POSSIBLE SPOILER IF YOU AREN"T CAUGHT UP ON THE SHOW
couple of things:
I knew that the little kid was gonna come out all zombified. that was great. I was hoping the mom would run to her and get bit/shot too… but we aren’t that lucky.
The interaction between Rick and Dale kind of affirmed what 460 was saying… Old man isn’t scared of shane (seems to be scared of losing his “humanity” in these trying times)
Shane is tight. He went full on dark side but you cant really hate/fault him for it. He’s like the bad guy that you still like.
How many people are originals on the farm? 3? 4? The girl, the old man, the boy (zombie wrangler) and the older woman? Shane’s group could EASILY take them out and take over the farm if they wanted.
That episode was awesome. February cant come fast enough lol
[quote]overstand wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks its funny how we have one black guy and one asian guy? It’s like the writers wrote the story, then realized the cast looked like some postcard for the aryan super race, and threw in a black guy and an asian guy. Then they realized that was too obvious, so they threw in a redneck white trash guy to throw us off their trail.[/quote]
HAHAHAHAH, Well it was Atlanta. But they are on the road so that will change soon.
[quote]gregron wrote: POSSIBLE SPOILER IF YOU AREN"T CAUGHT UP ON THE SHOW
couple of things:
I knew that the little kid was gonna come out all zombified. that was great. I was hoping the mom would run to her and get bit/shot too… but we aren’t that lucky.
The interaction between Rick and Dale kind of affirmed what 460 was saying… Old man isn’t scared of shane (seems to be scared of losing his “humanity” in these trying times)
Shane is tight. He went full on dark side but you cant really hate/fault him for it. He’s like the bad guy that you still like.
How many people are originals on the farm? 3? 4? The girl, the old man, the boy (zombie wrangler) and the older woman? Shane’s group could EASILY take them out and take over the farm if they wanted.
That episode was awesome. February cant come fast enough lol[/quote]
This is the funny part. They are not even close to being in the real Shit yet. This whole season has been a VACATION for them. Its all about to get real.
On the show, he is not exactly the kind of guy I would march on hell with, and considering The Walking Dead is pretty much hell on earth that is a reasonable standard to hold to.
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He earned his spurs on the Vatos story as far as I’m concerned. People consider it a poor episode but it showcased his ability as a leader. He saved his own and didn’t have to kill anybody else.[/quote]
That is a good point, and that episode was bad.
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Shane is a loose cannon and a murderer. Dale should have shot him. His “smart” choices are not smart. Hershel seemed willing to let them stay if they played by his rules. Now they’ll find themselves exiled having to scavenge for supplies trying to find somewhere safe to be. Back to square one.
Makes for a more interesting story and I’d like to see them find out what happened to the rest of the world. But when the problem of safety is minimized (walkers in the barn are a non-issue, they’ve been in there for months), I wouldn’t call Shane’s choices smart.[/quote]
How are walkers in the barn a non issue? Dude the walkers in the barn are the reason why the girl turned into a walker. Not to mention all walkers should be killed sooooo they have less chance of turning regular people into walkers. Shane might come off like a dick and loose cannon but he actually makes good points. Ricks a pussy, and anyone that thinks having a child in that world should be castrated
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Bunch of Shanes in this thread. I’d much rather stay alive with Rick then become a savage and get shot by Shane.[/quote]
Exactly - Shane’s only loyal as long as you can provide him a service, once you are no longer of use to him or you have something he wants, kiss your ass goodbye.
There is no society to him, it’s take what you want when you want it, fuck everyone else. Sociopath is the clinical term I believe.
On the show, he is not exactly the kind of guy I would march on hell with, and considering The Walking Dead is pretty much hell on earth that is a reasonable standard to hold to.
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He earned his spurs on the Vatos story as far as I’m concerned. People consider it a poor episode but it showcased his ability as a leader. He saved his own and didn’t have to kill anybody else.[/quote]
True but how many people died in the camp while 4 men were out looking for one guy and guns.
