There's a Lot Wrong with Britain

[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I heard to pass English Girl Scouts, you have to be willingly gangbanged by a flock of immigrant Africans and Muslim men, after which point you are awarded the ‘Queen’s Medal For Heroism In Diversity.’ Is this not true?[/quote]

I don’t think you can call them girl scouts these days as transgender individuals may be offended.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu wrote:
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Alpha F wrote:
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Sifu wrote:

www.ispell.com

It can’t help you with your appalling grammar, sentence structure or lack of ability to follow simple logic but it might just start to make your wall of text posts more readable.

Ha ha ha, very funny. I guess you don’t know this but American English is based upon Websters dictionary, which spells a number of words differently from the Oxford dictionary.

As for your arguments, several other British people have posted on this very thread that you are totally misguided in your view of firearms in the UK.

You are deluding yourself. There have been a handful of British people coment on this thread and they have not been supporting your point of view. You need to come back to planet earth and stop believing your own spin.

Ispell uses American English. And every time I spell check one of my posts I have to bounce through all the errors in yours. It is time consuming and annoying. :-)[/quote]

Oh I didon’t relise my spilling errers mite be causin yu perblems. I’ll pay moore attenshun now I knu.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Here is another typical assault from Britain. They get something like this in the papers just about every week where some innocent person is brutally assaulted and maimed or killed and their assailant gets a slap on the wrist. In this case the attacker recieved a 6 year sentence which with the automatic sentence reducton means he will only serve about three years.

You will have to follow the link to read the full story because I don’t want cock to strat crying that I posted too much information.

A mother blinded in a sickening attack after she asked a yob to stop swearing in front of her 13-year-old daughter today accused the law of failing victims.

Seamstress Julie Hobson, 38, needed surgery to remove her left eye after she was repeatedly punched by Thomas Wilkinson.

A shocked neighbour who tried to intervene later said the force of the blows seemed enough to ‘knock her head off’.

And had the yob had access to a gun he might have shot her like the thousands of people who shoot people in the US each year. Not sure what your point is.[/quote]

You are so out of touch with reality. Britain has teenagers getting guns and shooting preteens. That yobo was twenty years old, he could get gun too if that was his inclination.

If he had wanted to use a weapon he easily could have gone old school and grabbed a stick or a stone to bash that ladies head in. So as usual you are wrong. Gun control did not save the day as you are trying to suggest. Gun control just makes the world safer for assholes like the yobo. That is why those the British papers are regularly filled with stories of that type of viscious assault.

You are most certainly wrong about the US. It is not like Britain here. We do not have the same culture of yobo hotheads who go around half cocked, ready to violently fly off the handle and inflict some really viscious injuries on some stranger.

The British have far less impulse control than Americans because acting like that in the US could get you into a lot of trouble. In the US that woman could have shot that punk and claimed self defense and one of the people who tried to save her could have too. It is one of the reasons why Americans don’t violently fly off the handle at the slightest provocation like the British do.

If that happened in the US that punk could be charged with felony assault, maliscious wounding or even attempted murder where he would be looking at 10-20 years not 6 years with half off. The American authorities do not play games with violent offenders like the British do.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu wrote:
lou21 wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6534319/State-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search.html

“All telecoms companies and internet service providers will be required by law to keep a record of every customerÃ???Ã??Ã?¢??s personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the websites they have visited.”

“They will not require the permission of a judge or a magistrate to obtain the information, but simply the authorisation of a senior police officer or the equivalent of a deputy head of department at a local authority.”

Britain is a creeping police state because the British are too brain washed and lacking in the proper revolutionaary ideology to understand what is happening to them and how to proceed. All of Europe is really lacking because Europeans look to the wrong role models for ideas.

What is really sad about the British is all they need to do is look to the American founding fathers for ideas on how to free a people from the tyranny of the British government and secure a free state. The rest of Europe would do well to study the American founding fathers as well.

People like Cockney will make fun of this idea as being representative of American colonial backwardness, but Thomas Jefferson said that when the people fear the government there is tyranny, but when the government fears the people there is freedom.

