I’m still experimenting with it, so I can’t give full recomendations, but so far I like it.[/quote]
Another example of you not adhering to any dogma and just finding whats effective, good work thibs.
I’m just about to finish week 5 of your HP mass program and am really liking the results I’ve seen.
I had a question for you about the 3RM retest week though.
I’m planning on doing one 3RM test for each of my lifts (3 upper performance, 2 lower performance) for the first 5 days of the week and doing a neural charge workout all 7 days out of that retest week to keep my nervous system fresh and keep the 3RM testing from burning me out.
My question is…would it be better in your experience to do the 3RM in the morning and the neural charge in the evening, or vice versa?
Thanks again for the awesome info.
If those are the options, do the neural charge workout in the morning to boost performance for the 3RM test in the evening.
Or if you wanted to do something mid-morning, you could do a neural charge workout at like 9a.m followed at 11a.m by the 3RM test.
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Thanks Eazy.
I was moreso thinking of using the neural charge workouts to keep my nervous system fresh rather than to boost my 3RM test. But, I suppose that doing the neural charge each morning would still have the same effect and would also boost the later 3RM test results.
I’m just about to finish week 5 of your HP mass program and am really liking the results I’ve seen.
I had a question for you about the 3RM retest week though.
I’m planning on doing one 3RM test for each of my lifts (3 upper performance, 2 lower performance) for the first 5 days of the week and doing a neural charge workout all 7 days out of that retest week to keep my nervous system fresh and keep the 3RM testing from burning me out.
My question is…would it be better in your experience to do the 3RM in the morning and the neural charge in the evening, or vice versa?
Thanks again for the awesome info.
If those are the options, do the neural charge workout in the morning to boost performance for the 3RM test in the evening.
Or if you wanted to do something mid-morning, you could do a neural charge workout at like 9a.m followed at 11a.m by the 3RM test.
[/quote]
Thanks Eazy.
I was moreso thinking of using the neural charge workouts to keep my nervous system fresh rather than to boost my 3RM test. But, I suppose that doing the neural charge each morning would still have the same effect and would also boost the later 3RM test results.[/quote]
It will accomplish both, the thing you want to avoid is doing a neural charge workout in the evening because you will never get to sleep! So, keeping it in the morning will accomplish both the reseting of your CNS as well as boost your performance on the lift in the evening, i would still do one activation exercise before the lift in the evening though.
CT, you have mentioned that volume is rarely the problem with fit individuals, that its the volume of exercises where you reach a point where you can’t accelerate where the problem lies. Furthermore, the goal of the HPMass program is to build upon your work capacity so you can do more volume without exceeding your capacity to recover which of course is the key to growth.
The question i have is what if you wanted to add another day of either upper or lower pressing? Although the workouts aren’t exactly easy, i still feel incredible not only afterwards but the days following, as though i could do one everyday. I as of now do sled work after each training day as well as the off days but i was curious if we felt we could do more capacity wise on certain weeks is it possible? I have no intentions to Frankenstein your work (which i know you despise) i was just curious.
I was looking at what Alex described as your newest training strategy, the one with massive pumps. I was wondering if you made any breakthrough descovery or result with it?
Is this method serving it’s purpoise to drive more blood and thus more nutrients to the muscles?
I get that it is a little metabolically costing, but how’s the CNS taking this type of work?[/quote]
I got the “pump partials” technique from John Meadows… tried it and liked the effect. I like that it will help pull nutrients to the muscles without causing excessive tearing. I think that it’s a good way to increase volume without negatively affecting your way to train.
I’m still experimenting with it, so I can’t give full recomendations, but so far I like it.[/quote]
Another example of you not adhering to any dogma and just finding whats effective, good work thibs.[/quote]
I said it many times… all I want is to find out the best ways to build muscle… I don’t care who comes up with it I only want to be able to use it.