There's a Half Nekkid Girl in my Bed

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]WP wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
So I was just hanging out with Bujo tonight and I just drove home to my new place (which happens to be located strategically near FIVE bars within walking distance and two streets over from University of Lafayette - PRIME real estate) and I picked up a chick outside one of the bars and brought her home. But she doesn’t QUITE want to take the panties off, so I’m employing a super dooper evil strategy called freezing her out. I’ve got her engine going and she’s THOROUGHLY warmed up but she doesn’t want to seem like a slut. So I got up off the bed and decided to let all my T-Mag bros 'n hoes (y’all know who you are!) that I’m about to have sex. This shit works like a charm - I’ve been on my computer for less than five minutes and she’s already telling me to get my ass over there. So gentlemen, duty calls (and by duty I mean… What the fuck was her name again?) Now is not an appropriate time to ask, but I’ll fill in that small detail tomorrow.

BYE GAIS![/quote]

Dude, explain this strategy please.
[/quote]

Sure, it’s a fairly simple strategy really. First we have to understand something about women. You know that feeling that you get when you go to approach a woman for the first time? You get a thousand thoughts running through your head, "what if she has a boyfriend? what if she rejects me? is she going to embarrass me? what will other people think if she shoots me down? etc… All KINDS of shit comes up for all of us at the moment of approach. From virgins to guys with a triple digit number, we ALL experience approach anxiety in one form or another.

Women feel the SAME kind of anxiety right before they sleep with someone for the first time (assuming they are SOBER and shame on you if you take advantage of a woman who isn’t!) They have all kinds of vulnerabilities and emotions come up for them, "am I going to get pregnant? is he going to use a condom? will I catch an STD? is he going to respect me or just kick me out? is he going to tell all my friends I’m a slut? what if my parents find out? etc… All kinds of shit, some logical, some not. This is called Last Minute Resistance.

So when you have a girl in your room and you’re making out with her, a solid escalation is two steps forward, one step back. Women aren’t like light switches, you can’t just turn them on immediately, you have to gradually warm them up - kinda like the boiling the frog analogy, if you gradually increase the heat the frog will allow itself to be boiled, whereas if you drop a frog into boiling water, it will jump right out. Same thing - two steps forward, one step back is a time tested and proven means of escalation.

But you will inevitably reach a point (or several points, generally at the removal of clothing) where she feels rushed, overwhelmed, or that things are going too fast, so she stops you. At this point, MANY men resort to trying to convince her logically that it’s OK, or even begging, or getting upset or even angry or other weak minded strategies that are bound to kill any attraction.

Freezing her out is simply where you just STOP making out with her. Get up and do something else. I got up and logged into T-Nation and started this thread. You need to make sure that you DON’T come across as being upset, bitter or petulant in any way - you are simply unaffected. This does TWO things: it gives her time to clear her head of all those negative fears and emotions and it shows you that you are a man who has control. If she challenges your behavior, simple tell her in a neutral tone that your “arousal circuitry” is either ON or OFF - you don’t like to just fool around half way, so you’d just as soon go to bed soon, “don’t worry, we can snuggle”. Agree with her that you are probably “moving things too fast”. This will completely disarm her, cuz you are using HER arguments against her (but you’ve already made her horny so she is intellectually at odds with what she’s feeling emotionally).

So guess what? The sky is blue, water is wet and women are emotional creatures. You set up the dynamic so that she is left with really no choice BUT to sleep with you - to satisfy her own emotional needs.

Assuming she isn’t on her period or has some other compelling reason NOT to take her panties off, this works just about every fucking time.
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that’s pickup knowledge 101, You use lovesystems or Adam Lyons or something?

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you need to find jesus ac

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pics or it didn’t happen

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I’m learning so much from this thread. Srs.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Sure, it’s a fairly simple strategy really. First we have to understand something about women…
[/quote]

Angry Chicken wins the Internehtz with this post.

Seriously, this is golden advice.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I have a half alive chick in my basement

[/quote]

Not surprised.