That is a good point, and that episode was bad.
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On the show, he is not exactly the kind of guy I would march on hell with, and considering The Walking Dead is pretty much hell on earth that is a reasonable standard to hold to.
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He earned his spurs on the Vatos story as far as I’m concerned. People consider it a poor episode but it showcased his ability as a leader. He saved his own and didn’t have to kill anybody else.[/quote]
True but how many people died in the camp while 4 men were out looking for one guy and guns.
That is a good point, and that episode was bad.
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I guess I’m in the unhappy minority then.[/quote]
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OK, I’ll bite. Without “The Pussy” the group would be dead by now. “The Pussy” is the only character with the foresight and balls to forge alliances with other groups. If they ever cross paths with the Vatos again, they have allies and have shown them that not everyone they meet is an enemy.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Bunch of Shanes in this thread. I’d much rather stay alive with Rick then become a savage and get shot by Shane.[/quote]
The truth right here, Rick is the man. Shane is capable and skilled no doubt, but that’s all he is. He is a tool to be used, he is not capable of leading the group.
On the show, he is not exactly the kind of guy I would march on hell with, and considering The Walking Dead is pretty much hell on earth that is a reasonable standard to hold to.
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He earned his spurs on the Vatos story as far as I’m concerned. People consider it a poor episode but it showcased his ability as a leader. He saved his own and didn’t have to kill anybody else.[/quote]
True but how many people died in the camp while 4 men were out looking for one guy and guns.
That is a good point, and that episode was bad.
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I guess I’m in the unhappy minority then.[/quote]
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OK, I’ll bite. Without “The Pussy” the group would be dead by now. “The Pussy” is the only character with the foresight and balls to forge alliances with other groups. If they ever cross paths with the Vatos again, they have allies and have shown them that not everyone they meet is an enemy.
[quote]Dijon wrote:
Hershel seemed willing to let them stay if they played by his rules. Now they’ll find themselves exiled having to scavenge for supplies trying to find somewhere safe to be. Back to square one.
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How exactly is he going to MAKE them leave? For that matter, how did he expect to enforce his “rules”? With a harsh gaze and some choice words? He can’t MAKE them do anything. He’s an old man that lacks the fortitude and firepower to back up his words.
Rick and Shane’s group can stay as long as they want, or until they figure out that they can just take the fucking farm from Hershel. Then it will become THEIR farm.[/quote]
x2, and there is no way I’d leave that farm. Period.
[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
How are walkers in the barn a non issue? Dude the walkers in the barn are the reason why the girl turned into a walker. Not to mention all walkers should be killed sooooo they have less chance of turning regular people into walkers.[/quote]
I mean the specific instance of walkers-in-the-barn. Not walkers in general. They didn’t get out without Shane’s help. So they used a bunch of ammunition, made a bunch of noise to kill a bunch of walkers that couldn’t do anything, and pissed off the guy that saved Carl’s life and fixed up Daryl.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Bunch of Shanes in this thread. I’d much rather stay alive with Rick then become a savage and get shot by Shane.[/quote]
The truth right here, Rick is the man. Shane is capable and skilled no doubt, but that’s all he is. He is a tool to be used, he is not capable of leading the group.[/quote]
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Bunch of Shanes in this thread. I’d much rather stay alive with Rick then become a savage and get shot by Shane.[/quote]
If Rick wants to leave the farm, or acquiesces to Hershel’s demands and leaves, then he is going to get people killed. That is not good leadership.
Obviously I know this has to happen for the show to continue to be exciting (or resume being; this season has been very slow), otherwise there would be next to no drama. Just because it’s going to happen doesn’t mean it’s the right choice.
[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
How are walkers in the barn a non issue? Dude the walkers in the barn are the reason why the girl turned into a walker. Not to mention all walkers should be killed sooooo they have less chance of turning regular people into walkers.[/quote]
I mean the specific instance of walkers-in-the-barn. Not walkers in general. They didn’t get out without Shane’s help. So they used a bunch of ammunition, made a bunch of noise to kill a bunch of walkers that couldn’t do anything, and pissed off the guy that saved Carl’s life and fixed up Daryl.[/quote]
BINGO
What exactly did shooting up the Barn do? Rick would have noticed the girl in the Barn working with Herchal.
