There's a Lot Wrong with Britain

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
lol @ Sifu and Cockney fighting over spelling!

That is why I love men… So much energy to disperse.

You are like energy balls ( no pun intended ).

Cockney is the uptight cracker who wants to get pissy over spelling. Which is damn insulting considering how poorly some of the other people on this board use grammer or make spelling mistakes. I would also like to point out that unlike me Cockney is using a spell checker and he’s still making mistakes!

I ignore peoples spelling mistakes all the time because I’m not uptight like that.

Please give my best to your Grammer, I hope she is not having too hard a time living in the UK without a gun.[/quote]

They are not with us anymore. One died shortly after her neighborhood went “ethnic” and one of her new neighbors broke in to steal the money out of her water heater, again, then proceeded to beat the fuck out of her. Getting my fathers gun collection out of the house sure as hell didn’t do anything to make her safer.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:

Please give my best to your Grammer, I hope she is not having too hard a time living in the UK without a gun.

They are not with us anymore. One died shortly after her neighborhood went “ethnic”

[/quote]
lol @ both of you…

I only wish my history teachers had used this style to impart knowledge.
This way I would have actually remembered the past.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:

Please give my best to your Grammer, I hope she is not having too hard a time living in the UK without a gun.

They are not with us anymore. One died shortly after her neighborhood went “ethnic”

lol @ both of you…

I only wish my history teachers had used this style to impart knowledge.
This way I would have actually remembered the past.

[/quote]

Do you mean to say that you found it boring to be indoctrinated with biased dogma?

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:

Please give my best to your Grammer, I hope she is not having too hard a time living in the UK without a gun.

They are not with us anymore. One died shortly after her neighborhood went “ethnic”

lol @ both of you…

I only wish my history teachers had used this style to impart knowledge.
This way I would have actually remembered the past.

Do you mean to say that you found it boring to be indoctrinated with biased dogma?[/quote]

That is a resounding YES.

I would rather be in ignorance than be brain washed.

We should have had two opposing teachers ( like you and Cockney are presenting the facts and bouncing off each other ) and be allowed to develop our own thinking abilities.

Cognitively speaking, conflict is the greatest nootropic.

Who doesn’t remember a good fight?

1065

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:

Please give my best to your Grammer, I hope she is not having too hard a time living in the UK without a gun.

They are not with us anymore. One died shortly after her neighborhood went “ethnic”

lol @ both of you…

I only wish my history teachers had used this style to impart knowledge.
This way I would have actually remembered the past.

Do you mean to say that you found it boring to be indoctrinated with biased dogma?

That is a resounding YES.

I would rather be in ignorance than be brain washed.

We should have had two opposing teachers ( like you and Cockney are presenting the facts and bouncing off each other ) and be allowed to develop our own thinking abilities.

Cognitively speaking, conflict is the greatest nootropic.

Who doesn’t remember a good fight?

[/quote]

Debate is a fantastic way to present information. Far too often history is presented as a series of facts written down by the dominant viewpoint at the time. I have always been a natural contrarian questioning what was taught to me (must have been a nightmare for my teachers.)

1066

Here is another example how much Britain has become a police state. The police are now arresting innocent people just so they take a DNA sample. Follow the link to read the full article.

Police are arresting innocent people in order to get their hands on as many DNA samples as possible, senior Government advisers revealed last night.

The Human Genetics Commission said the Big Brother tactic was creating a ‘spiral of suspicion’ among the public.

The panel - which contains some of Britain’s leading scientists and academics - said officers should no longer routinely take samples at the point of arresting a suspect.

They also called for all police - including support staff - to place their own DNA on the national database in a show of solidarity with a public being routinely placed under suspicion.

By law, officers are only allowed to make an arrest if they have ’ reasonable suspicion’ that a person has committed a crime.

But the HGC, which has carried out a lengthy review of the merits of the database, said evidence had emerged of police arresting people purely so they could take their DNA.

Its chairman, Professor Jonathan Montgomery, said: ‘People are arrested in order to retain DNA information that might not have been arrested in other circumstances.’

The claim, which was backed by evidence from a senior police officer, delivers a significant blow to the Government’s defence of the database - which contains more than 5.6million samples.

Campaigners have long feared officers were carrying out mass sweeps of the population to load their samples on the database, and make future crime fighting easier.

The result is one million entirely innocent people having their genetic details logged by the state.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
Here is another example how much Britain has become a police state. The police are now arresting innocent people just so they take a DNA sample. Follow the link to read the full article.

Police are arresting innocent people in order to get their hands on as many DNA samples as possible, senior Government advisers revealed last night.