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[quote]theuofh wrote:

I found out the next morning that she was up all night crying and even called her mom. [/quote]

LOL HAHAHA

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This seems rather **** like…

**** representing an unnamed forum that no longer exists.

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[quote]kakno wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Freezing her out is simply where you just STOP making out with her. Get up and do something else.
[/quote]
What do you say at this point?

Very well thought out strategy btw.[/quote]

I say as LITTLE as possible. An amused smile and a look that says, “silly little girl, you just don’t get it do you?” will get you MUCH further than any explanation. Words are like a poker hand - the more you say, the more cards you are turning around so she can see. It’s much better to keep her guessing and to keep your answers as ambiguous (or “mysterious” if you will excuse the cliche) as possible. Women respond more on a deeper, fundamental level to men of ACTION. Most of the men here or T-Nation would be best served using this strategy because we have (or SHOULD have, or at least working toward) a strong physical presence. I’m weighing in at around 230. Just about anything over 200 lbs (or the APPEARANCE of being jacked) flips a switch in her mind which automatically puts you in a protector/provider status. Being able to handle yourself and sub-communicating that is a huge turn on for attractive women.

Having said that, I know several men who use words and stories to build attraction and while they are very successful, they spend A LOT of effort building that attraction. To me, investing a lot of effort is counter productive to my cause and lowers one’s value/status. But if what you’re doing WORKS, then by all means - there’s more than one way to skin a cat. And we all need SOMETHING to say… But as a general rule of thumb, I ask questions and shut up and listen and let my BODY LANGUAGE do the talking which allows HER imagination build me up and put me in the “spot” in her mind where she builds the image of someone who she’d be inclined to fuck. The more I open my mouth, the more I DEFINE MYSELF and the less her imagination/emotion has anything to say about it.

Her emotions don’t give a fuck about your life story, your job or how much money you make, yet that’s what ‘most’ guys lead with. Her emotions want a knight or a villain or a mysterious stranger who’s both mysterious AND a little dangerous… Her emotions want excitement. Her emotions want to be swept off her feet and break away from reality so that she can LIVE one of the fantasies that she’s been reading about and dreaming about her whole life. Her emotions want to feel desired and fucked well until she taps out and then fucked some more.

The more you communicate with her on an EMOTIONAL level and less on an INTELLECTUAL level the better off you are and the quicker the panties will come off. To qualify that, I am in no way encouraging anyone to LIE. Just don’t give her exactly what she “says” she wants when she asks for it. Remember in the movie the 40 year old virgin when he’s in the book store and he just flips the questions the girl is asking right around on her? Same principle. Be playful, mysterious and imply that you have a dark side. At least that shit works for me…

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[quote]WP wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]WP wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
So I was just hanging out with Bujo tonight and I just drove home to my new place (which happens to be located strategically near FIVE bars within walking distance and two streets over from University of Lafayette - PRIME real estate) and I picked up a chick outside one of the bars and brought her home. But she doesn’t QUITE want to take the panties off, so I’m employing a super dooper evil strategy called freezing her out. I’ve got her engine going and she’s THOROUGHLY warmed up but she doesn’t want to seem like a slut. So I got up off the bed and decided to let all my T-Mag bros 'n hoes (y’all know who you are!) that I’m about to have sex. This shit works like a charm - I’ve been on my computer for less than five minutes and she’s already telling me to get my ass over there. So gentlemen, duty calls (and by duty I mean… What the fuck was her name again?) Now is not an appropriate time to ask, but I’ll fill in that small detail tomorrow.

BYE GAIS![/quote]

Dude, explain this strategy please.
[/quote]

Sure, it’s a fairly simple strategy really. First we have to understand something about women. You know that feeling that you get when you go to approach a woman for the first time? You get a thousand thoughts running through your head, "what if she has a boyfriend? what if she rejects me? is she going to embarrass me? what will other people think if she shoots me down? etc… All KINDS of shit comes up for all of us at the moment of approach. From virgins to guys with a triple digit number, we ALL experience approach anxiety in one form or another.

Women feel the SAME kind of anxiety right before they sleep with someone for the first time (assuming they are SOBER and shame on you if you take advantage of a woman who isn’t!) They have all kinds of vulnerabilities and emotions come up for them, "am I going to get pregnant? is he going to use a condom? will I catch an STD? is he going to respect me or just kick me out? is he going to tell all my friends I’m a slut? what if my parents find out? etc… All kinds of shit, some logical, some not. This is called Last Minute Resistance.

