[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Oh I also wanted to mention that I don’t “dirty bulk” anymore. I pretty much eat the same thing in the same order everyday and I go to my favorite japanese joint for dinner on the weekend for my cheat meal. Eating clean really does help. Live and learn I guess.[/quote]
FUJI. Mmmmm…
Dear Abby:
Did you drink your daily gallon of milk after a workout or as a meal? I pounded half a gallon yesterday for post workout and I could have probably had more. I feel that would be the proper time for such a meal IMO.
Thanks:
Da Juiceman
[quote]Vestiaz wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Oh I also wanted to mention that I don’t “dirty bulk” anymore. I pretty much eat the same thing in the same order everyday and I go to my favorite japanese joint for dinner on the weekend for my cheat meal. Eating clean really does help. Live and learn I guess.
FUJI. Mmmmm…[/quote]
haha you called it 
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
Dear Abby:
Did you drink your daily gallon of milk after a workout or as a meal? I pounded half a gallon yesterday for post workout and I could have probably had more. I feel that would be the proper time for such a meal IMO.
Thanks:
Da Juiceman[/quote]
lol, I usually had 1/2 gallon post workout and another half gallon before going to bed and then milk with every meal as well. It was a lot.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
jlutz3 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
I figured I’d do a quick update since this has been placed in the sticky thread. I’ve changed a couple things that have really made my progress increase drastically.
Well first off I’m about 280-282 right now and lost a little bodyfat, so I look much different now, I’ll work on some pics by tomorrow if I can. (at least I think I look different lol)
Couple things I have changed…
I have increased frequency and decreased volume. So instead of training each bodypart once a week with lots of sets I now train each one twice a week with about a 25% reduction in volume. This literally made my strength and muscle gains explode.
I went from a high carb, low fat diet to the exact opposite. Now the only time I have carbs is with breakfast, pre, peri and post workout. This has allowed me to reduce bodyfat and at the same time better my insulin resistance. Now, whenever I eat carbs it triggers a more anabolic response and I am not so desensitized as I was when eating loads of carbs.
I mentioned pre/peri/post workout nutrition in the above point and for the past few months I have spent special attention on that. In the past I didn’t really pay attention to pre workout nutrition and I did no peri workout nutrition whatsoever. All I really knew about was post workout. Now I make sure I have about 50g simple carbs, 75g whey, 5g leucine and 5g creatine pre workout. During the workout I sip on 25g carbs 25g protein 5g leucine, and post I have 60g carbs 100g protein 5g leucine and 5g creatine. I believe this has allowed me to grow very quickly.
That should pretty much cover everything, any questions lemme know.
for your post workout…is that a shake you’re taking? if so, what’s in it? thanks Way.
The protein is whey and the carb is waxy maize.[/quote]
I assume your pre and peri workout is the same- just different ratios, and then you add leucine and creatine seperately? Why did you add the creatine? Thought you said it was doing nothing for you. With the increased insulin spike you are seeing results?
Good thread man. Very informative. Keep up the good work.
Pre/peri/post workout all use the same ingredients, and yes different ratios. WMS, whey, creatine and leucine. I just put it all in a shaker bottle and I’m good to go.
Hah, the only reason I’m using creatine is because my buddy had a big tub of it that he wasn’t going to use because it “hurt his kidneys” I didn’t argue and took the tub lol. I’m still not sure of its effectiveness, at least for me, but if it’s free I’ll use it.
[quote]SquatDeep385 wrote:
How do you manage to keep progressing on your bench and incline when your doing sets of like 1-3 reps mostly? I’ve never been able to progress with such low reps, do you think the forced reps you do help?[/quote]
I don’t really have much trouble. I usually get an extra rep or go up 5 lbs every session. I think forced reps help but mainly it’s diet/nutrition.
[quote]laujik wrote:
So now that you have switched to more freq, what does your split look like? I have been thinking about incorporating more frequency rather than a ton of volume.
Glad to see you are still progressing so fast at 280. You’re a monster and thanks for the great insight on some things that I have been questioning myself the last few months.[/quote]
Hey sorry I skipped this, I listed the split in an answer to an earlier question if you just want to scroll up.
Thanks man, doing my best. Best of luck and glad to help!
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
Where do you carbs come from for the Peri workout shakes? just curious[/quote]
pre/peri/post carbs are all from waxy maize.
Way, whats your waistline at now that your 280+?
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Way, whats your waistline at now that your 280+?[/quote]
36, I actually weighed in at 284.6 today
Good deal, nice to see you progressing so well. You feel pretty good about your call me out thread in the Alpha? Only 5 more pounds to 290 and 4 weeks to go.
Damn, from your Avatar and your posts I always had you pegged as an older dude (muscle density and lighting, maybe? Take it as a compliment!). Well done.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
Way, whats your waistline at now that your 280+?
36, I actually weighed in at 284.6 today
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nice almost closer to 290 than 280 lol. 36 sounds somewhat big on a normal guy but on a 6’2 guy at almost 285lb. I’m sure that’s somewhat dwarfed by big legs and wide shoulders. Looking forward to seeing some progress pics
[quote]Chidey wrote:
Good deal, nice to see you progressing so well. You feel pretty good about your call me out thread in the Alpha? Only 5 more pounds to 290 and 4 weeks to go.
Damn, from your Avatar and your posts I always had you pegged as an older dude (muscle density and lighting, maybe? Take it as a compliment!). Well done.[/quote]
I actually have until the end of September, so almost 8 weeks I’m aiming for 300 by then now, 290 will be a little to easy 
Thanks brother.
Damn, man! You will hit that 300, no doubt. Aim high, like they say. I’d hang out on the over 35 forum, but they all seem to worry about low T (nothing wrong with that, mind you-but I’m not ready to be put out to pasture just yet). I’m just trying to put on the size that I can while I can as quick as I can. Thanks for sharing your experiences!
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
Way, whats your waistline at now that your 280+?
36, I actually weighed in at 284.6 today
nice almost closer to 290 than 280 lol. 36 sounds somewhat big on a normal guy but on a 6’2 guy at almost 285lb. I’m sure that’s somewhat dwarfed by big legs and wide shoulders. Looking forward to seeing some progress pics[/quote]
Well consider this. In my pics earlier in this thread at 268 my waist was 35 inches. Now, I have added nearly 20 lbs of overall mass and my waist has only increased by 1 inch.
I see your profile says your at 15%, how do you measure this?
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
Way, whats your waistline at now that your 280+?
36, I actually weighed in at 284.6 today
nice almost closer to 290 than 280 lol. 36 sounds somewhat big on a normal guy but on a 6’2 guy at almost 285lb. I’m sure that’s somewhat dwarfed by big legs and wide shoulders. Looking forward to seeing some progress pics
Well consider this. In my pics earlier in this thread at 268 my waist was 35 inches. Now, I have added nearly 20 lbs of overall mass and my waist has only increased by 1 inch.
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Yea man that’s solid progress for sure…it usually ends up being an inch for every 5-10lb for me 
lol
[quote]Needmassquick wrote:
I see your profile says your at 15%, how do you measure this? [/quote]
Haven’t, it’s an estimation. Still can see 6 abs when flexing, even though they are faint, muscles still have lines but they are somewhat blurry.
I took a couple teaser progress pics for you guys. I’ll take many more either when I hit 300 or it’s time for my call out, whichever happens first.
Just took 2 quick ones, RLS and MM. Morning weight is 280 and carbed up is 284.