The Human Genetics Commission said the Big Brother tactic was creating a ‘spiral of suspicion’ among the public.

The panel - which contains some of Britain’s leading scientists and academics - said officers should no longer routinely take samples at the point of arresting a suspect.

They also called for all police - including support staff - to place their own DNA on the national database in a show of solidarity with a public being routinely placed under suspicion.

By law, officers are only allowed to make an arrest if they have ’ reasonable suspicion’ that a person has committed a crime.

But the HGC, which has carried out a lengthy review of the merits of the database, said evidence had emerged of police arresting people purely so they could take their DNA.

Its chairman, Professor Jonathan Montgomery, said: ‘People are arrested in order to retain DNA information that might not have been arrested in other circumstances.’

The claim, which was backed by evidence from a senior police officer, delivers a significant blow to the Government’s defence of the database - which contains more than 5.6million samples.

Campaigners have long feared officers were carrying out mass sweeps of the population to load their samples on the database, and make future crime fighting easier.

The result is one million entirely innocent people having their genetic details logged by the state.

[/quote]

It’s a similar situation to DNA sweeps in the US, you can understand why the police think it is a good idea however in the US it is hard to argue that it is not in breech of the 4th amendment.

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Perhaps I can settle this controversy:

[i]
The English
(Flanders & Swan)

The rottenest bits of these islands of ours
We’ve left in the hands of three unfriendly powers
Examine the Irishman, Welshman or Scot
You’ll find he’s a stinker as likely as not

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

The Scotsman is mean as we’re all well aware
He’s boney and blotchy and covered with hair
He eats salty porridge, he works all the day
And hasn’t got bishops to show him the way

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

The Irishman now our contempt is beneath
He sleeps in his boots and he lies through his teeth
He blows up policemen or so I have heard
And blames it on Cromwell and William the Third

 The English are moral the English are good
 And clever and modest and misunderstood

The Welshman’s dishonest, he cheats when he can
He’s little and dark more like monkey than man
He works underground with a lamp on his hat
And sings far too loud, far too often and flat

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

And crossing the channel one cannot say much
For the French or the Spanish, the Danish or Dutch
The Germans are German, the Russians are red
And the Greeks and Italians eat garlic in bed

 The English are noble, the English are nice
 And worth any other at double the price

And all the world over each nation’s the same
They’ve simply no notion of playing the game
They argue with umpires, they cheer when they’ve won
And they practice before hand which spoils all the fun

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

It’s not that they’re wicked or naturally bad
It’s just that they’re foreign that makes them so mad
The English are all that a nation should be
And the pride of the English are Chipper and me

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

[/i]

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[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Perhaps I can settle this controversy:

[i]
The English
(Flanders & Swan)

The rottenest bits of these islands of ours
We’ve left in the hands of three unfriendly powers
Examine the Irishman, Welshman or Scot
You’ll find he’s a stinker as likely as not

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

The Scotsman is mean as we’re all well aware
He’s boney and blotchy and covered with hair
He eats salty porridge, he works all the day
And hasn’t got bishops to show him the way

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

The Irishman now our contempt is beneath
He sleeps in his boots and he lies through his teeth
He blows up policemen or so I have heard
And blames it on Cromwell and William the Third

 The English are moral the English are good
 And clever and modest and misunderstood

The Welshman’s dishonest, he cheats when he can
He’s little and dark more like monkey than man
He works underground with a lamp on his hat
And sings far too loud, far too often and flat

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

And crossing the channel one cannot say much
For the French or the Spanish, the Danish or Dutch
The Germans are German, the Russians are red
And the Greeks and Italians eat garlic in bed

 The English are noble, the English are nice
 And worth any other at double the price

And all the world over each nation’s the same
They’ve simply no notion of playing the game
They argue with umpires, they cheer when they’ve won
And they practice before hand which spoils all the fun

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

It’s not that they’re wicked or naturally bad
It’s just that they’re foreign that makes them so mad
The English are all that a nation should be
And the pride of the English are Chipper and me

 The English the English the English are best
 I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

[/i]
[/quote]

Flanders and Swan are awesome. My Mum used to play their records when I was a kid.

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Here is latest editorial from Daniel Hannan. It appears that even he is starting to cach on to what I have been saying about the demographic change that is happening under Labour.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100018029/labour-policies-are-driving-conservative-voters-abroad/

The number of people emigrating from Britain rose by more than 50 per cent last year to 427,000. At the same time, more than half a million people settled here. Itâ??s the latter figure that has traditionally excited the most interest, with immigration now regularly cited among votersâ?? top two or three concerns. But shouldnâ??t we worry about the fact that we are driving record numbers of our fellow-subjects into exile?