So when you have a girl in your room and you’re making out with her, a solid escalation is two steps forward, one step back. Women aren’t like light switches, you can’t just turn them on immediately, you have to gradually warm them up - kinda like the boiling the frog analogy, if you gradually increase the heat the frog will allow itself to be boiled, whereas if you drop a frog into boiling water, it will jump right out. Same thing - two steps forward, one step back is a time tested and proven means of escalation.

But you will inevitably reach a point (or several points, generally at the removal of clothing) where she feels rushed, overwhelmed, or that things are going too fast, so she stops you. At this point, MANY men resort to trying to convince her logically that it’s OK, or even begging, or getting upset or even angry or other weak minded strategies that are bound to kill any attraction.

Freezing her out is simply where you just STOP making out with her. Get up and do something else. I got up and logged into T-Nation and started this thread. You need to make sure that you DON’T come across as being upset, bitter or petulant in any way - you are simply unaffected. This does TWO things: it gives her time to clear her head of all those negative fears and emotions and it shows you that you are a man who has control. If she challenges your behavior, simple tell her in a neutral tone that your “arousal circuitry” is either ON or OFF - you don’t like to just fool around half way, so you’d just as soon go to bed soon, “don’t worry, we can snuggle”. Agree with her that you are probably “moving things too fast”. This will completely disarm her, cuz you are using HER arguments against her (but you’ve already made her horny so she is intellectually at odds with what she’s feeling emotionally).

So guess what? The sky is blue, water is wet and women are emotional creatures. You set up the dynamic so that she is left with really no choice BUT to sleep with you - to satisfy her own emotional needs.

Assuming she isn’t on her period or has some other compelling reason NOT to take her panties off, this works just about every fucking time.
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So what about in the scenario that you’re in a hotel room or in HER bedroom? Rolling over and going to sleep isn’t an option since I might actually fall asleep!

edit: roll over, grab my phone and start playing with it (obviously pretending since you’d have little to do at 4pm in the morning after being in a nightclub, unless you have another potential on the cards)?[/quote]

Don’t just roll over and go to sleep or play with your phone - physically GET UP and deny her proximity. That is key. Remember: you are the sun and she want’s your warmth… Take it away and she’ll be inclined to move things forward to get it back.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]WP wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
So I was just hanging out with Bujo tonight and I just drove home to my new place (which happens to be located strategically near FIVE bars within walking distance and two streets over from University of Lafayette - PRIME real estate) and I picked up a chick outside one of the bars and brought her home. But she doesn’t QUITE want to take the panties off, so I’m employing a super dooper evil strategy called freezing her out. I’ve got her engine going and she’s THOROUGHLY warmed up but she doesn’t want to seem like a slut. So I got up off the bed and decided to let all my T-Mag bros 'n hoes (y’all know who you are!) that I’m about to have sex. This shit works like a charm - I’ve been on my computer for less than five minutes and she’s already telling me to get my ass over there. So gentlemen, duty calls (and by duty I mean… What the fuck was her name again?) Now is not an appropriate time to ask, but I’ll fill in that small detail tomorrow.

BYE GAIS![/quote]

Dude, explain this strategy please.
[/quote]

Sure, it’s a fairly simple strategy really. First we have to understand something about women. You know that feeling that you get when you go to approach a woman for the first time? You get a thousand thoughts running through your head, "what if she has a boyfriend? what if she rejects me? is she going to embarrass me? what will other people think if she shoots me down? etc… All KINDS of shit comes up for all of us at the moment of approach. From virgins to guys with a triple digit number, we ALL experience approach anxiety in one form or another.

Women feel the SAME kind of anxiety right before they sleep with someone for the first time (assuming they are SOBER and shame on you if you take advantage of a woman who isn’t!) They have all kinds of vulnerabilities and emotions come up for them, "am I going to get pregnant? is he going to use a condom? will I catch an STD? is he going to respect me or just kick me out? is he going to tell all my friends I’m a slut? what if my parents find out? etc… All kinds of shit, some logical, some not. This is called Last Minute Resistance.

