There's a Lot Wrong with Britain

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:
…how very Christian of you HH…[/quote]

Thank you! But I’m not a Christian.
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…you’re a Hindu after all?

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

What does FTW mean?
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For The Win. The major parties are now gutless administrators of a morally and financially bankrupt country. The BNP questions the source of that bankruptcy. They have identified the problems and are simply waiting while the insane policies play out. Hopefully the people will realize what they voted for in the past is insane and will vote for a return to reason and common sense.
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Thanks. However, in this instance I do no think BNP = For The Win but For The War, since if they do get elected racial issues will be sure to arise.
Also, do you not consider that what politicians say before they get elected does not necessarily translate after they get elected: Did Obama not become an epic fail even to those who put their hopes on him?

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

What does FTW mean?
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…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
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Thank you FTI ( For The Info ).
Do you not think the current party ( government ) is fascist?
Either way, are we not continuously under sold to a form of oppression?

I mean, consider this guy sentenced to prison for defending his family. Clearly, unless the police can be with us 24/7 a la Tony Blair security, they cannot and do not have a right to punish us for defending ourselves. They are not being authoritative. They are being authoritarian.
That is fascism.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

What does FTW mean?
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…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
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Thank you FTI ( For The Info ).
Do you not think the current party ( government ) is fascist?
Either way, are we not continuously under sold to a form of oppression?

I mean, consider this guy sentenced to prison for defending his family. Clearly, unless the police can be with us 24/7 a la Tony Blair security, they cannot and do not have a right to punish us for defending ourselves. They are not being authoritative. They are being authoritarian.
That is fascism.

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…that may very well be how it is in the UK at the moment, but how are you going to change that by voting white supremacists in office?

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And if I was a Pakistani living in Great Britain, I’d be pack-ing my bags. [/quote]

LOL!!!

And here I had a momentary lapse of dyslexia; I read “BNP = WTF”
( which also made me laugh because I thought you were being funny )

: D

What does FTW mean?
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…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
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Did you read their platform, which I posted? Yeah, that sounds like fascism…yeah…

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

What does FTW mean?
[/quote]

…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
[/quote]

Thank you FTI ( For The Info ).
Do you not think the current party ( government ) is fascist?
Either way, are we not continuously under sold to a form of oppression?

I mean, consider this guy sentenced to prison for defending his family. Clearly, unless the police can be with us 24/7 a la Tony Blair security, they cannot and do not have a right to punish us for defending ourselves. They are not being authoritative. They are being authoritarian.
That is fascism.

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…that may very well be how it is in the UK at the moment, but how are you going to change that by voting white supremacists in office?
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People from 3rd world countries come to leech off of British taxpayers. Those in power encourage this, to garner votes. I suggest that THEY are the racists.

Wanting to maintain your country against an onslaught like Britain is enduring is not racism. How is ‘Britain for the British’ racist?

If defending your country, its values, its institutions, against those who would destroy those things makes one a racist, then indeed I am a racist.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

What does FTW mean?
[/quote]

…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
[/quote]

Thank you FTI ( For The Info ).
Do you not think the current party ( government ) is fascist?
Either way, are we not continuously under sold to a form of oppression?

I mean, consider this guy sentenced to prison for defending his family. Clearly, unless the police can be with us 24/7 a la Tony Blair security, they cannot and do not have a right to punish us for defending ourselves. They are not being authoritative. They are being authoritarian.
That is fascism.

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…that may very well be how it is in the UK at the moment, but how are you going to change that by voting white supremacists in office?
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It doesn’t. It doesn’t change anything except the kind of sorrow the next party will bring.
That was my only point. I read and I read with interest on this forum and I am impressed with the passion and the knowledge and the intelligence with which issues are discussed. However, I fail again and again to see something new. Something that has the breath of fresh air that we experience when change in the climate is about to occur.
Think about the seasons: We know when the weather is about to change.
The political climate has been such that I cannot say I know something is about to change.

It has been one long history of oppression by supremacy.

This climate, in the history on mankind, has never changed.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And if I was a Pakistani living in Great Britain, I’d be pack-ing my bags. [/quote]

LOL!!!

And here I had a momentary lapse of dyslexia; I read “BNP = WTF”
( which also made me laugh because I thought you were being funny )

: D

What does FTW mean?
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…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
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No they’re not.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

What does FTW mean?
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For The Win. The major parties are now gutless administrators of a morally and financially bankrupt country. The BNP questions the source of that bankruptcy. They have identified the problems and are simply waiting while the insane policies play out. Hopefully the people will realize what they voted for in the past is insane and will vote for a return to reason and common sense.
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Thanks. However, in this instance I do no think BNP = For The Win but For The War, since if they do get elected racial issues will be sure to arise.
Also, do you not consider that what politicians say before they get elected does not necessarily translate after they get elected: Did Obama not become an epic fail even to those who put their hopes on him?
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I’m not certain that the BNP will take enough seats in Westminster to form a government in this upcoming election though I do think they will take a few seats. I think if that does happen there will be a lessening of racial tensions because people will feel that they finally have a way to express legitimate concerns about what is happening to their country.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

What does FTW mean?
[/quote]

…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
[/quote]

Thank you FTI ( For The Info ).
Do you not think the current party ( government ) is fascist?
Either way, are we not continuously under sold to a form of oppression?