In Britain people believe the proper relationship is the people should fear their government. They also believe that those who govern them are their “betters” so they put politicians up on a pedestal.

I don’t think most people in the UK fear the government I think they actually have contempt for it. [/quote]

Obviously the brilliance of Jefferson is lost on you. What is important is the government should fear the people. The British government does fear the people that is why it does whatever it feels like.

It doesn’t matter if the people have comtempt. Contempt isn’t going to change anything. What the British people need is power, which is something they don’t have. Because they gave up their power like cowardly idiots.

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And as for the telegraph piece about email, internet and phone snooping, I think the US is already ahead of the UK on that. Anyone who thinks that their phone calls, google searches, email use etc is not already being monitored and categorised is extremely naive. The amount of information that Google holds on your average American would terrify Winston Smith. [/quote]

The NSA has been monitoring everyones phone calls for years but it is widely accepted that they are circumventing US law to do so. But it is the feds, it isn’t just some local cop who can access their system. It is not quite the kind of free for all that the British have.

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I don’t agree with the legislation and would be amazed if any UK telecomms company actually has the technological integrity of networks and systems to be able to deliver on it (in the passed I worked for BT and Cable & Wireless in the UK.)[/quote]

You are rationalizing. Again! What the level of technical proficiency is does not matter. What matters is they are allowed to have the system in place and no one is protesting. All they need to do now is improve it. Which they will over time.

Thanks for sharing about your “passed”. I see the spell check you recomended is really working for you.

[quote]lou21 wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu wrote:
lou21 wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6534319/State-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search.html

“All telecoms companies and internet service providers will be required by law to keep a record of every customerÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the websites they have visited.”

“They will not require the permission of a judge or a magistrate to obtain the information, but simply the authorisation of a senior police officer or the equivalent of a deputy head of department at a local authority.”

Britain is a creeping police state because the British are too brain washed and lacking in the proper revolutionaary ideology to understand what is happening to them and how to proceed. All of Europe is really lacking because Europeans look to the wrong role models for ideas.

What is really sad about the British is all they need to do is look to the American founding fathers for ideas on how to free a people from the tyranny of the British government and secure a free state. The rest of Europe would do well to study the American founding fathers as well.

People like Cockney will make fun of this idea as being representative of American colonial backwardness, but Thomas Jefferson said that when the people fear the government there is tyranny, but when the government fears the people there is freedom.

In Britain people believe the proper relationship is the people should fear their government. They also believe that those who govern them are their “betters” so they put politicians up on a pedestal.

I don’t think most people in the UK fear the government I think they actually have contempt for it.

And as for the telegraph piece about email, internet and phone snooping, I think the US is already ahead of the UK on that. Anyone who thinks that their phone calls, google searches, email use etc is not already being monitored and categorised is extremely naive. The amount of information that Google holds on your average American would terrify Winston Smith.

I don’t agree with the legislation and would be amazed if any UK telecomms company actually has the technological integrity of networks and systems to be able to deliver on it (in the passed I worked for BT and Cable & Wireless in the UK.)

Unfortunate that we should have to rely upon the governments technical ineptness to protect from this kind of thing. [/quote]

Thinking you can rely upon governmental ineptness to save the day is a dangerous rationalization.

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I know how much google does. Have you ever tried running firefox with no script activated and google blocked? The damn google scripts come up on nearly every website. Governments should be legislating to protect peoples’ privacy not the other way around.

The gun ownership in the US won’t help them until government intrusivity becomes unbearable. It will take standard of living affecting type serious impositions upon their freedom before the average american will actually get off their ass and do something. BUT at least they have the option as a last resort. In the UK we rely entirely upon the benevolence of our government officials- we just have to hope we never elect the wrong ones- NB heavy sarcasm. There is no safty catch to British society. [/quote]

One of the primary purposes of the second amendment is it is a line in the sand that the people know the government will have to cross before it starts radically taaking away their freedom. Incidentally there is a historical context for this.