So when you have a girl in your room and you’re making out with her, a solid escalation is two steps forward, one step back. Women aren’t like light switches, you can’t just turn them on immediately, you have to gradually warm them up - kinda like the boiling the frog analogy, if you gradually increase the heat the frog will allow itself to be boiled, whereas if you drop a frog into boiling water, it will jump right out. Same thing - two steps forward, one step back is a time tested and proven means of escalation.

But you will inevitably reach a point (or several points, generally at the removal of clothing) where she feels rushed, overwhelmed, or that things are going too fast, so she stops you. At this point, MANY men resort to trying to convince her logically that it’s OK, or even begging, or getting upset or even angry or other weak minded strategies that are bound to kill any attraction.

Freezing her out is simply where you just STOP making out with her. Get up and do something else. I got up and logged into T-Nation and started this thread. You need to make sure that you DON’T come across as being upset, bitter or petulant in any way - you are simply unaffected. This does TWO things: it gives her time to clear her head of all those negative fears and emotions and it shows you that you are a man who has control. If she challenges your behavior, simple tell her in a neutral tone that your “arousal circuitry” is either ON or OFF - you don’t like to just fool around half way, so you’d just as soon go to bed soon, “don’t worry, we can snuggle”. Agree with her that you are probably “moving things too fast”. This will completely disarm her, cuz you are using HER arguments against her (but you’ve already made her horny so she is intellectually at odds with what she’s feeling emotionally).

So guess what? The sky is blue, water is wet and women are emotional creatures. You set up the dynamic so that she is left with really no choice BUT to sleep with you - to satisfy her own emotional needs.

Assuming she isn’t on her period or has some other compelling reason NOT to take her panties off, this works just about every fucking time.
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Or you could drop your pants and let her see your willy. You can then proceed to use the strategy above and you might get faster results because she’ll be thinking about your dick from then on.

Another strategy I’ve heard used (but never tried myself) if she’s resistant is to start massaging her. Start sitting down then get her on her front and massage her back. This is so sensual and should get her primed for sex. It makes sense to me considering how powerful touch can be in instigating emotional drive such as attraction.
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Showing your willy (assuming it’s show worthy) can be a valid strategy. My friend Richard has a horse cock and he would do it all the time - dude never went home alone.

As for the massage angle, it CAN be used, but it set’s up the dynamic that you are there to serve HER or please HER. It’s not the strongest way to lead an interaction, although I’m sure it’s been employed before. The most effective massage IMHO is to massage her cervix with the head of your cock.

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[quote]theuofh wrote:
I did this to an ex and who was in a bad mood and actually did end up falling asleep. I remember her trying to wake me up for sex, but I was out, so I didn’t wake up.

I found out the next morning that she was up all night crying and even called her mom. [/quote]

LMMFAO! As you learned the hard way, this strategy is effective, but requires you to be AWAKE to get the reward later! That’s fucking hilarious.

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]WP wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
So I was just hanging out with Bujo tonight and I just drove home to my new place (which happens to be located strategically near FIVE bars within walking distance and two streets over from University of Lafayette - PRIME real estate) and I picked up a chick outside one of the bars and brought her home. But she doesn’t QUITE want to take the panties off, so I’m employing a super dooper evil strategy called freezing her out. I’ve got her engine going and she’s THOROUGHLY warmed up but she doesn’t want to seem like a slut. So I got up off the bed and decided to let all my T-Mag bros 'n hoes (y’all know who you are!) that I’m about to have sex. This shit works like a charm - I’ve been on my computer for less than five minutes and she’s already telling me to get my ass over there. So gentlemen, duty calls (and by duty I mean… What the fuck was her name again?) Now is not an appropriate time to ask, but I’ll fill in that small detail tomorrow.

BYE GAIS![/quote]

Dude, explain this strategy please.
[/quote]

Sure, it’s a fairly simple strategy really. First we have to understand something about women. You know that feeling that you get when you go to approach a woman for the first time? You get a thousand thoughts running through your head, "what if she has a boyfriend? what if she rejects me? is she going to embarrass me? what will other people think if she shoots me down? etc… All KINDS of shit comes up for all of us at the moment of approach. From virgins to guys with a triple digit number, we ALL experience approach anxiety in one form or another.