There is an exotic theory to the effect that Labour is deliberately altering our demography for electoral advantage. For what itâ??s worth, Iâ??ve always felt that we lost control of our borders through cock-up, not conspiracy: apart from anything else, very few immigrants can vote at national elections. More significant, electorally, is the economic mismanagement that is systematically ridding the United Kingdom of its most enterprising, imaginative, spirited and taxable people â?? that section of the population, in other words, least likely to vote Labour.

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An elderly ex-serviceman and widower looks to avenge his best friend’s murder by doling out his own form of justice. A grim and violent look at life on a british counsil estate and chav culture. With Micheal Caine, watch “Harry Brown” here: http://www.wisevid.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1tw820enxnwi3fa32323 or here: Loading...

…word of warning; not for the faint of hearted, graphic violence ahead…

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Here is some fresh lunacy from the Britains joke of a legal system. This man and his family were the victims of a home invasion by three armed men. Because he beat one of the men with a cricket bat he recieved 30 months in prison while the home invaders were set free.

The traditional concept of justice has become perverted in modern Britain. The law no longer acts as a bulwark to protect decent citizens.

In a degraded culture of misnamed ‘human rights’ and institutionalised leniency towards serial thugs, it is all too often the honest people who end up being punished while the criminals walk free.

The twisted values of the criminal justice system have been exposed by the case of Munir Hussain, a wealthy businessman jailed this week for tackling a dangerous burglar.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
Here is some fresh lunacy from the Britains joke of a legal system. This man and his family were the victims of a home invasion by three armed men. Because he beat one of the men with a cricket bat he recieved 30 months in prison while the home invaders were set free.

The traditional concept of justice has become perverted in modern Britain. The law no longer acts as a bulwark to protect decent citizens.

In a degraded culture of misnamed ‘human rights’ and institutionalised leniency towards serial thugs, it is all too often the honest people who end up being punished while the criminals walk free.

The twisted values of the criminal justice system have been exposed by the case of Munir Hussain, a wealthy businessman jailed this week for tackling a dangerous burglar.

[/quote]

I completely agree with you, Sifu. This case has left me completely aghast. And angrier with the system.

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Meanwhile, on the other side of the pond: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/79288022.html?page=1&c=y

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The collapse in Dubai and now Greece (Spain is next) is a big arrow headed for the heart of the British Lion. Soon, the British economy will collapse and the BNP will take over; the people will see that Labour and the Consi’s are simply a waste of skin.

Perhaps the BNP can restore some sanity to governance. And if I was a Pakistani living in Great Britain, I’d be pack-ing my bags.

"The BNP exists to give the British people that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, at national, regional and local levels.

Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them.

We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years.

We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people.

We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.

In addition, the BNPâ??s policy is to:

  • Abolish â??anti-discriminationâ?? laws which prevent people from making a free choice;

  • Abolish the â??Human Rights Actâ?? which has been imposed on this country through the European Union, and which is nothing but an excuse to prevent British laws stopping the scroungers of the world parasiting off this nation;

  • Abolish all restrictions on traditional free speech; common law provisions against incitement to violence are the only proper limits in a free society;

  • Reject ID cards, intrusive surveillance and the retention of DNA samples of the innocent;

  • Introduce an English parliament within the United Kingdom;

  • Introduce citizen-initiated referenda whose outcome is binding on Parliament.

The BNP â?? Britainâ??s most democratic party."

BNP = FTW

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…how very Christian of you HH…

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And if I was a Pakistani living in Great Britain, I’d be pack-ing my bags. [/quote]

LOL!!!

And here I had a momentary lapse of dyslexia; I read “BNP = WTF”
( which also made me laugh because I thought you were being funny )

: D

What does FTW mean?

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And if I was a Pakistani living in Great Britain, I’d be pack-ing my bags. [/quote]

LOL!!!

And here I had a momentary lapse of dyslexia; I read “BNP = WTF”
( which also made me laugh because I thought you were being funny )

: D

What does FTW mean?
[/quote]

For The Win. The major parties are now gutless administrators of a morally and financially bankrupt country. The BNP questions the source of that bankruptcy. They have identified the problems and are simply waiting while the insane policies play out. Hopefully the people will realize what they voted for in the past is insane and will vote for a return to reason and common sense.

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[quote]ephrem wrote:
…how very Christian of you HH…[/quote]

Thank you! But I’m not a Christian.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And if I was a Pakistani living in Great Britain, I’d be pack-ing my bags. [/quote]

LOL!!!

And here I had a momentary lapse of dyslexia; I read “BNP = WTF”
( which also made me laugh because I thought you were being funny )

: D

What does FTW mean?
[/quote]

…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…