[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]WP wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
So I was just hanging out with Bujo tonight and I just drove home to my new place (which happens to be located strategically near FIVE bars within walking distance and two streets over from University of Lafayette - PRIME real estate) and I picked up a chick outside one of the bars and brought her home. But she doesn’t QUITE want to take the panties off, so I’m employing a super dooper evil strategy called freezing her out. I’ve got her engine going and she’s THOROUGHLY warmed up but she doesn’t want to seem like a slut. So I got up off the bed and decided to let all my T-Mag bros 'n hoes (y’all know who you are!) that I’m about to have sex. This shit works like a charm - I’ve been on my computer for less than five minutes and she’s already telling me to get my ass over there. So gentlemen, duty calls (and by duty I mean… What the fuck was her name again?) Now is not an appropriate time to ask, but I’ll fill in that small detail tomorrow.
BYE GAIS![/quote]
Dude, explain this strategy please.
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Sure, it’s a fairly simple strategy really. First we have to understand something about women. You know that feeling that you get when you go to approach a woman for the first time? You get a thousand thoughts running through your head, "what if she has a boyfriend? what if she rejects me? is she going to embarrass me? what will other people think if she shoots me down? etc… All KINDS of shit comes up for all of us at the moment of approach. From virgins to guys with a triple digit number, we ALL experience approach anxiety in one form or another.
Women feel the SAME kind of anxiety right before they sleep with someone for the first time (assuming they are SOBER and shame on you if you take advantage of a woman who isn’t!) They have all kinds of vulnerabilities and emotions come up for them, "am I going to get pregnant? is he going to use a condom? will I catch an STD? is he going to respect me or just kick me out? is he going to tell all my friends I’m a slut? what if my parents find out? etc… All kinds of shit, some logical, some not. This is called Last Minute Resistance.
So when you have a girl in your room and you’re making out with her, a solid escalation is two steps forward, one step back. Women aren’t like light switches, you can’t just turn them on immediately, you have to gradually warm them up - kinda like the boiling the frog analogy, if you gradually increase the heat the frog will allow itself to be boiled, whereas if you drop a frog into boiling water, it will jump right out. Same thing - two steps forward, one step back is a time tested and proven means of escalation.
But you will inevitably reach a point (or several points, generally at the removal of clothing) where she feels rushed, overwhelmed, or that things are going too fast, so she stops you. At this point, MANY men resort to trying to convince her logically that it’s OK, or even begging, or getting upset or even angry or other weak minded strategies that are bound to kill any attraction.
Freezing her out is simply where you just STOP making out with her. Get up and do something else. I got up and logged into T-Nation and started this thread. You need to make sure that you DON’T come across as being upset, bitter or petulant in any way - you are simply unaffected. This does TWO things: it gives her time to clear her head of all those negative fears and emotions and it shows you that you are a man who has control. If she challenges your behavior, simple tell her in a neutral tone that your “arousal circuitry” is either ON or OFF - you don’t like to just fool around half way, so you’d just as soon go to bed soon, “don’t worry, we can snuggle”. Agree with her that you are probably “moving things too fast”. This will completely disarm her, cuz you are using HER arguments against her (but you’ve already made her horny so she is intellectually at odds with what she’s feeling emotionally).
So guess what? The sky is blue, water is wet and women are emotional creatures. You set up the dynamic so that she is left with really no choice BUT to sleep with you - to satisfy her own emotional needs.
Assuming she isn’t on her period or has some other compelling reason NOT to take her panties off, this works just about every fucking time.
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So what about in the scenario that you’re in a hotel room or in HER bedroom? Rolling over and going to sleep isn’t an option since I might actually fall asleep!
edit: roll over, grab my phone and start playing with it (obviously pretending since you’d have little to do at 4pm in the morning after being in a nightclub, unless you have another potential on the cards)?