I think anyone of any group can be violent. No group has a monopoly on violence.
Governments come close and achieve it in some places, but I digress.
There is a couple of varieties that split when Buddhism was brought to places like Japan, China and Tibet but the basic tenant of improving oneâs position in samsara (the cycle of rebirth) is the direct result of oneâs âgoodâ actions. Violence of any type is typically considered a bad karmic action (which is why a lot of Buddhist monks are vegetarian)
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This is proving to be a slow day at work, so against my better judgement I guess Iâll enter the fray here.
What chromosomes would you say a man has?
What would you say makes the male and female genders exempt from being social constructs?
The idea of transgenderism inherently contradicts the idea of gender as a social construct. If gender is a construct, then the only thing that makes me male is my genitalia. And if the only thing that makes me male is my genitalia, then itâs impossible for me to have male genitalia and not be male, or vice versa.
If my daughter were to come to me and say that she likes sports, fast cars, lifting weights, wearing pants, eating steak, or whatever other stereotypically male things, I wouldnât say that she is a boy or man. I would say that she is a girl or woman who likes some things that are not common for her gender. And the same is true if my son likes the color pink, playing with dolls, or even wearing dresses. None of those things stop him from being a boy.
In other words, I donât understand what it means for a boy to feel like a girl or vice versa. If you are a boy, then however you feel is how a boy can feel.
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Accepted biology has male chromosomes as XY. Female as XX.
Now, I know there are rare outliers that have some other combination, but that is not the norm and is extremely rare.
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âI donât know, Iâm not a biologistâ - Ketanji Brown Jackson
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I am not either, but I do have a Bio-chem undergrad degree.
It is interesting that with abortion all of a sudden they can define what a woman is.
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I actually found it to be a remarkably telling answer.
âI donât know what a woman is, consult a biologistâ effectively means that a biologist will tell you âa woman is someone who has the XX chromosomesâ.
So she and I agree actually.
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The outliers are about as common as transgender people (both are ~0.5% of the population). Iâd argue that the XY/XX â> male/female heuristic is equally inapplicable for either group.
I donât see the logic behind arguing that the logic canât be applied to one group of rare outliers, but can be applied to another group of rare outliers.
I wasnât going to take the bait, but fine.
100 years after youâve been dead and rotting in the ground, an archaeologist can dig up your bones, test your DNA and find out that you were a male.
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The numbers I have seen are closer to .001% of the population (usually around 1 out of 1000) and those with these disorders of XXYY, XYY, etc all have pretty awful health issues and poor health. I wouldnât exactly consider that normal or qualifying from a purely scientific standpoint.
Whether or not you actually believe this is up to you, but Iâm not trying to bait anything. For what itâs worth, I read your log and enjoy it. Makes me wish I had a prowler to work with, haha.
Worth noting that I used the word gender in my post, which a scientist would not be able to identify from DNA.
Essentially: Whatâs in your DNA is obviously not a social construct, but the way we collectively choose to react to it is.
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Actually, it looks like youâre right on the number - sorry. I used the percentage of people with intersex traits, not intersex genetics
Not saying that theyâre normal or healthy. Just wondering how we can unambiguously say that someone with Kliefelters, for example, is male without having an XY genotype.
If we acknowledge that exceptions like this exist, itâs not necessarily a huge leap to conclude that thereâs room for more nuance than male=XY
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Glad to hear!
So this is where we likely arenât going to agree. I donât believe there is a difference between gender and sex; or at least that there shouldnât be. A male can identify as a female and follow my 5 year old daughter into the restroom, and Iâm supposed to just be okay with that⊠Iâm not. I know this isnât the majority of cases, but it has happened.
Itâs fine if we disagree here, but I wonât be budging on my opinions so I wouldnât waste your time in attempting to do so.
âPeople can pretend to be whatever they want to be; but to what extend must I be required to participate in your self image?â - Dave Chapelle (paraphrased)
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I would agree, but that nuance does not extend to XX was my point.
This is where I stand too. I donât wish them any harm and hope they can find happiness, but I donât have to partake in their fantasies of self.
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Yeah, I sort of had a feeling that that would become the sticking point here.
I guess the one question Iâd like to pose - more out of curiosity than anything else - would be what you think of societies that have had more/different gender roles than ours.
Obviously, all humans have the same general set of sex genotypes. So, if a society decides to have 3+ gender roles, how would this reconcile with your logic that sex and gender are the same?
Hereâs a link in case youâre not familiar, although I get the sense youâre not a fan of PBS