The thing to do would be remove anyone being held against his will at this time, then prevent those that remain from leaving their zone.
Donāt be so upset. Just because the statue has been boarded up, we havenāt forgotten the lesson that was scribbled on it: āWas a Racistā. If youāre actually upset, just see that message scribbled across your chest when you look at yourself in the mirror.
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I saw an interview with Sadiq Khan and he not only said the statue should remain but that Churchill was a great prime minister. The interviewer kept bringing up things Churchill said and did and he told her he already learned that in school.
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Mayor is a she. And the overwhelming majority of folks who live or work in the CHAZ are on board. It was apparent this was the case and if the cops didnāt leave things would have escalated even further. They feel safer without the cops than with them. The level of crime has not increased. No one is being held hostage. Everyone is free to move about unimpeded. My fiance just got back from the 60k person BLM march and stopped by her friendās place 2 blocks from the CHAZ. Apparently its pretty normal in the area and news stories are very much exaggerated.
You are being bothered by people not being bothered (well I bet the SPD is pretty bothered by it). Save the outrage
They have to have something up by Sunday.
So they voted on it, then?
Iām not arguing it is legal, or even right. Personally I think itās some angsty young people living out a rebellious fantasy.
But, like I said, you are getting bothered about something that isnāt bothering the people actually affected right now. That could change though.
That is NOT fucking acceptable. Also points for Khan on his interview response.
I wonder what Jonathan Pie has to say about this travesty of orcs running amok.
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Iām not buying the assertion that itās not bothering the people affected by it. If you lived there, and you knew that the police were not coming, would you voice your displeasure? If you had a small business there, surrounded by āangstyā young people, the type who have been looting and torching small businesses, often minority owned businesses across the country, would you be vocal in your opposition to this occupation?
Iām not buying it.
What are the slogans of these angsty young wipper snappers? Silence is āviolenceā and speech is definitely āviolenceā these days and itās perfectly justifiable to meet āviolenceā with VIOLENCE. So what option is left? Say the thing we tell you to say? On your knees?
Na, they can go fuck themselves.
Is it really so hard to believe that the folks who choose to live and work in the most liberal part of the most liberal neighborhood of one of the most liberal cities in America might think and feel differently than you about this whole thing?
You are repeating a (so far) false narrative about who is there, what is actually happening there, and how the locals feel about it.
What false narrative am I repeating?
Are the police responding to calls in that neighborhood? Did the citizens affected vote on this? Would they be safe voicing their opposition to what is happening in the street?
I donāt care which ānarrativeā you want to sell, the answer to all of the above is no, and that is not ok.
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Hereās an old Soviet joke that seems pertinent:
A wizened old man - a veteran of a failed liberal revolution five decades earlier - is watching a group of Bolsheviks march through the street during the October Revolution.
āWhat are you fighting for?ā he asks them. āThat no one will be rich anymore!ā answers a chorus of voices. "Thatās odd" the old man says āwhen we were rebelling, our goal was that no one will be poor!ā
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I respectfully disagree. When you seize territory, erect a āborder wallā, establish armed guards, and check for ID, then you have indeed created a checkpoint. The flash point is going to be when an individual, says āfuck you on the ID checkā or fuck you, I am walking down this street. What then?
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We find out if soy rage is a real thing.
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So you respectfully disagree with what the folks living there are telling me? None of that is happening now. No ID checks no armed guards (youāre thinking about the very first night). The āborder wallā is a removable barrier blocking the street only. My fiance walked through there yesterday. Some of my staff live right there. Respectfully, iāl trust what they are saying over you living a few thousand miles away who has no prior knowledge of the area or residents.
Things could change, but right now and for the past couple days, it is not at all like you seem to be imagining.
You are right though, the flash point could come if armed proud Boys come and try to cause problems.
Or the city tells them they need to clean up the mess they made and they have flashbacks to their fascist parents.
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Theyāll do it laterrrrr! Gosh!
Is it me, or does autonomous zone sound like a I donāt want to work zone? Itās like government housing for suburban white kids.
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They canāt work. Weāre still not out of phase 1. Lotsa time on their hands.
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