And Glen was winning over the old guys kid over and she was starting to make the old guy listen.
So now they killed a dozen Zombies Made a bunch of Noise and am I the only one wondering how they can afford to waste all that ammo??
[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
How are walkers in the barn a non issue? Dude the walkers in the barn are the reason why the girl turned into a walker. Not to mention all walkers should be killed sooooo they have less chance of turning regular people into walkers.[/quote]
I mean the specific instance of walkers-in-the-barn. Not walkers in general. They didn’t get out without Shane’s help. So they used a bunch of ammunition, made a bunch of noise to kill a bunch of walkers that couldn’t do anything, and pissed off the guy that saved Carl’s life and fixed up Daryl.[/quote]
BINGO
What exactly did shooting up the Barn do? Rick would have noticed the girl in the Barn working with Herchal.
And Glen was winning over the old guys kid over and she was starting to make the old guy listen.
So now they killed a dozen Zombies Made a bunch of Noise and am I the only one wondering how they can afford to waste all that ammo??[/quote]
I want to state that I really like this show. I look forward to it. I like it enough to type about it on-line.
The writing staff is struggling. They had budget cuts to fund Mad Men.
Nothing will come of the noise. Nothing. Because even though in season one gunshots attracted walkers, now they can practice shooting and shoot zombies with impunity.
[quote]four60 wrote:
am I the only one wondering how they can afford to waste all that ammo??[/quote]
No, you are not. Unfortunately none of the writers are wondering about it. They have stopped scrounging for weapons all together. The group has somehow gotten more violent/hardened but the same group that will go back into Atlanta for a fucking bag of shotguns and deer rifles waltzed past all the M4’s outside the CDC, voluntarily disarms, and has Lori going for the de-facto chair of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
How are walkers in the barn a non issue? Dude the walkers in the barn are the reason why the girl turned into a walker. Not to mention all walkers should be killed sooooo they have less chance of turning regular people into walkers.[/quote]
I mean the specific instance of walkers-in-the-barn. Not walkers in general. They didn’t get out without Shane’s help. So they used a bunch of ammunition, made a bunch of noise to kill a bunch of walkers that couldn’t do anything, and pissed off the guy that saved Carl’s life and fixed up Daryl.[/quote]
BINGO
What exactly did shooting up the Barn do? Rick would have noticed the girl in the Barn working with Herchal.
And Glen was winning over the old guys kid over and she was starting to make the old guy listen.
So now they killed a dozen Zombies Made a bunch of Noise and am I the only one wondering how they can afford to waste all that ammo??[/quote]
I want to state that I really like this show. I look forward to it. I like it enough to type about it on-line.
The writing staff is struggling. They had budget cuts to fund Mad Men.
Nothing will come of the noise. Nothing. Because even though in season one gunshots attracted walkers, now they can practice shooting and shoot zombies with impunity.
[quote]four60 wrote:
am I the only one wondering how they can afford to waste all that ammo??[/quote]
No, you are not. Unfortunately none of the writers are wondering about it. They have stopped scrounging for weapons all together. The group has somehow gotten more violent/hardened but the same group that will go back into Atlanta for a fucking bag of shotguns and deer rifles waltzed past all the M4’s outside the CDC, voluntarily disarms, and has Lori going for the de-facto chair of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Yeah, plus the issue with Rick’s big dick revolver. I remembered that in Season 1 Shane hooked him up with 3 or 4 rounds and he’s been gladly running around capping walkers with his magical .357 bullet factory, even lent it to Otis for some gratuitous zombie killing.
Also, several hand guns magically appeared like the additional Glocks and Beretta. They only had this one sports bag of guns/ammo so where does all the plentiful handgun ammo come from? Surely not from “no gunz on this farm”-Hershey…