Women feel the SAME kind of anxiety right before they sleep with someone for the first time (assuming they are SOBER and shame on you if you take advantage of a woman who isn’t!) They have all kinds of vulnerabilities and emotions come up for them, "am I going to get pregnant? is he going to use a condom? will I catch an STD? is he going to respect me or just kick me out? is he going to tell all my friends I’m a slut? what if my parents find out? etc… All kinds of shit, some logical, some not. This is called Last Minute Resistance.

So when you have a girl in your room and you’re making out with her, a solid escalation is two steps forward, one step back. Women aren’t like light switches, you can’t just turn them on immediately, you have to gradually warm them up - kinda like the boiling the frog analogy, if you gradually increase the heat the frog will allow itself to be boiled, whereas if you drop a frog into boiling water, it will jump right out. Same thing - two steps forward, one step back is a time tested and proven means of escalation.

But you will inevitably reach a point (or several points, generally at the removal of clothing) where she feels rushed, overwhelmed, or that things are going too fast, so she stops you. At this point, MANY men resort to trying to convince her logically that it’s OK, or even begging, or getting upset or even angry or other weak minded strategies that are bound to kill any attraction.

Freezing her out is simply where you just STOP making out with her. Get up and do something else. I got up and logged into T-Nation and started this thread. You need to make sure that you DON’T come across as being upset, bitter or petulant in any way - you are simply unaffected. This does TWO things: it gives her time to clear her head of all those negative fears and emotions and it shows you that you are a man who has control. If she challenges your behavior, simple tell her in a neutral tone that your “arousal circuitry” is either ON or OFF - you don’t like to just fool around half way, so you’d just as soon go to bed soon, “don’t worry, we can snuggle”. Agree with her that you are probably “moving things too fast”. This will completely disarm her, cuz you are using HER arguments against her (but you’ve already made her horny so she is intellectually at odds with what she’s feeling emotionally).

So guess what? The sky is blue, water is wet and women are emotional creatures. You set up the dynamic so that she is left with really no choice BUT to sleep with you - to satisfy her own emotional needs.

Assuming she isn’t on her period or has some other compelling reason NOT to take her panties off, this works just about every fucking time.
[/quote]

that’s pickup knowledge 101, You use lovesystems or Adam Lyons or something?[/quote]

Nah, one of my best friends is a PUA guru. I’ve been a natural since the 80’s before the internet (and before cell phones! FML). So I’ve been exposed to many different systems, people, etc… In fact I used to charge money to take guys out and show them how it’s done (now they call that a bootcamp LOL). So while I find it convenient to use the vernacular because it defines topics and ideas in a short and concise way, I don’t “subscribe to” any particular method in particular. Some of the shit works and some of it doesn’t. Some of the shit I’ve been doing since I was 14 but now some guy wrote a book or did a DVD about it and it’s the “XYZ method” now. I think many PUA’s are douchebags, but there is definitely some gold mixed in there with all the bullshit.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I have a half alive chick in my basement

[/quote]

Not surprised.
[/quote]

How have YOU been, sweety?

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[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

Sure, it’s a fairly simple strategy really. First we have to understand something about women…
[/quote]

Angry Chicken wins the Internehtz with this post.

Seriously, this is golden advice.
[/quote]

So would I have gotten dem panties off, Jen? :wink: LOL

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Yes, but just because I only get to have sex once every 12-18 months.
It would be very fucking stupid of me to pass up the seldom opportunities when finally they present themselves.

WHen ground beef is on sale you fucking buy the ground beef! You don’t just assume it will still be there the next shopping trip !

Stupid sex getting women.

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It’s not always what you say but what you don’t say.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
How have YOU been, sweety?[/quote]

I’m great, thanks.

Good to see you’re still kicking and pumping hard. And still enjoying the sweet pussies nectar :wink:

Looking good in your avi.

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this thread…has taught me much.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I have a half alive chick in my basement

[/quote]

Not surprised.
[/quote]

This is very uncharacteristic. They’re usually not alive at all.