In 1775 General Gage sent the British army to seize weapons from the “colonials”. But instead of surrendering them to the British government like British pansies they chose to fight them at Lexington and Concord.

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(Sorry about my spelling I’ve no spell check on IE)[/quote]

No problemo for me. Whoeverr it might be giving Cocks spell chucker fitz… :slight_smile:

[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I heard to pass English Girl Scouts, you have to be willingly gangbanged by a flock of immigrant Africans and Muslim men, after which point you are awarded the ‘Queen’s Medal For Heroism In Diversity.’ Is this not true?[/quote]

Actually the first skill they have to master is passing out drunk in the middle of town with their skirt up over their head.

[quote]Sifu wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu wrote:
lou21 wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6534319/State-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search.html

“All telecoms companies and internet service providers will be required by law to keep a record of every customerÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the websites they have visited.”

“They will not require the permission of a judge or a magistrate to obtain the information, but simply the authorisation of a senior police officer or the equivalent of a deputy head of department at a local authority.”

Britain is a creeping police state because the British are too brain washed and lacking in the proper revolutionaary ideology to understand what is happening to them and how to proceed. All of Europe is really lacking because Europeans look to the wrong role models for ideas.

What is really sad about the British is all they need to do is look to the American founding fathers for ideas on how to free a people from the tyranny of the British government and secure a free state. The rest of Europe would do well to study the American founding fathers as well.

People like Cockney will make fun of this idea as being representative of American colonial backwardness, but Thomas Jefferson said that when the people fear the government there is tyranny, but when the government fears the people there is freedom.

In Britain people believe the proper relationship is the people should fear their government. They also believe that those who govern them are their “betters” so they put politicians up on a pedestal.

I don’t think most people in the UK fear the government I think they actually have contempt for it.

Obviously the brilliance of Jefferson is lost on you. What is important is the government should fear the people. The British government does fear the people that is why it does whatever it feels like.

It doesn’t matter if the people have comtempt. Contempt isn’t going to change anything. What the British people need is power, which is something they don’t have. Because they gave up their power like cowardly idiots.

And as for the telegraph piece about email, internet and phone snooping, I think the US is already ahead of the UK on that. Anyone who thinks that their phone calls, google searches, email use etc is not already being monitored and categorised is extremely naive. The amount of information that Google holds on your average American would terrify Winston Smith.

The NSA has been monitoring everyones phone calls for years but it is widely accepted that they are circumventing US law to do so. But it is the feds, it isn’t just some local cop who can access their system. It is not quite the kind of free for all that the British have.

I don’t agree with the legislation and would be amazed if any UK telecomms company actually has the technological integrity of networks and systems to be able to deliver on it (in the passed I worked for BT and Cable & Wireless in the UK.)

You are rationalizing. Again! What the level of technical proficiency is does not matter. What matters is they are allowed to have the system in place and no one is protesting. All they need to do now is improve it. Which they will over time.

Thanks for sharing about your “passed”. I see the spell check you recomended is really working for you. [/quote]

LOL, I knew you would be scouring my posts for typos. You might want to re-read your last post, you have managed to post the opposite to your argument in it. Oh and two ms in recommended.

By the way, if no-one is protesting, why were you able to post a British newspaper article protesting about the new law?

[quote]Sifu wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I heard to pass English Girl Scouts, you have to be willingly gangbanged by a flock of immigrant Africans and Muslim men, after which point you are awarded the ‘Queen’s Medal For Heroism In Diversity.’ Is this not true?

Actually the first skill they have to master is passing out drunk in the middle of town with their skirt up over their head. [/quote]

Well if they need lessons on that they could go to any Mexican beach resort and watch the American Springbreakers.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu wrote:
lou21 wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6534319/State-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search.html

“All telecoms companies and internet service providers will be required by law to keep a record of every customerÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the websites they have visited.”

“They will not require the permission of a judge or a magistrate to obtain the information, but simply the authorisation of a senior police officer or the equivalent of a deputy head of department at a local authority.”

