The Stupid Thread 2 (Part 2)

We have been through this one before. TikTok is a means for the CCP to spy (they actively mine users that may work on DoD contracts among other things).

DoD and DoD contractor employees have been asked not to download it.

I am for free speech but also for national defense. No reason one can’t use YouTube or IG to make the same content. TikTok’s time suck algorithm is just better designed to keep people roped in. The fact so many are up in arms about it shows just how badly the population is addicted to it.

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That’s different, as government employees should expect to have their comms devices heavily regulated. That’s nothing to do with free speech or censorship.

As to the rest of the population, Google and Facebook are a bunch of spying cunts also. I would like to see robust privacy protections for consumers, but of course most idiots would check the box and sign their rights away, but that’s up to them.

Yeah, no. Government contractor =/= govt employee.

Yes, but that data is not exported to the CCP. There’s a difference.

China has released actual statements detailing their plans to become the dominant world force. Lets not act like the two are the same.

Disagree about government contractors. Who’s paying their checks? Right, Uncle Sam, so Uncle Sam gets to set a few terms.

China is asshoe, but I see no reason to believe that Google and Facebook aren’t a bunch of scumbags as well.

Stupid Thread indeed.

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How so, exactly? You think the government should have no say whatsoever in what contractors who could be exposed to sensitive information have on their phone? I imagine even tracking location could be sensitive data, in some lines of work. Others would seem to be completely irrelevant. I would expect some common sense, but when it comes to spying I would err on the side of caution.

I have heard people advocate for banning TikTok from the states entirely. Big tech wants this because TikTok is killing it with the target demographic, and gobbling up the ad revenue they think is rightfully theirs. But now I’m repeating myself.

Exactly the point where you said that Govt Contractors are Govt Employees.

You’re poorly informed on this subject, and I can’t tell if you:
A) know it and proceed to talk anyways or
B) don’t know you’re ignorant on the subject, yet continue talking as if you knew what you were saying.

So I guess you’re either arrogant, or ignorant. Either way, Stupid Thread held up.

Right back at you.

I am aware that the government employs a great many contractors. I have friends who design “stuff” for nuclear submarines. They can’t say more than that, which is fine. It is a private company. Quite a few people in my area work for there. The background check is a bitch, security clearance takes a year, but it is the best paying machine shop in my region. Young guys with highschool diplomas and 2 years of technical college have their mortgages paid by their mid 30s if they have any sense at all. All of their money comes from government contracts. So yes, Uncle Sam is literally paying their bills.

I’ve never asked any of them, but I hope to god the government bans them from having known CCP spyware on their phones. It would be idiotic for them not to.

The contractor who stocks the snack machines at the visitor’s center at Yellowstone National Park? Yeah, not worried about him so much.

But please, keep holding up your stupid thread.

I would hope so too, because I’ve seen enough of these morons posting pics and tic-tocs of their welds and assemblies on some sensitive equipment to facebook.

Now, I know that they’ve been told in detail why and how thats wrong and what happens when one does because I was too once.

But there they are. Doing it anyways. :man_shrugging:t2:

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I don’t even have any social media, but I still love TikTok because of all the dumb stuff I’ve seen on it via YouTube or my friends’ phones. So I vote to keep it for the stupid reason alone haha.

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Explain the differences between

Facebook, twitter, instagram, tiktok

could not all of these be used for spying

They are all used for phishing attempts but only TikTok directly feeds information to the CCP.

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just watching tiktok or subscribing to tiktok

if you download the app they track all keystrokes and much more even across all other apps.

Basically, they know everything you do.

I am not naive enough to think the other apps don’t track as well, but I guess if i have to choose, I pick against CCP.

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Not disagreeing with you there about CCP

if tiktok is on the videos section in facebook, then does that feed information to CCP

And what does the CCP do with the information…i guess i am asking how the CCP will use that information against us on a personal level…i understand the spams, cyber attacks and all that

I don’t know. I guess it depends if it is cross linked or re uploaded from a download to a phone.

I am guessing a bit here based on what I have been told from cyber security folks: CCP is looking to exploit weaknesses in American culture and promote things that weaken America. That’s why things like fat acceptance and extra woke are pushed so heavily on there. In CCP eyes these kinds of things will destroy America from the inside out (they might not be wrong there). The algorithm promotes different things on the Chinese version of the app. Specifically stuff that would bolster Chinese cultural strength and nationalism.

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Understandable

and we are being destroyed from within

I said:

you said:

So are you saying you think government contractors are government employees, or are you playing semantics to change your point to a more correct one?

Worth a watch.