I mean, consider this guy sentenced to prison for defending his family. Clearly, unless the police can be with us 24/7 a la Tony Blair security, they cannot and do not have a right to punish us for defending ourselves. They are not being authoritative. They are being authoritarian.
That is fascism.

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…that may very well be how it is in the UK at the moment, but how are you going to change that by voting white supremacists in office?
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Because the status quo cannot be changed by voting for more of the same. The present Labour government is not color blind. They don’t treat all people equally. Their policy is to use race for political gain. ie The so-called equality act that was just passed does not say that all are to be treated equally, it says that it is okay for employers to engage in hiring practices that discriminate against white males. So spare us your hypocritical pretentiousness.

Where do you expect people to turn to when the Labour government is run by self loathing white people who hate their own race?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And if I was a Pakistani living in Great Britain, I’d be pack-ing my bags. [/quote]

LOL!!!

And here I had a momentary lapse of dyslexia; I read “BNP = WTF”
( which also made me laugh because I thought you were being funny )

: D

What does FTW mean?
[/quote]

…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
[/quote]

Did you read their platform, which I posted? Yeah, that sounds like fascism…yeah…
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He couldn;t even get his facts straight on the BNP membership policy. They are not a whites only party.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

What does FTW mean?
[/quote]

…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
[/quote]

Thank you FTI ( For The Info ).
Do you not think the current party ( government ) is fascist?
Either way, are we not continuously under sold to a form of oppression?

I mean, consider this guy sentenced to prison for defending his family. Clearly, unless the police can be with us 24/7 a la Tony Blair security, they cannot and do not have a right to punish us for defending ourselves. They are not being authoritative. They are being authoritarian.
That is fascism.

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…that may very well be how it is in the UK at the moment, but how are you going to change that by voting white supremacists in office?
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People from 3rd world countries come to leech off of British taxpayers. Those in power encourage this, to garner votes. I suggest that THEY are the racists. [/quote]

Not all the immigrants are leeches, there are also those who have job skills and a good work ethic and they are putting alot of people out of work. They are serving a purpose for those in power too. To be an adult who has the a job is in itself a form of empowerment because you are self reliant. When people are pushed out of employment by cheap imported labour and go on the dole they lose that empowerment, that independence. They are now dependent upon the state.

If you are a person who has been dependent upon the state your entire life and never held a job it is like you are an invalid. You are not a person who could just pack up, move to another country and make a new life for yourself. You are totally at the mercy of the state.

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Wanting to maintain your country against an onslaught like Britain is enduring is not racism. How is ‘Britain for the British’ racist? [/quote]

Contrary to what the liberals constantly tell the immigrants the majority of British are not racist and find racism deplorable. Because of that the liberals use accusations of racism as a way to bully people into silence. They also use it as a way to stir up racial strife so they can use it for their own selfish ends.

Labour engages in identity politics all the time. Then when someone speaks out against what they are doing they call them a racist. What has happened is they have devalued what it is to be a racist, so the term is losing it’s meaning and it’s significance.

[quote]Sifu wrote:
They are not a whites only party. [/quote]

So where is that coming from? Is it all spin from Bliars minions?
( Did you see him on the news going in for interrogation on the Iraqi inquiry? I want to see what the British people are going to do about that, too )

[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

People from 3rd world countries come to leech off of British taxpayers. Those in power encourage this, to garner votes. I suggest that THEY are the racists. [/quote]

Not all the immigrants are leeches, [/quote]

And this is where I see the trouble arising, in the example above. Ignorant and hateful comments will surface from followers of the BNP, though they themselves may not promote hatred.
I won’t even go into the whole third world argument again where British society would simple not be without the riches they leeched off of third world countries. As we speak the British museum has been asked to return the Rosetta Stone to Egypt, as it is their National treasure and the British refuse saying it is their MISSION to enlighten the world. Always a noble excuse to justify their thuggish acts.

As you can see from my tone and reply this is going to create a lot of contention.
I still maintain that what goes around comes around. To dominator will become the dominated.
BNP may raise and become a majority and the minority will eventually form and raise and push them out. We are nothing but a “civilised” animal kingdom.

[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And if I was a Pakistani living in Great Britain, I’d be pack-ing my bags. [/quote]

LOL!!!

And here I had a momentary lapse of dyslexia; I read “BNP = WTF”
( which also made me laugh because I thought you were being funny )

: D

What does FTW mean?
[/quote]

…FTW means For The Win. Iow, he’s supporting a fascist party; whites only and all that…
[/quote]

Did you read their platform, which I posted? Yeah, that sounds like fascism…yeah…
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He couldn;t even get his facts straight on the BNP membership policy. They are not a whites only party. [/quote]

Only because legally they can’t be.

