The Stupid Thread 2 (Part 1)

I think you agreed with me recently about affirmative action being a form of systemic racism. IIRC, you think it is flawed, and should be reformed to help based on need, not race.

Boy, someone doesn’t like it when stupid, entirely one-sided policy is highlighted.

Of course, this is the stupid thread where stupid policy gets highlighted and stupid people come along to be upset by that.

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That we can agree on.

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It is, but that’s a dishonest comparison. Nobody is talking about affirmative action when they use the words ā€œsystemic racismā€.

Affirmative action is a minor, fringe issue compared to the one sided war on cops.

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Admittedly, I was trolling you here a bit.

I’ll tell you one thing though since this is the stupid thread. There was a reddit poll in which the question was ā€œdoes racism exist towards white peopleā€. Now reddit is pretty damn left, but I was surprised that the poll was about 10:1 saying yes.

I scroll down though comments and see someone saying that yes it is possible, but affirmative action is not one of the sources. I say something like how is something that advantages or disadvantages a person only based on race not racist. I got down voted like crazy on that one.

The anti cop stupidity is everywhere, even close to home on one of the safest campuses you’ll find anywhere.

Read the article and notice the absence of any clear use of force policy or guidelines. Note the 25 year employee getting fired for a tackle.

Note the abundance of vague, self righteous narratives from the students who fancy themselves civil rights leaders. None of it means anything precise, because it is just fictional stories people are telling themselves.

The campus administration goes on to explain that the campus security can carry handcuffs, but only because they do occasionally get called to deal with violent people.

In other words, security is still expected to respond to campus violence but we don’t want any weapons used. Not even batons, because racism somehow.

Additionally, you will be fired if you grapple a student with your bare hands, even if you’ve been a campus security officer for 25 years.

Good riddance to that racist monster, I’m sure.

I can speak from experience that Bates college students do, in fact, occasionally get drunk and act like violent twats. Luckily their campus administration has no sway over bar policy or local laws.

I hope the next security guard they manage to hire has telekinesis. That seems to be how they expect violent behavior to be responded to.

If I ever pick up a bouncing shift again and a Bates college student is getting his ass beat, I will just follow the student activists’ example.

Instead of tackling the assailant and using force to end the fight, I’m just going to re-imagine the situation in front of me. Doing so should, according to the activists, address the foundational issue of student security in a way that doesn’t marginalize people of color.

Afterwards I’ll call an ambulance and have the bar-back clean up any blood and broken glass, oppressing no one in the process.

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Basically security officer 1 caught a freshman with holding a beer (but not drunk). He then ordered the student to produce ID. The student ran out of the room to some stairs where officer 1 tackled him and spent a few minutes grappling with him to restrain him before cuffing him. The student sustained minor injuries to his wrist and neck. The security officer violated 3 of the colleges policies during the incident according to the investigation.

Also, there is this:

In the immediate aftermath of this incident, the college learned that Officer 1 had been recorded earlier this winter making statements to students suggesting that he and other members of the Campus Safety staff enforced college rules differently based on the race of the students.

Right. Campus administration sent campus security to enforce the rules the administration makes, then fired the guy for doing that in a way that hurt nobody but didn’t satisfy their imaginations and feelings.

I’m not saying he’s perfect and makes no mistakes, but I will bet that whoever is replacing that 25 year employee will be comparatively worse at the job.

I’m also not signing up to be a Bates college security officer, even though I’d be a top tier candidate. I wouldn’t encourage any capable person I know to sign up for that job. Let me put you in touch with some good paying manufacturers I know who need good people instead…

It would be no different than my old boss expecting me to remove drunks from the bar in a way that’s immune to after the fact criticism from people who have never known violence.

Like Bates college freshmen and administrators.

No thanks, the job ain’t for me anymore. Get someone who believes in that nonsense to do it.

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whoa, whoa, whoa … we’re teaching math to women now?? The slow death of culture

In a general sense I’m 100% behind this. I grew up my whole life hearing things that I didn’t want to, having to do things I didn’t want to do, and dealing with being ā€œupsetā€. It made me a better person, and I think it’s about time a lot of these people experience the same.

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Useless politicians pass stupid laws, sending useful cops to enforce them and then act like they have nothing to do with outcomes like Eric Garner.

Then they act like they can fix it with nonsense policies and nonsense words like ā€œre-imaginingā€ policing.

When cigarettes are outlawed only outlaws will have cigarettes.

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From the article.

ā€œThe most difficult event for both male and female soldiers is the two-mile run, with 5% and 22% failing, respectively. The run must be completed within 21 minutes.ā€

I don’t think the Army is being too demanding here. This should be able to be done by almost anyone who isn’t morbidly obese with a week or so of training.

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Do they have historical data on pas/fail rates on similar military fitness tests? Obviously the tests change but it would be interesting to compare similar tests over the decades and see if folks are more or less in shape than previous generations, which generation was the fittest, etc.

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I’m just glad they didn’t post the air force numbers.

iirc those were the 2 mile standards when I was in (this year would’ve been my 20th) and I’m pretty sure the male fail rate was worse than 1 in 20 … it was probably more around 1 in 10

It was pretty abysmal

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Exceptions exist, but not being able to run two 10:30 miles when your job depends on it strikes me as laziness / not caring about passing.

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Run? You could almost do that walking.

I was thinking a good speed walker could probably do a 10:30 minute mile.