[quote]Sifu wrote:
I don’t know if you noticed but PWI has been a bit of a boys club.[/quote] Yes, I try not to post and just follow silently. Every one seems very jumpy here and it could be called Politics War and Issues, : D [quote]
I am used to only arguing with other guys in here and boy talk can be blunt, rude and in your face without us getting offended by it.
The impression I got from your posts is your point of view is that in the past the British have done bad things that have resulted in other people getting screwed over, so now it is some kind of just come uppance that their descendants should allow suffer a similar fate. [/quote] I admit I wrote in that style on purpose, to test the English who are posting here. I noticed the British get very defensive and arrogant when it is pointed out to them that they too, have crossed boundaries and been places and taken spoil. I did not mean to imply they now deserve what they are getting. The reason the British have allowed these people in is somewhat motivated by guilt and intrinsic laws of nature show that what we reap what we sow.
I was speaking of a natural cycle. Though some of you may not believe it.
If I personally went to meet your family and behaved in a certain way, if one day your children came to my home and behaved in a similar way I would remember I procured this interaction and set the ball in motion.[quote]
You also came across as one of those people who likes to use guilt trips and I didn’t realize you’re a woman so I attacked. [/quote] It’s ok. And that further illustrates my experiment with posting that bluntly and my point about guilt ( I am not speaking about you personally, just in general ). I have observed that the British are secretly ( and sometimes not so secretly ) guilt ridden when no blame was implied just fact. It is evident in many of their actions and even figure of speech. The British pride and arrogance when they are no longer the Superpower ( in my personal view, the only people who have the right to brag are the current nation who holds this position, like the Romans once did ) and subsequent resentment over losing it to the Americans, is another indication of suppressed guilt. And shame for a perceived failure.
I am not stating a fact. This is just a personal observation. I am more interested in the psychology of politics rather than the politics themselves. That also may explain why I came across to you as ‘using guilt’ whereas that never crossed my mind and I was merely ‘testing’ and pushing for a strong response, which I did get.
I can however be utterly blunt in my expressions and have been beaten up for having a big mouth, : D![quote]
Borders are boundaries. They are the boundaries of an entire group of people that if properly used can allow that group to have safe and healthy interactions with other groups of people. Sometimes the best way to have a good relationship with others is to keep them at a distance.[/quote]
Healthy boundaries are important and different from a ‘siege mentality’. The mind set or attitude of “Them x Us” is just as dangerous as the people who have no respect for another’s boundaries.
When I read 300andabove link about the BNP I could see clearly how that siege mentality can be bred and developed even if their motivation is self-preservation.
Also, on borders being boundaries, the only reason why I jumped into this thread was because I thought Cockney’s reply to 300’s post about the English being ruled by a Scott who reports to a family of Germans was absolutely brilliant. As much as we would like to believe that this is ‘my’ country and this is ‘your’ country, if someone else powerful enough decides to take over, a thousand years from now what was known as mine can and will be known as yours.
Neither you nor I used our free will to chose to be born in Britain or in Brazil. It was by sheer luck of the draw I was born to a certain woman on a Brazilian soil.
If I should decide today, to go somewhere else and breed like rabbits and become powerful enough to stick a flag on that soil of the earth, my inheritance will give rise to a new nation.
What is the nucleus of society?
Why, within my own family there were relatives I could not stand and found destructive.
You can look at this situation also from a microscopic view.
What were the effects of the two world wars on the generations of British families?
How united and warm is the nucleus of the British family?
There is no need to reply to this post. I am going back to just appreciating you, guys discussing Labour and BNP. I had a sleepless night last night and this is where the action was so I made an appearance when I had no intention to.