Britain is a creeping police state because the British are too brain washed and lacking in the proper revolutionaary ideology to understand what is happening to them and how to proceed. All of Europe is really lacking because Europeans look to the wrong role models for ideas.

What is really sad about the British is all they need to do is look to the American founding fathers for ideas on how to free a people from the tyranny of the British government and secure a free state. The rest of Europe would do well to study the American founding fathers as well.

People like Cockney will make fun of this idea as being representative of American colonial backwardness, but Thomas Jefferson said that when the people fear the government there is tyranny, but when the government fears the people there is freedom.

In Britain people believe the proper relationship is the people should fear their government. They also believe that those who govern them are their “betters” so they put politicians up on a pedestal.

I don’t think most people in the UK fear the government I think they actually have contempt for it.

Obviously the brilliance of Jefferson is lost on you. What is important is the government should fear the people. The British government does fear the people that is why it does whatever it feels like.

It doesn’t matter if the people have comtempt. Contempt isn’t going to change anything. What the British people need is power, which is something they don’t have. Because they gave up their power like cowardly idiots.

And as for the telegraph piece about email, internet and phone snooping, I think the US is already ahead of the UK on that. Anyone who thinks that their phone calls, google searches, email use etc is not already being monitored and categorised is extremely naive. The amount of information that Google holds on your average American would terrify Winston Smith.

The NSA has been monitoring everyones phone calls for years but it is widely accepted that they are circumventing US law to do so. But it is the feds, it isn’t just some local cop who can access their system. It is not quite the kind of free for all that the British have.

I don’t agree with the legislation and would be amazed if any UK telecomms company actually has the technological integrity of networks and systems to be able to deliver on it (in the passed I worked for BT and Cable & Wireless in the UK.)

You are rationalizing. Again! What the level of technical proficiency is does not matter. What matters is they are allowed to have the system in place and no one is protesting. All they need to do now is improve it. Which they will over time.

Thanks for sharing about your “passed”. I see the spell check you recomended is really working for you.

LOL, I knew you would be scouring my posts for typos. You might want to re-read your last post, you have managed to post the opposite to your argument in it. Oh and two ms in recommended. [/quote]

Actually I was reading them in the order that you posted them. That wasn’t the first time you have mispelt something. Normally I don’t give a damn, but since you want to go down that road I figured I would point it out.

I might not have been clear enough but I didn’t contradict myself. I’m not happy about the amount of government snooping that goes on in the US, but it still isn’t the kind of free for all that Britain has. The information that comes out of the NSA deal with the Canadian government to spy on Americans isn’t something that FBI or even the local county council can access.

It’s not like Britain where the city councils are using anti terrorism laws to snoop on how much people put in their garbage cans. Google by the way isn’t a government organisation.

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By the way, if no-one is protesting, why were you able to post a British newspaper article protesting about the new law? [/quote]

There is a world of difference between a newspaper article that is immediately forgotten and people taking to the streets in droves oand storming parliament to fight with the men in tights like they did over fox hunting. I think the comparison between the reaction to those two events shows just how stupid the British are.

Sifu, I was referring to this:

I know everyone makes the odd typo or spelling mistake but your posts seem to contain more than most.

I know Google is a private company however I am amazed how comfortable people are with using their OS and browser given the information that is stored on them. I am pretty sure the government can subpoena this if they want to.

lol @ Sifu and Cockney fighting over spelling!

That is why I love men… So much energy to disperse.

You are like energy balls ( no pun intended ).

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu, I was referring to this:

Obviously the brilliance of Jefferson is lost on you. What is important is the government should fear the people. The British government does fear the people that is why it does whatever it feels like.

I know everyone makes the odd typo or spelling mistake but your posts seem to contain more than most.

I know Google is a private company however I am amazed how comfortable people are with using their OS and browser given the information that is stored on them. I am pretty sure the government can subpoena this if they want to.[/quote]

Then what do you suggest as a browsing option? Serious question. Sorry for the hijack.