[quote]Sifu wrote:
Here is some fresh lunacy from the Britains joke of a legal system. This man and his family were the victims of a home invasion by three armed men. Because he beat one of the men with a cricket bat he recieved 30 months in prison while the home invaders were set free.

The traditional concept of justice has become perverted in modern Britain. The law no longer acts as a bulwark to protect decent citizens.

In a degraded culture of misnamed ‘human rights’ and institutionalised leniency towards serial thugs, it is all too often the honest people who end up being punished while the criminals walk free.

The twisted values of the criminal justice system have been exposed by the case of Munir Hussain, a wealthy businessman jailed this week for tackling a dangerous burglar.

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They were attacked, they successfully defended themselves at that point if they had stopped, no issue. Problem is that once the self defence situation ended, they chased after one of the guys, caught him then beat him senseless whilst he was defenceless on the ground. Regardless of the fact that this guy had attacked the men first, their actions constitute assault and they were correctly charged and sentenced.

You cannot have people in a civilised society extracting their own justice and it is typical of the Daily Heil to twist it around using inflammatory language like ‘For his vigorous action in defending his family and his home against a brutal assailant, he was given a prison sentence of 30 months’

This was not defending, this was attacking.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Sifu wrote:
They are not a whites only party. [/quote]

So where is that coming from? Is it all spin from Bliars minions?
( Did you see him on the news going in for interrogation on the Iraqi inquiry? I want to see what the British people are going to do about that, too )
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…ofcourse i never said that the BNP was a whites only party. They are required by law, in order to play along with the big guys, to admit everybody. Don’t fall for the smoke screen Sifu is trying to put up. The BNP is up there with France’s Le Pen en Wilders…

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Sifu wrote:
They are not a whites only party. [/quote]

So where is that coming from? Is it all spin from Bliars minions?
( Did you see him on the news going in for interrogation on the Iraqi inquiry? I want to see what the British people are going to do about that, too )
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they used to be an whites-only party but the courts forced them to change cos of human rights and race laws. this was pretty recent.

oh, and anybody who thinks that they arent a racist party and that they should have seats in the commons can suck a donkey dick.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

You cannot have people in a civilised society extracting their own justice [/quote]

CIVILISED?!?
You mean sugar coated with “civility”, right? How many truly authentic people who do not wear “civilised” masks do you know in England, or Brazil or Mexico for that matter - if you are abiding in a genuine human society please point me towards it because my heart is yearning for that. [quote]

This was not defending, this was attacking.[/quote]

Attack is a form of defence.
What guarantee does a man/woman has that said intruder ins’t a sociopath who is coming back for revenge? There are certain boundaries that ARE NOT OK to be crossed. And self preservation DICTATES you make sure the transgressor knows not to cross that line again.
When someone shows no regard for human life that means they accept their own life may be eliminated. You don’t risk taking something you are not prepared to lose yourself.

I am not being vengeful. This is a basic principle that operates from gambling to murdering.
You got to be prepared to lose money if you want a shot a winning money.
And you got to be prepared to lose your life if you are going to take life.

War anyone? Is that civilised killing just because you vote for it in the comfort and distance of your own home? What makes the soldier a hero because he defended your country and that man a criminal because he defended his home and quite possible the honour of his wife.

If a man breaks into my home do I need to prove to my “civilised” society he wasn’t going to rape me or come back to do so? Do I appear more “civilised” to you as a victim of rape and the life long psychological trauma I , notice the detail I, have to live with than if I cut off his balls? Does that make you feel better about me or would it fill you with horror if I, out of protecting myself from this intrusion of HORROR in my life, did all I could to defend myself? Not every one is trained in Ninja moves thus knowing exactly where to strike in order to simply “disable” your “opponent” in a “clean” and “acceptable”, “civilised” manner. Wouldn’t you agree?

The police cannot be there 24/7 to protect me. My experience with minor crimes has been exactly a CIVILISED LETTER saying: " We are terrible sorry you have been a victim of crime. We at the Metropolitan Police are doing everything in our power to offer support to the victims in your area by providing the following victim support groups…"

I am not a victim.

I found the people who crossed me and showed them fear does not live here so don’t even dare because Dare is my second name.

We don’t need guns we need courage.
In a society of rats be a lion.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Sifu wrote:
They are not a whites only party. [/quote]

So where is that coming from? Is it all spin from Bliars minions?
( Did you see him on the news going in for interrogation on the Iraqi inquiry? I want to see what the British people are going to do about that, too )
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…ofcourse i never said that the BNP was a whites only party. They are required by law, in order to play along with the big guys, to admit everybody. Don’t fall for the smoke screen Sifu is trying to put up. The BNP is up there with France’s Le Pen en Wilders…[/quote]

It will all come out in the wash…color fast ( I never know what that means in the washing machine cycle )