[quote]Gregus wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu, I was referring to this:

Obviously the brilliance of Jefferson is lost on you. What is important is the government should fear the people. The British government does fear the people that is why it does whatever it feels like.

I know everyone makes the odd typo or spelling mistake but your posts seem to contain more than most.

I know Google is a private company however I am amazed how comfortable people are with using their OS and browser given the information that is stored on them. I am pretty sure the government can subpoena this if they want to.

Then what do you suggest as a browsing option? Serious question. Sorry for the hijack. [/quote]

Actually I use Google as a search option, there are a number of other aggregators that are interesting however Google normally gets me what I want quicker. There are ways of anonymizing what you search through Google but I can’t be arsed with that nothing I am searching on google is that incriminating (apart from the midget goat porn) I am however not in a hurry to switch over to them as a my OS and Browser provider.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
lol @ Sifu and Cockney fighting over spelling!

That is why I love men… So much energy to disperse.

You are like energy balls ( no pun intended ).

[/quote]

LOL, I was just trying to be helpful with the ispell option. A couple of times I have totally misunderstood one of his posts because of the typos.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu, I was referring to this:

Obviously the brilliance of Jefferson is lost on you. What is important is the government should fear the people. The British government does[quote]NOT[/quote]fear the people that is why it does whatever it feels like.

I know everyone makes the odd typo or spelling mistake but your posts seem to contain more than most.

I know Google is a private company however I am amazed how comfortable people are with using their OS and browser given the information that is stored on them. I am pretty sure the government can subpoena this if they want to. [/quote]

Oh boo hoo. So I forgot the word not. I fixed it for you.

We are developing powerful technologies that can give the government unprecedented abilities to monitor us. As bad as it is getting here in the US it is nowhere as bad as Britain.

[quote]Sifu wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Sifu, I was referring to this:

Obviously the brilliance of Jefferson is lost on you. What is important is the government should fear the people. The British government doesNOTfear the people that is why it does whatever it feels like.

I know everyone makes the odd typo or spelling mistake but your posts seem to contain more than most.

I know Google is a private company however I am amazed how comfortable people are with using their OS and browser given the information that is stored on them. I am pretty sure the government can subpoena this if they want to.

Oh boo hoo. So I forgot the word not. I fixed it for you.

We are developing powerful technologies that can give the government unprecedented abilities to monitor us. As bad as it is getting here in the US it is nowhere as bad as Britain. [/quote]

Its just as bad and you know it.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
lol @ Sifu and Cockney fighting over spelling!

That is why I love men… So much energy to disperse.

You are like energy balls ( no pun intended ).

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Cockney is the uptight cracker who wants to get pissy over spelling. Which is damn insulting considering how poorly some of the other people on this board use grammer or make spelling mistakes. I would also like to point out that unlike me Cockney is using a spell checker and he’s still making mistakes!

I ignore peoples spelling mistakes all the time because I’m not uptight like that.

http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/news/Ex-soldier-faces-jail-handing-gun/article-1509082-detail/article.html

[quote]Sifu wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
lol @ Sifu and Cockney fighting over spelling!

That is why I love men… So much energy to disperse.

You are like energy balls ( no pun intended ).

Cockney is the uptight cracker who wants to get pissy over spelling. Which is damn insulting considering how poorly some of the other people on this board use grammer or make spelling mistakes. I would also like to point out that unlike me Cockney is using a spell checker and he’s still making mistakes!

I ignore peoples spelling mistakes all the time because I’m not uptight like that. [/quote]

Please give my best to your Grammer, I hope she is not having too hard a time living in the UK without a gun.

[quote]tassie wrote:
http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/news/Ex-soldier-faces-jail-handing-gun/article-1509082-detail/article.html[/quote]

This is a good example of irrational fear run amock. The British have been brain washed and whipped into a frenzy of fear and paranoia over guns to the point that they can’t can’t think logically or use common sense anymore.

What makes the British so truly pathetic is there are all manner of objects in our environment that can be used as deadly weapons that they don’t even give a second thought to. But merely mention the word gun and they quiver in fear.